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Temperature inside relative to outside always feels right when first entering abuilding but after sitting and cooling off for an hour the temperature becomes more critical. Years ago, in another forum, a person reported using their thermostat as a low limit cut-out for their A/C and wired a humidistat in series with it. After some experience they claimed it worked very well and were quite impressed with the non-play comfort levels.. For the price of a humidistat it may be worth a try. Our problem here in Ontario is the humidity gets so brutal, sometimes without enough heat.to make the AC run much. If you have your windows open until the humidity occasionally pops up it can be too late and you have at least one sweaty toss'n turn night, with the A/C running all night, for sure. If the temperature drops the A/ is done and won't take it out then you have a few sweaty toss'n turn nights. Where I am right now I see over a huge valley and when it gets into the summer 30 degrees++ (86-97F) you can't see to the other side for a light fog hanging in the air. What am I doing here?

Heating failure should not be a problem. I use mine for that also. This assumes that you want to detect the temperature to avoid freeze ups of pipes etc. that can happen below 0 degrees C. For a small safety margin I assume your notifications are set to 4-6 degrees C, in order to give plenty of time to compensate with automatic heaters, or a human response, to the remote location. That works just fine with the Insteon thermostats 2441(Z)TH series. Here is a previous thread regarding freezing temperature measurement. http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/15148-temperature/?hl=%2Bfreezing+%2B2441zth&do=findComment&comment=128502

The 2441ZTH cannot do outdoor temperature ranges. I have two I have tested and they cannot send a negative Celsius temperature. The unit's electronics also quits functioning just below freezing. The remote input is not transmitted. Some have swapped the two input wiring for this but the range is still not capable of outdoor temperature ranges. 0-255 counts (one byte) @ 0.5 deg.C per count = 0.0C - 128.5C

The Insteon thermostats die just below freezing and cannot output negative temperatures for C scales. Is your range required restricted and will the Aeon device accommodate that range for outdoors? Hook it up with a NiMH battery and a small solar cell stolen from a solar lamp sized to not cook the battery.

There was a metal stud building era where metal boxes and metallic cable were both used. I had house like that. It wasn't uncommon to see me drill holes spaced one inch apart for the whole 16" span of a stud spacing just to find a stud. Darn tinfoil things were terrible to find and just pushed out of the way if you didn't drill a thread hole first for the screw to tap into. Aluminum wiring too.

Devices do not send out Insteon commands when they receive a command from another device, only when they get operated themselves, usually by a human or other sensory input. Thus no infinite loop. Note Stu posted "suppose". He was talking hypothetical. He's tricky that way

Yup! You got it! Time frames are tricky gotcha ones. When you use If From 6:00 AM To 1:00 PM Then ---- Else ---- At 6:00 AM Else stops running (if it is) and Then starts runnning At 1:00 PM Then stops running (if it is) and Else starts running You can use the time frame as a condition / filter for another trigger (you usually have no lines of code in Else) by putting the time frame in another program with the disabled checked This stops that program from triggering and auto-running. If Control Switch is On <--- anytime switch is tapped at the top, this is an event trigger Then Run TimeFilter_Program (if) Else ---- <--- will never run 'cause nothing will trigger a logical False in the If TimeFilter_Program (disabled) ---------------------------- If From 6:00 AM <----this does NOT trigger then to run automatically to 1:00 PM <-----this does NOT trigger Else to run automatically Then do something <---- this will run if inside time frame if the Switch is tapped up Else do something else <---- this will run if outside the time frame is the Switch is tapped up Weird at first, but you it will become more natural with practice.

Ummmm.... I assume ISY uses signed 32 bit variable storage. Your value is over 10 digits and 2^31 = 2,147,483,648. The best ISY could hold would be 1,508,211,553 truncating the year century, with this example. If you multiply the year 2015 times 100,000,000 you will get an overflow condition and this will result in a negative number -363,462,912

Yes. Except humans have difficulty interpreting it so I created an explode program to customs unparsed it out to more human readable form. Originally I labelled it like this MMDDhhmmss = 920123643 so that I could remember the format for it in the email. Until winter there is no leading "1" digit and confusing.

