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You have to hold the button in for three seconds if you want to factory reset it...

I installed a KeypadLinc Countdown Timer on a bathroom fan today and added it to the ISY. It appears as all 8 buttons: addr.1, addr.B, addr.C, addr.D, addr.E, addr.F, addr.G, addr.H Only addr.1 has any settings associated with it and can be controlled. As far as I can tell it doesn't matter which timer button happens to be pressed, the device status for every button is either on or off. That is, if I push the 5min button, ALL buttons addr.1 thru addr.H show on. My question is what is the value of showing all 8 buttons, other then cluttering up the list of devices?

The switch goes off when I pull out the tab. I should also add that it linked with the ISY fine and seems to work just fine. I am just not sure if it factory reset or not since it didn't follow the wiki behavior.... Tome

I installed a new Switchlinc and wanted to factory reset it. So, I went to the Wiki which says: http://wiki.smarthome.com/index.php?title=Resetting_SwitchLinc_to_Its_Factory_Default_Settings I don't know if this is out of date, or if I am doing something wrong but this is not the behavior I get. I pull out the tab and wait 10s (or more). I push the tab all the way in and hold for three seconds (it beeps within a second or so) The light does NOT come on after a few second. Yes, I am sure I am holding the little tab all the way in. And yes I am sure I am pulling the tab all the way out. My Switchlinc has 2476S V5.2 0926 written on it, and it shows as Switchlinc Relay W/ Sense v.37 at the top of the ISY screen. I have tried the above procedure more then a dozen times without any change. I have also tried holding the button in longer, and holding in a shorter amount of time. The switch goes to the off state, NOT the on state. If I hold it too long I get the blinking LEDs which is linking mode.

Got it, thanks. Though, in my case there weren't any statements in the Else clause, so nothing would happen, so I guess it was redundant for the way I had it written. For your method below, it is needed though... Ok, I cleaned up per your example, but it was still happening. What I had to do to fix it was to put a Wait 1 in the Indication program (not the control program). I guess what was happening is that the Indication program was triggering a moment before the control program had finished (or something like that)... So now I have two programs, the indication program: If Status 'DiningXmas' is not off Or Status 'LivingRoomXmas' is not off Then Wait 1 Set Scene 'HolidayButtonCStatus' On Else Wait 1 Set Scene HolidayButtonCStatus' Off and your revised control program minus the Waits: If Control 'KitchenKeypad.C' is switched on And Control 'KitchenKeypad.C' is not switched off Then Set Scene 'indoorXmasLights' On Else Set Scene 'indoorXmasLights' Off I must say, that things seem a little less reliable and I am not sure why. Sometimes I press the button, say Off, and the indicator light on the button goes out, but the controlled lights don't go out. I'm not sure if this is a program issue or a communications issue No, I put them in because they were used in the examples in the thread you sent me. I didn't really get why they were there. Thanks.

Got this working (see programs below), now three questions: 1)Why do I need "is switched off" as well as "is not switched on" in the same If statement for both the Keypad-C-On and Keypad-C-Off programs (see below)? It seems redundant. 2)When the various controlled lights are on and I push KPL.C to turn off the lights, a strange thing happens. The sequence goes: Push KPL.C off KPL.C indicator light goes off Controlled lights go off KPL.C indicator light goes back on (!!!?) 1-2 seconds later, the KPL.C indicator light goes back off and stays off Why does the indicator come on before going back off? 3)Is this the most efficient way to accomplish this task? Tome ---------------------------------------------------------- I have two scenes: 1. IndoorXmasLights contains two LampLincs (DiningXmas and LivingRoomXmas) as responders 2. HolidayButtonCStatus contains KPL.C as responder Status program called Keypad-C-Indication: ---------------------------------------------- If Status 'DiningXmas' is not off Or Status 'LivingRoomXmas' is not off Then Set Scene 'HolidayButtonCStatus' On Else Set Scene HolidayButtonCStatus' Off --------------------------------------------- Control program called Keypad-C-Off: --------------------------------------------- If Control 'KitchenKeypad.C' is switched off And Control 'KitchenKeypad.C' is not switched on Then Wait 1 second Set Scene 'indoorXmasLights' Off Else No actions --------------------------------------------- Control program called Keypad-C-On: --------------------------------------------- If Control 'KitchenKeypad.C' is switched on And Control 'KitchenKeypad.C' is not switched off Then Wait 1 second Set Scene 'indoorXmasLights' On Else No actions ---------------------------------------------

