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Taken, Sorry for the late reply but I was away for a few days. The 2477D SwitchLincs are v 7.5. I also had a INSTEON Dual Band Keypad Dimmer 8 Button do the same thing last night. It was in some sort of transmit loop. The indicator light at the bottom was lite up dim red continuously. It is a ver 7.3Gary

Hi Taken, Both units are reported as V.41 by the ISY Everyone... thanks for the replies... nice to know I am not the only one GaryT

I recently had a short power outage the other day. It only lasted 3 or 4 seconds but I believe it caused an issue with two of my 2477D switches. I noticed that evening that not all lights were coming on at their scheduled time. I also had problems connecting to the ISY and some switches flashed red when operated manually. I I noticed that the ISY receive led was continuously flashing. I traced the problem to two 2477D switches that seemed to be in some sort of transmit loop. The LED lights that indicate dim level were continuously blinking regardless of the dim level that I set. After I did a factory reset I was able to log on to the ISY and its receive LED had stopped blinking. I did a restore on the switches and now everything is working fine. Just wondered if this is a common problem. Its the first time I have experienced it in over two years of replacing all my X10 stuff with insteon. GaryT

Thanks Teken, I like your idea of placing them in the four corners. Just by chance this is almost the case now for the 2 main floors. I will do the same for the basement as part of the transistion. Gary

Thanks All. I appreciate the comments. I have a mix of 7 or 8 insteon plug in modules throughout the house and 3 outside for Xmas lights now with plans for a few more inside, I have filters on all the major signal suckers (from the X10 install) like UPS, power bricks, Tvs, computers, etc. I even put one on the new firnace - it has a dc motor and thoght it might generate noise. I will likely try shutting off the breaker to the X10 repeater once I get down to just the X10 baseboard heater thermostat. I have not tried the 4 tap beacon test that Teken mentioned. I will give it a try. So far the system seems quite reliable. I like the scene concept but did miss the X10 capability to turn "all off" on a specific house code. This was quite useful for turning off all of mr wife's motorized/lighted Xmas decorations. I have done that with a scene now; it is just that the X10 way was simplier to initially set up.

I have an older X10 set up that I installed in the early 90s that was controlled with a Leopard touch screen controller which finally failed on me last fall. I am about 3/4 done converting over to insteon using the ISY944. I will end up with 90 or so insteon devices once I am finished. The house is 3000 or so square feet (2 stories plus basement). I have replaced much of the leopard's touch screen capability with KPLs and later in the spring will likly add ipad or android touch screen control for sprinklers that was done on the Leopard's touch screen. I decided not to replace the Leopard's touch screen control of the RCS x10 tehermostat but to just stick with a trane ComfortLink II XL950 thermostat that I had installed when I changed out the furnace earlier this year. I have 1 X10 electric basebord heater thermostant installed which I will likely not replace because I cannot find an insteon equivalent. At the breaker panel, I have an X10 repeater (ACT I believe?) installed, a passive bridge (coupler) installed, and a passive bridge/coupler/blocker installed on the incomming main neutral conductor to block incomming and outgoing X10 signals (probably over kill). My question is how much of this X10 "stuff" that is installed at the main breaker pannel is worth keeping there once enevrything is converted to insteon. I suspect at least one coupler would be useful but I am not sure about the repeater. I am assuming that the repeater would not recognize insteon signals; so, would be of very little value. I currently have no insteon repeaters installed. I assumed that I would not need them because I ahve a fairly large number of insteon devices distributed throughout the house and they themselves repeat signals. Is this correct? thanks, Gary

oberkc, thanks, I was aware of that. The levels were o.k. I had checked and rechecked these a number of times. Perhaps there were some bad or missing links. Once I removed and re-added the KPL that did not respond to the scene correctly from the admin console everything worked as it should.

r3richard, The ISY will not let me put the pair of buttons into a new scene as controllers since they are already used as controllers in a scene. Thanks anyway for the suggestion. PurdueGuy, I tried your suggestion of triggering the scene from the admin console... good suggestion. The fan operates as it should and the light on one button of one of the KPLs changed but not on the other KPL; so, I thought I would try removing and re-adding it before I tried a full reset as you suggested and that worked. thanks for for the suggestion Adding all the KPL buttons to the scenes causes a lot of ISY writing to occur. I sometimes get a message saying that communication with one or the other KPL is lost but I notice that the progress bar keeps on going and things seem to finish o.k. Is this a concern or is it normal? This seems to happen sometimes when I do the "Copy Scene Attributes" To be safe I repeat the copy until I get a cycle without the message occurring. Not sure if I need to do the repeat step(s) Gary

LeeG, thanks, I believe that have it set up the way you mentioned. There are 8 entries for the scene "fan high" which is button C on each KPL. the scene "fan high" has 1 entry for the fan motor, 4 entries for the C,D,E,F buttons on KPL1 and 4 entries for the C,D,E,F buttons on KPL2. The 2 C button entries are controllers, the rest are responders. The 2 C entries are set to 100% and the other 6 button entries to 0% in the scene. If I click on either C button entry in the scene, it shows no entry for itself and the C button entry for the other KPL is at 100%. All other 6 button entries are at 0%. The 4 C,D,E,F buttons are set to Non-toggle (on) in each of the KPLs stusviews, yes, I have 5 scenes (light, high, medium, off, low). If I push say the high fan button © on KPL1, the C button lights and the off button (E) that had been lit goes off and the fan turns on to the correct speed. What does not happen is that the fan button © on the other KPL does not light up and the off button on the other KPL remains lit. In other words there is no synchronization between the two KPLs. I do not have for example, the C button for each KPL entered in the "fan high" scene as both a controller and responder, just as a controller... not sure if that is what you were asking thanks for your help

I have a fanlic controlled by two 8 button KPLs. Button "A" on each KPL controls the light. When I push the button on 1 KPL, the light comes on and button "A" on each KPL lights up. This is what I want. Button A on each KPL is a controller in the "fan light scene" along with the fanlinc light as a responder Buttons C,D,E,F on each KPL controls high, med, off, low The 4 buttons on each KPL C, D, E, F controlling the motor on the fanlinc are controllers for 4 scenes, high, med, off, low. Each of the scenes has two controllers (1 button from each KPL) and the other 3 buttons from each KPL are responders Scene 'high' sets button C on each KPL (controllers) to 100% and buttons D, E, and F on each KPL (responders) to 0% and the fan motor to high Scene 'medium' sets button D on each KPL (controllers) to 100% and buttons C, E and F (responders) on each KPL to 0% and the fan motor to medium etc... Each KPL operates the fan speed correctly with only 1 button out of the 4 fan speed buttons illuminated at any one time BUT does not change the corresponding button illumination on the other KPL. E.G. pressing D on KPL 1 results in the fan operating at medium speed and button D on KPL 1 being illuminated but button D on KPL 2 does not illuminate; the "off" button E on KPL 2 just stays illuminated. Am I missing something or is this not possible to do just with scenes and do I need to trigger an ISY program to change the button illumination? thanks Gary