It's a hard physical motion to accomplish this. I have attempted to do it and missed the reset somehow. I would try it again. Make sure you hold that button until all the beeping and flashing stops happening. Who knows. may save you some agro. Like I stated...at this point don't assume or trust anything. Do it again.

The listed programs only get time and/or dates into variables. Now you need to compact the variables into a timestamp, usually one variable containing all the variables. This can be done (listed somewhere) by $Datime = $Month $Datime X= 100 $Datime += $Date $Datime X= 100 $Datime += $Hour $Datime X= 100 $Datime += $Minute $Datime X= 100 $Datime += $Seconds Now $Datime contains MMDDhhmmss, one compact variable which you can store beside, or with your event data, that can be exploded later for viewing by humans. (insert smart-a comment here about westerner Canucks ) ISY has a "init to" variable for each that will survive the reboot and be available always, from my experience.

My next step would be to order a new MS and a few other parts to diversify or nullify the shipping costs. I assume you want to continue your Insteon system with our assurances these units work well? Set up the new MS unit and if all works then start the RMA process. If not, then something else is awry with the MS setup and you will know where to focus your further sleuthing on. I found almost all my 9 MS units did really weird things until factory reset and I started over. I assume that was done IIRC in this thread. At this point in the troubleshooting process don't assume anything. BTW: Factory reset takes a process that is not just removing and replacing the battery.

As an alternative This could also be done with only six programs for the hour using a binary search algorithm is program count is a problem. Of course apostolakisl's other programs would still need to be integrated to keep track of the minutes. Trigger chain If Time is 0:00 OR 1:00 OR 2:00 OR ..... OR 23:00 Then Run Hour16 (If) Hour16 (disabled) if Time is from 16:00 - 23:59 Then $Hour.temp = 16 Run Hour8 (If) Else $Hour.temp = 0 Run Hour8 (If) Hour8 (disabled) If Time is 8:00 - 15:00 Then $Hour.temp += 8 Run Hour 4 (If) Else Run Hour4 (If) Hour4 (disabled) If Time is 4:00 - 7:59 OR 12:00 - 15:59 OR 20:00 - 23:00 Then $Hour.temp +=4 Run Hour2 (If) Else Run Hour2 (If) Hour2 (disabled) If Time is 2:00 - 3:59 OR 6:00-7:59 OR 10:00-11:59 OR 14:00-15:59 OR 18:00-19:59 OR 22:00-23:59 Then $Hour.temp +=2 Run Hour1 (If) Else Run Hour1 (If) Hour1 (disabled) If Time is 1:00-1:59 OR 3:00-3:39 OR 5:00-5:59 OR .......OR 23:00-23:59 Then $Hour.Temp +=1 $sMiinute = 0 $sHour = $Hour.temp

If you have more points to monitor and/or want ISY to be in control of notifications to your mobile or email you could use the cheap ($1.99) 1wire probes with an Autelis box, WC8 or Rpi with adapter. More complex but if you want to monitor several temperature points it could be a fun project for you. Probably looking at the $100-$160 range all done with enclosure etc.

Can't be done with ISY 4.x.x or earlier without having access to date/time in variables. With a real time clock inputting data into ISY or Apostolakisl's program sequence to break out the date and time info into variables. Just save a compound variable created from date and time along with the data to be saved. Notifications currently (v4.3.0) can send date and time in notifications but cannot save them without a technique stated above. Am I missing something? this sounds like a very simple request. Maybe my middle eastern Canuck accent?

I use a variable as a heartbeat from my WC8. The variable is formatted as MMDDhhmmss. I figured the year wasn't needed in ISY. After some experience with ISY becoming busy I have slowed the heartbeat down to every 15 seconds. Each time the new heartbeat / datime is changed and it is greater than 0101000000 (Jan 1 Midnight) I save the value in the "init to" register. When I ISY boots up a Boot-Up enabled program sends notification of the current date and time along with the last known WC8 datime variable IIRC I exploded the variable to look more human on the notification. This variable value could be stuffed into an adjacent variable (until ISY gets user defined indexed variable types Michel shudders!) with any recorded variable. After power failure I can tell from notifications how long the grid was out. A fairly constant boot time has to be subtracted from the time difference.

