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Oberkc, the kpl and switchlinc replaced a physical 3 way set up so I forgotten which controlled the load. I have a great room folder, then sub folders for great room devices and great room scenes to keep the admin console organized. I think the confusing thing for me is in the first drop down box you select a device, not a scene. Not sure why it is called adjust scene since you are not selecting a scene. Zerop, I think your program is what I listed as my second program above. I have that one in the admin console disabled. Will switch to that one. Thanks guys.

Oberkc, It is the KPL that controls the load, 8 button v.43, so an older KPL. Here is the program, will have to wait until tonight to see if this works. GR Spots adjust scene - [ID 00D7][Parent 0028] If From 9:00:00PM To Sunrise + 9 seconds (next day) Then In Scene 'Great Room / Great Room Scenes / GR Spots' Set 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots' 31% (On Level) Else In Scene 'Great Room / Great Room Scenes / GR Spots' Set 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots' 100% (On Level) Or do I want to do this which I think you are suggesting. This involves selecting the device in the first part of the adjust scene, not the scene. GR Spots adjust scene Copy - [ID 00DB][Parent 0028][Not Enabled] If From 9:00:00PM To Sunrise + 9 seconds (next day) Then In Scene 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots' Set 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots' 31% (On Level) Else In Scene 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots' Set 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots' 100% (On Level) Thanks, E

I did this a couple of years ago with a similar number of devices. I was able to print a device list by room with addresses from houselinc, although I do not remember exactly how I did this. I used a composition notebook with a page for each room and made notes about everything I had to do. I wrote out button names for KPLs. I then made the migration room by room over a few day period, marking devices off my list as I went. In cases of scenes containing devices in multiple rooms, I have a KPL button for the kitchen lights in the bedroom, I tried to do those rooms on the same day, or made a note to complete the scene later. As I went I deleted the devices from HL and I reset most devices when adding them to the ISY. I paid attention to timers and created them as I added those specific devices to the ISY. Really the process was not difficult, as long as you are organized and patient. I preparation I suggest you watch the ISY tutorial videos that are probably still available on youtube. Read and use these forums. I posted many times that my only regret was not making the move sooner.

Yes, both are controllers in the scene. I don't have or want a timer to activate the scene since bedtime varies from night to night. What doesn't work is that when I hit the lol at night the lights go to 100% on. Thanks I will give that a try

I am trying to set up an adjust scene so some lights are on at night for the dog. Does not seem to be working. I have two members in the program, I think the switchlinc, v.38, controls the load, but it is the KPL button that I push at night to set the scene on. There is another KPL with a spots button that is in the scene, but not used. GR Spots adjust scene - [ID 00D7][Parent 0028] If From 9:00:00PM To Sunrise + 9 seconds (next day) Then In Scene 'Great Room / Great Room Scenes / GR Spots' Set 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots' 31% (On Level) In Scene 'Great Room / Great Room Scenes / GR Spots' Set 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots' 31% (On Level) Else In Scene 'Great Room / Great Room Scenes / GR Spots' Set 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots' 100% (On Level) In Scene 'Great Room / Great Room Scenes / GR Spots' Set 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Spots KPL (DB) - A Spots' 100% (On Level) Thanks, E

Here's another way! may not be best. We have a fixture going up the stairs that is always on. Pretty much never control the fixture locally. I have its on level change 3 times during the day, say 25%, 50%, and 90%. I created 3 scenes, fixture 25%, fixture 50%, fixture 90%, and added the fixture scene members to each scene, all as responders. Then I made programs to set the desired scene on at a particular time (maybe used time ranges, would have to check). Ex: If time is 7a Then set scene fixture 50% on. If time is sunset- 1 hour Then set scene fixture 90% on. If time is 1155pm Then set scene fixture 25% on.

I have the shower fan set to turn off at least 30 minutes after it is turned on, probably longer. In the WC I have a legit on timer switch that has 5 buttons with various times I think up to one hour . Press the button and the fan stays on that long. I think this is the type of timer Larry suggested.