I was curious about these questions as well. Also, where does one get a network intf module and how much is it? I don't see it on the usual sites.... Tome

Well, I thought I had this figured out after your message and reading the thread you linked, but instead I managed to put on a light show... I am sure the logic is broken, just not sure where... I have 2 scenes: XmasLightsAll - which contains my 4 devices as responders XmasLightsStatus - which contains KPL.C as responder I have the following 2 programs: #1 XmasLightsKPLStatus If Status 'DRX' is not off Or Status 'TFPX' is not off Or Status 'ODW' is not off OR Status 'ODE is not off Then Set Scene 'XmasLightsStatus' On Else Set Scene 'XmasLightsStatus' Off Alone, the above seems to work for the KPL status light if I enable it, and then when something triggers it (a change in the state of one of the devices). #2 XmasLightsKPL-OnOff If Status 'DRX' is not off Or Status 'TFPX' is not off Or Status 'ODW' is not off OR Status 'ODE is not off And Control 'KPL.C' is switched On Then Set Scene 'XmasLightsAll' Off Else Set Scene 'XmasLightsAll' On This is where all hell breaks loose. With both the above enabled, a press of the switch causes all the lights to cycle on/off over and over.... I have to go to the prpgram detail and disable both programs to get the ISY to calm down and stop. Originally I tried two different programs for the second part (XmasLightsKPL-On and XmasLightsKPL-Off) but that had the same effect.

Perhaps you are talking of this thread? http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?t=1082 Which is interesting, but doesn't answer my question unfortunately.... Tome

I have 2 Outdoor ApplianceLincs and Two Dual-band LampLincs running xmas lights and want to tie them to button "C" on a Keypad linc with the following operational criteria: 1. If ANY or ALL of the 4 devices is on (via manual control, program, etc) the light on the KPL will be on. Pushing the button will turn ALL off 2. If ALL 4 devices are off the KPL button will be off. Pushing the button will turn ALL on ----- I made a scene with button C as the controller and added all devices as responders. And I made another scene with button C as the responder and tried to all the others as controllers but that didn't work. I could add the LampLincs as controllers, but not the Outdoor ApplianceLincs. But, even adding the two LampLincs with one on and one off, the button didn't light.... Is it even possible to have the behavior I describe? Tome

Is there a way to watch a program run like in debug mode, or a log of steps or something? I can watch what happens in the event log but that is just commands issued and recvd, not program steps. Is there something available from the telnet interface? Thanks, Tome

After the first time it runs, and after the wait 20, does it go back to the If clause or will it just run the Then clause 4 times? If I did that, the garage door would go down, then up, then down, then up.... Tome

Sometimes we forget to put the garage door down so I want a program that checks at midnight or so and if the garage door is up, put it down. It should wait for 15-20 seconds, then check to make sure it went down. If not, it should try again, and perhaps one more time. Then give up. Or maybe I will beep my KPL when the next version comes out that supports that. I wrote this program, which I think would work but it doesn't seem very elegant: If From 12:00:00AM To 12:01:10AM (same day) And Status 'Garage-Sensor' is On Then Run Program 'GrarageDoorDown' (If) Wait 20 second Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I take it there is not concept of looping (While)? Also, I could decrement a counter but I don't see that either... What other way can I do this, or do you think this is fine? Tome

Just got mine today and installed them. They work fine so far. In Admin Console it says Unsupported Device: 2.6 Tome

Cool, that is even better! Thanks, Tome

Is there a way to cause a KPL switch to blink or flash other then sending repeated on/off commands to it? I want to blink a button if the garage door doesn't open or close when commanded. Thanks, Tome

Ah, yes. iLinc. I forgot about that one. I'm not an iPhone user myself. iLinc supports the Thermostat which I plan to use at a vacation house [next year after Venstar updates it to handle 2-speed heat pumps]. Tome

Nice concise explanation, thanks. Ah, that I didn't realize. Would be nice if she had both options if she needed. Yes, got it. Run If is essentially Run from the start. Thanks for the wiki link. I have read a bunch of stuff there, but didn't find the How-Tos. Yep. Seems like an opportunity on the iPhone as well. All the apps give full access to the ISY. It would be nice to be able to present just a select list of devices and/or programs that a person can run. In fact, it would be nice if the ISY had multiple privilege levels, so I could use, say iLinc (iphone app) on my wife's phone but with her login she would only see a condensed set of devices and programs. I guess I'll stick with iLinc and just do some training... Again, thanks for all your help. Tome