ISY RULES!!!

Ditto on the Belias programs for leak detectors. I use them with modifications. mainly names of the programs that make sense of function to me. I have nine InsteonMS units and have never had a problem with one yet. oooops... I did have one go bad and aartech.ca replaced it, just on my word, with a paid return shipping box. The range is good (look for the desensitise range jumper installed), even with my one room over 25 feet long from the corner mount, and with a direct link = scene the lights respond without any perceptible delay. I have had two false motion detections (I use them for a security system notification) in the last 9 months. One I write off to the unit seeing my bird move in it's cage at over 25 feet away, and the other I wrote off to lightning. I was away and could not tell but I knew that no other unit had triggered so either I had no intruders, or the intruder(s) went back out the same window. I have MS motion counter detectors so when I get house status reports I can compare counts with yesterday's and the day-before's counts. I also have tracking programs so I can see a history of MS units and the order they are triggered tracking motion. I find these units invaluable for real HA since I don't consider remote or local control of device HA, only control with no smarts. I find the Insteon MS units 99% as reliable as the hard wired DSC dual element motion detectors installed by professional alarm companies.

Good! Looks like the comm link was badly installed somehow. Note the manual says it can detect 7 watts to ??. I would increase your setting over that to insure function. Also you can increase the load setting, with the AV unit on, until it indicates 'Off' and then you know how many Watts the AV unit takes. Set much lower to insure no false triggers.

If you don't want the MS to retrigger the timer then use "Status" to trigger the program. If you want a manual override that the MS cannot cancelit takes two programs or more. Auto Program (enabled) If Control MS is Switched On Then Set Light On, Wait X seconds, Set Light Off Manual Program (disabled) If Control Switch is Switched On AND Control Switch is NOT switched Off (runs else) Then Disable Auto Program, Set Light On, Wait 6 hours, Run Manual Program (Else) Else Enable Auto Program, Set Light Off.

Good to hear!

You have the unit to send On at 2 Watts and Off at -3 Watts which will never be sensed. Read the manual. It tells you it cannot sense less than 7 Watts and describes their self calibration technique. If ISY doesn't update you may have a comm problem. Viewing the Event log in level 3 may show the number of hops left varies, indicating flakey communications. Did you Factory Reset the SynchroLinc before linking it to ISY? That would be my recommendation. -Factory reset the device. -Follow the downloaded manual (Google the model number and download from SmartHome's site) to set the unit to your AV load. -Link to ISY again. -Now you can view the set load factors from ISY and tweet them if desired. -Turn your AV equipment on and off to test while viewing the Admin Console status in ISY. -Do not allow the Admin Console to sleep in Windows or statuses may not update in Admin Console under Windows.

Usually a simple Then WAIT 1 second Send notification can reduce contact bounce and multiple sends before sending notifications.

I have two different versions of the 2441ZTH. The older unit can be set by ISY no problem while the newer unit cannot. I only use my two thermostats as probes and they update well based on their design. Humidity updates every minute and temperature only updates on a temperature change of about 1-1.5 degree C. Unfortunately they did not put a heartbeat temperature update or a "update -all" time based cycle to supplement the report by exception technique. When linking these units I find there has never been a 2441ZTH unit listed in ISY and I suspect that UDI thought the 2441TH profile would work sufficiently but many features do not function including increment and decrement temperatures for the 2441ZTH. That is totally internal to ISY firmware. As I reported here, SH has changed the communications profile somewhat and I suspect not released the new styles to UDI for update in their database of devices. Until better and proper support for the only native Insteon thermostats is produced for the ISY, I give up on attempting to do anything further or serious with them. They are just probes at the moment. See signature line for f/w version. I have updated with almost every version since 4.0. They never worked completely for me but I also suspect some features have quit in later ISY versions.

It is a load sense device. What do you have it sensing? If query gets an update OK then it should be working. When the load status changes (passes the threshold) it will send an update to ISY. You have to calibrate the thresholds from ISY according to the appliance you are monitoring.