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I have a new EISY and a new USB PLM as well. Initially I got things going but it could not find one switch, one outlet (despite another outlet being right next to the one it couldn't find) and a bunch of lamp modules. Trying to do each leak detector was a massive hassle but eventually I found the "do not write updates to battery devices" (maybe that's not the exact phrase) but basically it queues up the writes and then I can enable each one then update it. I would have thought a backup from 994i to eisy (even with new PLMs) would have just "worked". I mean the full device list and all links are known, nothing has changed between my backup and purchasing the eisy, the wifi is still the same (for UD Mobile anyway), both 994i (was) and the eisy (is) using wired network. They are both in the same location as well as the PLMs in the same location. (The old serial PLM was unplugged before the migration process.) One thing I did do in order to try to "get ahead of the game" is that I switched on the old Insteon signal repeater (phase coupler) that you mount in (or near) your electrical panel. I know Insteon stopped selling this model a long time ago and it's recommended to use two plug in repeaters with one on each leg. I did switch to the plug in repeaters but I also added two switches to the in panel phase coupler "just in case" I ever wanted to turn them back on...so I did turn those back on with the hope that they would "help" with the updates. What I don't understand is that it "couldn't communicate" with this or that device but yet the programs still ran and worked (with the same devices that it couldn't communicate with)! Would you know where the setting is in IoX console to disable the scanning the network on launch? I must have added that option because that is annoying as hell when you are trying to start up. I didn't have that set before so maybe I checked something during the migration. Thank you! The not found errors on startup are driving me crazy but I will install another copy of IoX launcher.

I did the clear all 3 boxes but used a start.jnlp that I had. I'll try another download and see if the About version changes.

And what is this...you launch IoX launcher and you get a "Not Found" "Error" when the EISY is sitting right there on the IoX Finder window. You acknowledge the OK but only get a second one. The old 994i has already been removed.

For the most part things worked....but the leak sensors, can't write to them, can't remove them. Hours spent and I finally have 3 of 8 working.

Got it, thank you! If I were to purchase a new Insteon USB PLM, it either comes with a PLM specific USB cable, or can any USB cable work? (With the USB PLM)

I just received my EISY today. I currently use a network cable to go from the Insteon PLM to the ISY994. Now with the EISY you need USB to reach the PLM. Can I use a regular USB to RJ45 network adapter? Or do I have to purchase the actual "Serial PLM Kit" ? I have plenty of these adapters laying around from different mfg's but wasn't sure if the "Serial PLM Kit" was something specific to UD?

That is great to hear!! Thank you.

If my understanding is correct, everything needs to be done via UD Mobile or attaching an HDMI monitor, keyboard, mouse? I'm curious what people did to get started with the eisy when upgrading from the isy994. The reason why I held off getting the eisy was simple, I do not have room on my desk for an HDMI type monitor. I have 4 monitors on the desk and they are all Thunderbolt3. You can get an HDMI signal from the TB3 signal but putting an HDMI signal into the TB3 signal is basically impossible. I also do not have USB keyboard and mouse. The web interface for the isy994 wasn't super smooth but I kind of liked it that way, kind of following in the Craigslist fashion. Oh well, maybe I can find the world's smallest HDMI monitor.

At one time I had a great link with very detailed instructions on how best to physically install the fan module and linking it. Would anyone happen to have this link or another detailed link or video? Thank you, -Ray

MrBill, these are model 2473S. I will try the factory reset just need another person to do it via the circuit panel way. By chance could this be an indicator of X10 support? (Which according to the manual it has.) Thank you.

In the loX launcher app, one of the Outletlinc's has a lightbulb icon over it. The unit that has this issue is a v.38 (the rest are v.42) They are all installed with no scenes and the Membership (right side panel) just says "(House icon) is Responder to" (nothing for now.) I do not have this lamp icon on any other device (out of roughly 40) Thank you for you help, Ray

I found an interesting page about this issue so I just ran: % sudo rm -fr /Library/Internet\ Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin Then I could run the java install for 1.8, and there it is: the .351 build. And I still have my 9.0.4 version in the JavaVirtualMachines subdirectory where I want it. % /usr/libexec/java_home -V Matching Java Virtual Machines (8): 19.0.1 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 19.0.1" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-19.jdk/Contents/Home 18.0.2.1 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 18.0.2.1" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-18.0.2.1.jdk/Contents/Home 12.0.1 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 12.0.1" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-12.0.1.jdk/Contents/Home 11.0.12 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 11.0.12" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-11.0.12.jdk/Contents/Home 11.0.11 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 11.0.11" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-11.0.11.jdk/Contents/Home 9.0.4 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 9.0.4" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-9.0.4.jdk/Contents/Home 1.8.351.10 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java" /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin/Contents/Home 1.8.0_341 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 8" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.8.0_341.jdk/Contents/Home So, I took plunge and that recursive delete command didn't hose anything on the ISY App side of things. Thank for your help and responses on this.