I don't have one, but yes, you can make it a scene. Make the IOLinc relay a responder and your keypad button or other switch a controller. How else do you do it if not a scene? Cool, thanks for that. Yes, good idea, I had them enabled! I am still trying to get my head around scenes vs programs and when to run what. I have my KPL that controls the door all set up. Let's say, though, that I want to control the door from the ISY (or even better, an iPhone App that is talking to the ISY). I can look at my devices list and see that the door is down from the sensor state, and so send On command to the relay to raise it. Or, I have my two scenes which are used control/indicate garage door to KPL and I can control the door from those as well. However, I want my wife to use an iphone app and I don't want her to have to understand the interactions between sensor, relay, on commands, buttons, etc etc. So I created the door up and door down programs (same as yours) thinking she could just run door up, or door down. But I don't see where I can do that. I can run the "if", or the "then", or the "else", but there is no just "run program". Do I create another scene and somehow reference these programs. If it is a scene then she is going to see this scene as well as my two scenes for the KPL, and will she use the wrong thing. I guess this specific question is what is the best way to simplify things for my family (is there a non-admin view of the ISY)? You can tell I am a little confused here...Part of what I am asking is about programs vs scenes, part is about scheduling or running programs, and part is about the user interface to the ISY from the iPhone.

I have my setup mostly working and thought I would post my settings for my garage door control with the SmartHome package Part # 74551 and ISY99i running 2.7.7 beta. What I want: One KeypadLinc button to indicate On for door open, Off for door closed Same KeypadLinc button to put door down if up and put door up if down. In a nutshell I want it to work just like my garage door remotes that my family are used to, but with the added feature of the light to indicate up or down. I have the IOLink sensor wired with the red and black wires so door closed = (led)off, door open = (led)on. I created two scenes: 1. GarageControl with KPL.D as controller and Garage-Relay as responder 2. GarageIndication with KPL.D as responder and Garage-Sensor as controller I have KPL.D set to Non-Toggle [On] which means it should always send the On command. "Momentary hold time (10th of seconds)" of 20 which is 2 sec. IOLink set to "Momentary B: Triggered by both On and Off" LED TX is also checked, but all other settings are unchecked. (Note: the above settings can be done from either the relay or sensor device in the list) The only thing remaining to do is to create a program that will put the door down no matter it's current state, and one to put the door up. Tome

This is just done as a scene, yes? Is the query a program? How is it scheduled? Thanks for talking me through this!

I changed the wiring so now I have the sensor reading Off when closed, On when open. I also turned off the trigger reverse, but I may still need that as I am not sure how to program things yet... I looked at JacquesB program and there is more to it then I need to do. I have one KPL button that I want to indicate the state of the door (open = button on, closed = button off) and pushing that same button will either close (if open) or open (if closed). I could use two buttons if need be. I would also like to flash the button light if the indicator was on, someone pushed it to go down and it didn't. Same for the reverse direction (indicator was off, someone pushed it to go up and it didn't). Does this sound reasonable to do?

Thanks, so that will turn the led off when closed, on when open. What about the other settings? Do I not set trigger reverse then, or do I keep that enabled? Do I use Momentary C like the quick start guide says, or Momentary A like the Wiki says?

Black and Green as shown on the Quick Start Guide sheet... Tome

I searched the forum but didn't find answers to this specific question, so here goes. I just installed a garage door sensor/control kit (IOLinc V36). I think it is working but not quite the way the instruction sheet says. When my door is closed the LED is on, rather than the other way around (and the ISY shows the Sensor On). I would rather have the LED on when the door is up, off when door is down as the instructions indicate. I see that both the sensor and relay have the following options and I am not sure how they should be set. I don't see most of them mentioned in the instructions. The only one I do see mentioned is to set the IOLinc to Momentary Mode C, but is that correct? I don't want to trigger anything on sensor input - I don't THINK... Momentary hold time (10th of seconds) - 20 is default Local Programming Lockout X - LED on TX Relay Follows Input Send X10 Send On (or Off) Trigger Reverse X - Latching: Continuous Momentary A: Triggered by either On of Off Momentary B: Triggered by both On and Off Momentary C: Trigger based on sensor input I was probably going to use JacquesB (long) program for control, as I want to tie control/indication to my KeypadLinc. But before I do that I want to have the basic settings right. Tome