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I just though of something. Can you confirm you are using the skill "ISY Optimized for Smart Home V3"? Some users are still using V2, and all of this would not work with this older version of the skill. Perhaps the app does not display the option for this reason. Benoit

Hello everyone, Tomorrow we will have a small maintenance at 5:00 AM PDT which will last a few minutes. During this period, the subscription server will be restarted, which will drop all active subscriptions. If you use Mobilinc, the app will automatically reconnect when it's back online. New features: Add support for Alexa contact sensors for ISY State variables. Add support for additional ISY sensors such as IOlinc. Benoit

Some sensors currently do not appear in the list of devices. This will be fixed tomorrow morning. I just tested with IOLinc sensors in dev. As for the variable, were you able to make it work? Other users have reported this error as well. What I have observed is that this message is shown when you select a device which is NOT an Alexa motion sensor or contact Sensor. If you chose a doorlock, you would see that message. I'm wondering if there is a bug somewhere. I have not seen this happening when done this way: Adding variable Setting the Alexa category to motion sensor Initiating a device discovery In the Alexa app, refreshing the devices (Swipe down) Creating the routine using this new motion sensor. If you change the Alexa category of a device, make sure to: Redo a device discovery In the Alexa app, refresh the devices (swipe down) When switching the alexa category say from light to motion sensor, the icon changes. But if you change from motion sensor to contact sensor, it's not as obvious because the icon is the same. Benoit

No it's not a requirement to set the variable value. I guess this were the gremlins.

I personally don't have an Android to test, but this may be that the feature is not yet available on Android. Anyone knows?

Today I noticed that you can use a ring doorbell to trigger a routine. So, you could do simple things such as to have Alexa announce that there is someone at the door. But, you could do more complex things such as simulate presence by "turning on" a program. To do so, go to the Alexa App under Routine. Select "When this happens" Select Device Choose your Ring device Choose either "motion" or "Doorbell", Save Click Add action From there, you can have Alexa say something, or choose Smart Home and select one of your device to turn on (or program exposed as a device) to do something on ISY. Benoit

The error "this device is not supported" is shown when the chosen device is not a motion sensor or a contact sensor. This list of devices currently includes devices that are not yet supported, such as doorlocks. Choosing a doorlock would give you that message. Please double check that you are adding the correct device to your routine. If you just created or changed the type and rediscovered, refresh the Alexa list of devices by swiping down. Another troubleshooting tip, first go to Alexa Devices, locate the device, and make sure that you can see the motion sensor being detected/not detected, or contact sensor open/close. Benoit

The error is shown when the chosen device is not a motion sensor or a contact sensor. This list of devices currently includes devices that are not yet supported, such as doorlocks. Choosing a doorlock would give you that message. Please double check that you are adding the correct device to your routine. If you just created or changed the type and rediscovered, refresh the Alexa list of devices by swiping down. Another troubleshooting tip, first go to Alexa Devices, locate the device, and make sure that you can see the motion sensor being detected/not detected, or contact sensor open/close. Benoit

I'm in Canada and it works. Which Alexa app are you using? iOS? Could you make sure your app is updated to the latest version? Benoit

Have you created state variables in the admin console? This is usually a symptom of not having any state variables created. Benoit

Google Home routines at this time cannot be triggered by device states. I'm not aware of upcoming changes to this. Benoit

Please try this, it this is not too much trouble: Disable the skill, then re-enable the skill. Delete the routine and re-create the routine. If that does not work, please PM me your UUID for further investigation on the server side. Benoit

Thanks for the suggestion. This will be implemented. Benoit

So we know that: Your spoken is correctly set. It has been discovered by Alexa. You are changing your state variable to the correct values. Now, the issue could be: Live update not enabled (But you already checked that it is enabled) So, what's left is the routine itself. Please delete and re-create the routine. Make sure the action works by doing a "play routine". Benoit

It may. As per Amazon specs, state changes are debounced. They can't be more often than every 30 seconds. So, if there was no activity in the last 30 seconds, the change should be fairly immediate. If it went detected, it won't go to non-detected state until 30 (or more). Benoit

Is "Live update" is enabled? Can you find the device in the Alexa app, and check the status? Can you set it to detected/not-detected based on the variable value?

Here's some troubleshooting tips: In the Alexa spoken window, make sure "Live update" is enabled. Make sure in your routine action that it speaks to the correct echo (A common mistake, at least for me, is to have the wrong echo) On the routine, use the menu | Play routine. Make sure it does what you expect. Try deleting the routine and recreate it. If for example you created a routine triggered by a variable exposed as an contact sensor, then you change it to a motion sensor in ISY Portal. The routine will no longer work. If nothing works, find the device in the Alexa app, and check the status. It is refreshed every 2 seconds or so. This should always work.

