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I recently gleaned a used 2413U, so I think now I am comfortable with replacement PLM's. but over $200US for a used 2413S? Wow.

It's gone crackers I tell you...

I have two sites with two live ISY's (two spare ISY's, one 'installed' and I power up every so often and restore latest config to. Two spare working 2413S's and 1 spare working 2412S and two dead 2412S's (keeping for possible cap fix or further investigation). Always on the lookout for more spares....?

Scary. https://www.ebay.ca/itm/154712653107

Thanks Brian. I figured that may be an issue. Was rather hoping the motherboard was pretty dumb.

May I ask, were you able to combine the USB 2412U PLM with a serial board from a 2413S?

....aaaaand of course nowhere has new stock in Canada. I hate the fact I've invested so much time, energy and $ into this infrastructure only for it to evaporate in front of my eyes.

Yes I know. I would most probably get away with it though. Alternatively should I buy a new 2487 from an authorized dealer would it be v45+?

MrBIll, Thank you I am quite proficient at that maneuver. ? The v44 relay only fires LED non dimmable spots outside. I was considering using a v45 dimmer then use the methods in reverse we discussed a short while ago to keep the output at max should a person fiddle with the buttons. A fudge but perhaps workable....

Thanks carealtor I appreciate your findings.

It's pretty bad if you want off to be 0. I don't visually like off set to 1. The dimmer has to be set to 3,0 to match, which works okay during the evenings but not so good during a bright day...

MrBill, Thank you for the confirmation! ? It's weird because upon setup from factory default or when in setup mode they are as bright as any other KPL, but as soon as you program them, they appear to reduce to around half brightness. That's why I thought there may be some magical work-around.

Wow, okay! Very nice of you to troubleshoot this. FYI I can duplicate the issue with another 2487S I have (same production cycle) so we can rule out a fault with an individual device.

Left is the trouble switch - 2487S - Admin console says - Relay v.44 Right is a 2334-2 dimmer - Admin console says - v.45 Both are set to 15,0 via a program

test LED - [ID 007F][Parent 0024] If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Set 'Hallway / KPL6 FrntDr - OUTSIDE' Backlight On 15 / Off 0 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Hi MrBill, Yes I am certain. Saved, run then. The backlight is not as bright as the dimmer by it's side running a similar program with the same 15,0 set. It must just be the KPL model itself.

Hi carealtor. Unfortunately I get the same behavior using a program as I do manually setting it. Out of interest I could not find a way to adjust using percentage, only On/Off levels. Is this due to running the latest v5 firmware? I did some trawling and found some past posts and threads of yours that I believe is the true issue I am facing, and that is one of mismatching devices and the way they respond:

One of these 2847S's is installed in a double receptacle box together with a 2334-2 KPL. I have to set the 2334-2 to 3,0 to match the maximum output of the 2847S which is set to 15,0 I know the 2847S is capable of bright LED's as after a factory reset, the button LED's are much brighter as you would expect them to be but as soon as you program them through the ISY, the LED's dim.

Hi carealtor, thank you for your detailed input! I'm so bad at trying to explain my thoughts, I think I threw everyone off-track by stating 'switchlinc' and not 'keypadlinc' in my first post. I have a simple but weird issue: I own 2x 2487S (relay) KPL, that both have the same problem. The problem is that even when set to 15,0, the max light output the buttons have is about level 3,0 when compared to all other KPL dimmers I have. I wondered if this was a bug or just a 'feature' with these specific units.

Hi MrBill, thank you. Yep your suggestion shows they go bright at 15/1 but not at 15/0. I use 0 for off preferably, especially as I use the odd colored lens. I was rather hoping there was a way to get them to comply and increase the brightness to match the other switches.

Hi folks, Would anyone have an idea why the ISY will not let the LED buttons go brighter then they are able to?

From the 2487S manual, this procedure does not appear to work (no beep when A and D are simultaneously pressed) Adjust LED Brightness KeypadLinc’s LEDs can be set to any one of 32 brightness levels. If KeypadLinc in 6-ButtonConfiguration 1)Simultaneously tap the A and D buttons KeypadLinc will beep 2)Use the On and Off buttons to adjust the LEDbrightness 3)When you have reached the desired brightness, simultaneously tap the A and D buttons again KeypadLinc will beep

Hi folks, Is there a trick to getting a 2487S 6 button Switchlinc to respond properly to the LED button on level brightness of 15? It is still way too dim compared to a 2334 dimmer by its side which is presently set to an on level of 3 to match level 15 on the 2487. I know the switch is capable of much brighter on levels as it starts max bright from a factory reset.

I appear to have used up all my 'thank you's' for today, so I am unable to re thank all of you for you input, but thank you again all.I've learned some new stuff.

Then I'm sorry you've gone way over my head and I don't understand. You kept mentioning for this case a variable set of programs would work, when they will not. Am I missing something?