No, I am not having issues - except that Java 9 is the default on this Mac. I love Macs and MacOS. My concern was that looking at it, and thinking, that Java 8 was the preferred version for UD ISY Launcher, how is it working with Java 9 - and I guess I've just been lucky so far. The cache directory of "06" - there are many numbers besides "06" (I think go up to 48 or so) so I do not believe this is a Java version number but some type of unique identifier to keep things in their given directory. But I don't know enough about the internals of why this cache structure is needed. I only run Java apps from the cmd line. And I do need the other versions for various things that I need to test with at work. I tried to see if could install the Java instance from the link you provided but it fails because I have "a later version already installed" Java 9. I can remove the one install of Java 9 that lives in the VirtualMachines directory (quite easily) but that's not the one that ISY Launcher uses - that uses the default java and the one with the caches etc. I'm not sure how to delete that one just yet. So things are working right now, but I like to head things off if something seems incorrect, like using Java 9 instead of Java 8 and then some update happens that causes things to stop working. I do see that many people have to delete newer versions of Java so that they can install an older version of Java and then go back and re-install the versions they just deleted - this is true on any OS. I don't believe the other Java versions/installs are affecting anything. I have z-shell aliases to set the environment to any of them when needed and then I can run whatever I need to from the command line (which is what I need to do). ISY Launcher is the only Java app that I have a shortcut for on the desktop (in addition to other UD ISY icons: admin.jnlp, start.jnlp, dashboard.jnlp and a ISY994 Admisistrative Console shortcut). Under the Java Control Panel --> Web Settings --> Java Cache Viewer I do see:

The fact that it is in "6.0" - does that mean anything? That does not seem to correlate to the version of java - or is this the version of UDI ?

On a Mac I can run: /usr/libexec/java_home -V and that will show all installed versions: 19.0.1 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 19.0.1" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-19.jdk/Contents/Hom 18.0.2.1 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 18.0.2.1" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-18.0.2.1.jdk/Contents/Home 12.0.1 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 12.0.1" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-12.0.1.jdk/Contents/Home 11.0.12 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 11.0.12" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-11.0.12.jdk/Contents/Home 11.0.11 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 11.0.11" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-11.0.11.jdk/Contents/Home 9.0.4.0.11 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java" /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin/Contents/Home 9.0.4 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 9.0.4" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk-9.0.4.jdk/Contents/Home 1.8.0_341 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java SE 8" /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.8.0_341.jdk/Contents/Home I have aliases for different versions as needed. Without setting anything, the default version is the 19.0.1 Is that what ISY Launcher is using?? When I click on the Get Info for the ISY Launcher shortcut icon I get: /Users/ray//Application Support/Oracle/Java/Deployment/cache/6.0/bundles/ISY Launcher.app which is a directory. The full path is: /Users/ray/Application Support/Oracle/Java/Deployment/cache/6.0/bundles/ISY Launcher.app/Contents/MacOS and from here I can launch ISY Launcher from the command line. I thought it needed Java 9 which makes me not want to unisntall the: 9.0.4.0.11 (x86_64) "Oracle Corporation" - "Java" /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin/Contents/Home Not sure how that version got installed (unless if it comes with MacOS) but I prefer to keep each version in the /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines directory. I'm trying to avoid having the ISY Launcher not work down the road. Thank you for your help.

2334-232 (switch) and 2334-222 (dimmer)

So, it went from 2486S to 2487S to 2334-232?

To further add to the confusion... https://www.insteon.com/support-knowledgebase/2016/2/22/communication-types-for-insteon-devices 2486S is dual-band but the 2486D is not dual-band, but the older (??) 2334-222 and 2334-232 are ? (or are the 2334's newer?)

It's odd because some of the 2487s' I see (model listed as such on back) do not say Dual Band on the back but some 2487s' do. Unless it has to be a minimum revision number.

Hello again Brian, So, I first got roughly 1600k ohms (between red and black) and then after a few smacks it's around 10M ohms but it's jumping all over place. If I let it sit for a bit and measure it again it could settle around 3M ohms. I had 3 different On/Off switches serving three fluorescent light circuits and those switches were installed around 2016 or so. About a year ago, I swapped one of the switches for this 2486S given that the switch was near the door and it was useful to have the other 7 buttons to make use of. Thanks for your help again. I'll try to re-install it this weekend and see if it works even temporarily. I was able to find another "space" to put in place. Looking at this thing...I wonder what the difference is between the 2486S and the 2487S with the later seeming to have the word "relay" in its description. But I do see "a" relay here on the 2486S as well.

I should also add that this unit does not work locally (physically pushing button A) or remotely. It is powered up, but the load is constantly on. I should have tried the other 7 buttons to see if they worked before I removed it. That might have narrowed things down a bit.

This is an 8 button face - not the 6 so the upper left button is the On/Off (versus the 6 button separate On/Off buttons) for what's attached to the read load wire. I always try a factory reset but I can't say that doing that has ever resolved a malfunctioning unit of any type.

I have a 2486SWH6 that is not working and I was dismantling it to see the parts on the board and I see the gold disc on the back of the plastic case with two wires going to it - any idea what this does? When I push the main (First button that triggers the relay) I could hear a faint click. Basically the fluorescent lights stay on - pushing the first button does nothing. (This is the On/Off model not the dimmer model) Anyone every make a repair on one of these. I see a relay, 3 electrolytic caps, 2 green caps? (Plus some item devices that look to be: adjustable inductor, big resister, brown mylar cap, diode and a silver capacitor.) It seems from the readings that it's usually the mylar caps. No idea what kind of caps these green things are.

I'm seeing EZIO2x4 models that have a sub-model as #5010V or #5010D. Would anyone know what the difference is between a D and V or is it similar to a REV # ?

I think they did come relatively easy. One didn’t.