This is an issue that happens once in a while. @apostolakisl, this will sound weird, but please try this. In your list of spokens, please add one or two devices, even if you don't use them. Please use devices that regularly changes state, once a day or more. It would be long to explain, but it seems the issue is that google loses track of the "agentUserId" which uniquely identifies the user sending. When requesting to send spokens, this makes a request using your agentUserId. In addition, when devices changes states, the same authentication mecanism is used. I think that making regular requests such as sending devices states helps. In your case, all you have are scenes and programs, which don't have states. Adding devices that sends states could help. In parallel I will also reopen an older ticked with Google. Thanks, Benoit

Variables can only be exposed by as motion sensors, and this is by design. I figured that the only use case would be to trigger routines, so this was sufficient. But I understand that querying if the garage door is open is an interesting one. The list of devices shown has not changed. There are devices that are excluded, such as Remotelinc nodes, range extenders, energy nodes. If you have a node missing that you would like to see there, such as your zwave tilt sensor, please PM me the output of the ZWave node. /rest/nodes/<your node> Benoit

Not that I know of. If you can get the humidity to a state variable, and expose the variable as a light, the brightness level could be queried. But I don't know if there is a vernacular for this. I did not find it when V3 was released, but perhaps Amazon added it. Not sure. Benoit

Let me share with you some of the inner workings. At the API level, Alexa can query the status of motion sensor or contact sensor. Whenever you use the Alexa app to see the status of a sensor, this uses the API. Now, in the case of a contact sensor, I know you can ask "Alexa, is <sensor> closed?". Same for open. I'm not aware what is/if there is a vernacular to query a motion sensor. If there is one and you can figure out what it is, I can tell you the API to actually query the sensor is implemented and will work. Benoit

The maintenance should not have affected licences. Please open a ticket with your UUID referencing this thread. Will check it out promptly. Benoit

Instructions below. This will be on the wiki soon. Using Alexa Routines Alexa has for a while allowed you to create Alexa Routines to automate voice-related tasks. This capability is found in the Alexa mobile app, under Routines. Amazon has enhanced this by releasing new smart home capabilities to support motion sensors and contact sensors. The main benefit of this is to use them as triggers to an Alexa routine. ISY Portal now supports these new motions sensors & contact sensors capabilities. In ISY Portal, under the Connectivity | Amazon Echo dialog, You can choose any ISY device, and expose it to Alexa as a motion sensor or a contact sensor. That can be a real motion or contact sensor, but that could also be an IOLinc or a plain regular light. To configure a device as a sensor, just set the Alexa category to Motion sensor or Contact sensor. If you are the owner of an ELM M1 Alarm system, and have it integrated with your ISY, you can use it too! You can expose any of the zones as a motion or contact sensor. In addition to ISY nodes and ELK zones, you can also expose a state variable as a motion sensor. When configuring this, you need to specify a "Motion detected value". Whenever the state variable will be set to that value, the motion sensor status will be set to "Detected". Any other value will set the motion sensor to "Not detected". But why would someone want to expose a state variable as a motion sensor? The whole purpose is to trigger Alexa routines programmatically. One of the simple but nice feature of an Alexa routine is to say something you decide, whenever the routine is triggered. Therefore, using variables exposed as motion sensors allows you to create programs that tells Alexa to say something. Now your ISY can talk! What Alexa says is configured within the routine, and therefore static. But you can create as many routines as you want, and you can do so using a single variable. When you create the spoken in ISY Portal, you can reuse multiple times the same variable, expose it as a sensor, but use a different "Motion detected value". This allows you to have Alexa say something when value=1, something else if it value = 2, etc... Troubleshooting tips: Whenever you make changes to your spokens, please remember to have Alexa discover the devices. You can just ask "Alexa, discover my devices". If you delete or rename spokens, remember to go to the Alexa app and delete those obsolete devices. Otherwise, they will just stay there as "offline", but it will still be recognized by Alexa and give you an error message. If you change the type of a device, let's say from motion sensor to contact sensor, and you have used it in a routine, you will have to remove it from the routine, and re-add it. For more informations on Alexa Routines: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=G202200080

This morning's update is completed. Benoit

This is not currently in the roadmap. So far, the intent was for IFTTT, and renaming things were a small change. For sure, it's a best practice to use different keys for different services, but how many users would use 2+ services with this? Benoit