Jon, I was thinking I had to add a new program, the last one I had in my post, but I think the way you suggested should work fine. Larry, It is not really the issue of control vs status. If I just have a timer based upon the door sensor, then anytime I go outside that timer will run. That is why I think I need the variable to let the isy know that I am grilling or smoking (not cigarettes) and the rear spots should stay on. Eric

Problem: Rear spots are turning off when I am grilling. I have a door sensor (triggerlinc) for a back patio door. When the door opens I have the following program to turn on the rear spots. If ( Control 'GR Door Sensor-Opened' is switched On Or Status 'GR Door Sensor-Opened' is On ) And From Sunset + 10 minutes To Sunrise - 15 minutes (next day) Then Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Outside / Outside Rear Spots' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I then have the following program to turn off the lights. This is in case the lights are turned on by the switch. I could use control so only the physical switch press will turn the lights off. Would need to add a scene off to the else in the above program. If Status 'Outside / Outside Rear Spots' is On Then Wait 15 minutes Set Scene 'Outside / Outside Rear Spots' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I have a green egg scene that is activated when I double tap a patio KPL button, which includes the rear spots. So I was outside last night and then the spots turned off on me If Control 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Patio KPL - A Patio' is switched Fast On Then Wait 3 seconds Set Scene 'Outside / Big Green Egg' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I have some disabled programs with a green egg integer variable. If Control 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Patio KPL - A Patio' is switched Fast On Then Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Outside / Big Green Egg' On $i.EggScene = 1 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') and If ( Control 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Patio KPL - A Patio' is switched Off Or Control 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Patio KPL - A Patio' is switched Fast Off ) And $i.EggScene is 1 Then Wait 3 seconds Set Scene 'Outside / Big Green Egg' Off $i.EggScene = 0 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Do I just need to get rid of the third program. Change the second program to: If Status 'Outside / Outside Rear Spots' is On Then Wait 15 minutes Run Program 'Rear Spots Off if BGE =0' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') and then add this program If $i.EggScene is 0 Then Set Scene 'Outside / Outside Rear Spots' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Thanks, E

OP, I also get double duty from several switches using fast on or fast off to turn all lights on or off in a room or to trigger certain scenes. I also use a fast on to activate a program in my son's room to turn the bedside lamp off in 10 minutes. For several of these programs that are triggered by the double tap I add a beep. This lets me know that I hit the double tap quickly enough. I'm not sure if your particular switch supports this. I also use the wait line.

There were two all on events that occurred today while no one was home. I added waits to some programs. I emailed support and need to call them to exchange my plm. We just finished converting the laundry room to a mudroom with lockers. I have had the ms on one of the locker shelves, not affixed. Just trying to find the best spot. I came home to find the ms turned around, essentiall facing the wall. WAF is low, I think the laundry room has lost its ms.

Thanks Larry, I looked at your program. I'll have to study it for a while this weekend. Eric

Stu, good idea, maybe I will implement this. Only issue I see is that if my wife turns the light off by accident then turns them back on manually, or it turns on by motion, then the light will turn back off. Maybe I would need something like this If control is switched off And control is not switched on Then Wait 3 seconds run program 2 If status lights is on Then set scene lights off. This set up would not account for the MS turning the light back on if they are turned off by accident. Meaning the lights would turn off again. Still, setting up programs involving lights controlled by the MS makes me worried about the all on event.

This is a bit annoying (light turning back on) and I do not have a good solution for it. In our reconfigured laundry/mudroom this is happening when we leave the house. Probably the thing to do if the lights turn back on is to do nothing since they will turn off in 10 minutes. However, the instinct is there to open the door and turn the lights off again. I recently changed the set up of my motion sensors to eliminate programs in order to try to eliminate the dreaded "all on". Using a program works better and allows more flexibility There really needs to be another setting on the MS. There should be a timer for when the off command is sent and one for lockout. There is an option to set the MS so it will not do anything during the lockout, but that is not what I want. I want to be able to set it so that if it detects motion, then no additional motion detection will occur for say 15 seconds. In addition, once motion is detected, wait 10 minutes before issuing an off command. Any additional motion after the 15 seconds will reset the 10 minute counter.

Thanks guys. I have it set like the pic and it appears to be working fine. Larry, the reason I do not want a program is because my pantry MS triggered an all on event. Otherwise the program gives more control because you can use the time out to prevent the MS from sending the scene on when the lights are already on. This reduces traffic and maybe saves battery life.

I am reconfiguring a motion sensor to eliminate a program and hopefully all on events. What I want to happen is if you go into the laundry room, any time of day, the lights turn on. They should turn off if no motion is sensed for 10 minutes. Any motion should reset the 10 minutes. The MS is set as a controller of the laundry room lights scene. 1. Can you explain the time out. I suspect this means that after the 10 minute time out the lights will turn off. 2. What about sensing mode, do I want this checked or unchecked. If it is checked I think the every time the MS detects motion the time out is reset. If it is unchecked I think the lights will turn off in 10 minutes. 3. What about night mode, I think I want it checked. Thanks, Eric

I've installed about 10 Cree par30 bulbs and have been disappointed. They are on dimmers, although we run them full on. I just pulled one because it was flickering and then died and noticed the housing was a bit crooked where it meets the glass. Not sure why I didn't notice when I installed it. I have one other in my daughters room that I am not happy with. In general I will be avoiding cree bulbs since their qc is not good. There were imperfections in the coating on the glass on several bulbs. What I have bought and like are the philips par30 bulbs, the funny looking ones. Great light output. I have 5 in my sons room that have been working great.

Stu, The MS is set as a controller of the pantry lights scene, but the MS is set up for On only. I have the following program to turn the lights off. I think I will set the MS into on/off mode and pull the MS out of the program. I want to keep the program in case the lights are turned on by the switch. My daughter is 4 and may not be tall enough to be in the MS range. Thanks, E If Control 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / Pantry Motion Sensor-Sensor' is switched On Or Control 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Pantry Lights' is switched On Or Status 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Pantry Lights' is On Then Wait 7 minutes and 4 seconds Set 'Great Room / Great Room Devices / GR Pantry Lights' 8 (Beep Duration) Wait 10 seconds Set Scene 'Great Room / Great Room Scenes / GR Pantry' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Stu, I think I will place the ms into on/off mode and just use a scene.

I want to figure out what do do with my MS. Thanks, E http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/13815-another-all-on-event/page-7

Good move in migrating to the isy. People use many different device naming schemes. One thing that might make things difficult for you is when you write programs. In the drop down box devices are listed alphabetically. When you go to select a device it will be more of a challenge to find it since you name by device address. If you click on any device the insteon address is listed in the window on the right, so not needed in the device name. Or you can keep the address but put it at the end of the device name. I name my devices by room, as most do. Have fun.

I am thinking surface 3 (not pro). Thanks for the responses.

Is anyone accessing the admin console with a surface tablet. I frequently go months without having to access the admin console. When I do I have to pull out my old laptop, although with a SSD it boots or wakes quickly. My wife suggested that we need another iPad, because 3 in a family of four is not enough. I'm going to be deploying a bunch of new switches soon so I was thinking of getting a surface 3 (non pro). I would just need it to surf the web and access the admin console. Any real computing can be done on the desktop or the laptop. One down side to the surface would be that there is no roomieremote, but I pretty much always have my iphone with me. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

I am usually slow to upgrade device firmware for anything as long as I have a stable functioning environment. I have been waiting for ver5 but may upgrade now. Thanks for the pic.

Lee, I removed the Door Sensor since it showed as a trigger linc and re-added it but manually selected the open/close sensor. It still shows as a triggerlinc. When I group devices I only have opened and closed nodes. There is no heartbeat node, however, when I press and hold the set button to put it into linking mode, then press it again the LED flashes like it is in heartbeat mode.So it seems the function is there. Not a big deal, I'll know immediately when the battery is dead ISY ver 4.2.18.