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My eISY is in Auburn, CA, my ZMatter housing in transit to there, and my Polisy with ISY on PG2 (and I) are in Medellín... It'll be the second week of January before eISY shows up here... "Forced patience"... And an opportunity for the major bugs to be worked out. Not touching anything until then! Fortunately my wine cellar still opens with Google Assistant! Y'all have a great holiday season and a próspero año nuevo!

I wish all sensors defaulted to °C! 🤪

Good morning! Any news about the ability to migrate Z-Wave from the ISY dongle to IoP? The last announcement/banner on the website said 13. December or something like that. Shortly after that 5.5.0 was released, but I understood that it didn't include Z-Wave migration... And as a follow-up: if a migration path is not forthcoming l, is the ZMatter dongle functional to connect to Z-Wave sensors? Would that mean removing my two dozen sensors from their 15ft ceilings to re-pair them with the new dongle, or is there an easier way? Thanks.

Understood. No hurry here. You are absolutely right, there shouldn't be a case where this is necessary. But Davis Instruments is really weird and I haven't been able to transfer my date from one sytem to the other. So I am running both for now (priorities). And unless WeatherLink NS is able to handle the rest of the data, I may stay this way... BTW, the way you have it set up right now, DavisWeather uses an API and gets information from the Davis server and WeatherLink gets the information from the WeatherLink LIVE base. Both of these get their data from the weather sensors on my roof. In-house and on my WeatherLink app all data is in METRIC (per my choice). Not sure where the conversion occurs. OK. I'll ask OpenWeather to delete my account. Thanks @bpwwer for the clarification. (this is supposed to go on the very top 🤩) Cheers.

NO DICE. The bottom line seems to be that MQTT doesn't like operating on PG3 running ISY and IoP at the same time. It crashed. So, I'm back to PG2, since as of now there is no migration path for Z-Wave on Zmatter/PG3. Once that is available and I have my eisy here, I'll have an operating ISY/Polisy system and can try to migrate the whole shebang to IoP/eisy. Until then, I'm done with screwing around. Not worth my while. I'll still do the migration guide, once we have a Zwave migration for PG3 on Zmatter. Once again thank you @bpwwer and @Michel Kohanim for trying to help out. Sorry I wasted all of your time trying to find an interim solution. Lesson learned.

Hello there; Migrating from ISY on PG2 to IoP to PG3... bought the ELK NS, but am having a hard time making sense on accessing the keypads. Is there a manual somewhere? Or, at a minimum, can someone tell me how to find the Funcion keys? Cheers

The fix to this was restoring PG2 into PG3... I'm up and running now on PG3 only with IoP and ISY, with the minor detail of: No big deal, but then again, I'm anal! As I mentioned earlier, I ordered a brand new 32GB SSD. Should get it next week. Once I have it, I'll try to document the following to help get users with an old OS and MQTT devices to migrate to PG3: Pre-1: back up everything! 1- Flash OS13.1 2- Edit and save mosquitto.conf 3- Edit rc so mosquitto starts on reboot 4- start mosquitto 5- restore ISY into IoP 6- restore PG3 7- make sure all is running 8- do a Upgrade Packages from IoP... (I left this to last, since I do not yet dare upgrade to 3.1.16 and 5.5.0) (feel free to comment on the above!) Thanks again for all the input @bpwwer and @Michel Kohanim. You guys are awesome! Cheers

Hello Bob; As you said, in PG3 the two node servers on ISY were showing as " unmanaged" . So, I recorded the details and deleted first the DavisWeather node from PG2, leaving MQTT in place. after about half an hour, it still showed unmanaged. So I went ahead and deleted MQTT from PG2 as well. When I say "delete", I mean deleted from PG2, not from within ISY! It's been more than an hour now. they both still show as "unmanaged" on PG3... I rebooted Polisy and ISY. No change. I also changed the credentials for ISY inside PG2 just now, just to make sure it is no longer connected to ISY. No dice. Cheers.

Greetings; Since I had a rather painful migration, I experienced this several times. After installing MQTT node server, when you start configuring it, all fields are blank and no CONFIGURATION HELP is given. fortunately I had screenshots from PG2, so I just added the fields as necessary. Once set up and SAVED, the HELP pops up. On one of the last re-installs (I had too many to count), I tried entering and saving one field at a time. No dice. It wanted all of the fields necessary to connect. Then it splashed the HELP. It all works splendidly. Thanks @xKing. Screenshot when you first enter configuration. and only once it connects with all the necessary info, the config help shows up. Cheers

Greetings; Now that the fires are out, its time to look into the smaller details of the migration/integration. Thanks again to @bpwwer for helping me with the aforemention task. I have had a Davis Vantage Pro Plus for going on 5 years with an IP Dongle and a year ago or so I got a WeatherLink LIVE unit, so I could get a real-time look at our massive downpours (up to 10"/hr!). Looking at the registers for the DavisWeather Node Server, I see that there is significantly more to choose from (including cumulative daily/weekly/monthly etc) than with the WeatherLink node server... Am I guessing right that DavisWeather gets its data from the Davis Instruments server (hence API etc) and WeatherLink gets it from the actual LIVE unit sitting on my shelf? 1- Are you planning on expanding WeatherLink's features so I don't have to maintain two of them? 2- Suggestion: Inside IoP (or ISY), both of these NS show up as " WeatherLink by default... Would it make sense to change the DavisWeather one to "DavisWeather", to avoid confusion? I understand that they can be renamed... 3- Davis Weather CONTROLLER shows in METRIC (with a choice in the NS), yet Davis Weather WEATHER DATA with Daily/Monthly/Yearly registers only shows IMPERIAL. Any way to get all in METRIC? WeatherLink CONTROLLER and WEATHER only shows in IMPERIAL (only asks for Station IP) ... Actually only CONTROLLER shows data. WEATHER is has blank fields. Any way to get all in METRIC? (I do have the IoP and ISYs set to metric) 4- In the instruction of WeatherLink, it specifies that you need to have an account with OpenWeatherMap... Please explain. I already publish my data for the world to see on WeatherLink and Wunderground. And nowhere in the NS was I asked fo OpenWeatherMap credentials. The other issue is more on the ISY programming side: How can I compare the temperature from DavisWeather (outdoors) to the temperature from an MQTT device (wine cellar) and turn on a fan accordingly? the dropdown menus don't show that option. maybe cannot be done, or I need to write into variables and then compare the variables? Not important issues, so whenever clarity can be given. Cheers.

Good morning; Slightly off topic, but as I'm getting ready to move ISY from PG2 to PG3, I want to synchronize usernames... I'm getting this! My current username is 6 letters long. this one is 8... It's the same 8 letter username that I have in IoP... The log doesn't show anything. While we're at it, why aren't my ACTUAL user names listed? It sure would make life easier... Cheers

I ordered the same adapter a week ago to do precisely what you describe earlier -flashing my Polisy SSD with a newer OS, because mine was so old. Well, this particular adapter didn't do it. Said so, but never booted. I wonder, if you were having your issues due to the adapter. Amazon refunded me and I ordered one with a cable. 2 weeks to get here. Fortunately my neighbor was the founder of Datarecovery.com here in Colombia and they eat this adapters as snacks. So he gve me another one with a cable attached. Worked like a charm. @Michel Kohanim had recommended that I use rufus-3.21 to do the flashing. I wonder, if it will do the imaging as well. But I learned the hard way that your suggestion of imaging the Polisy SSD is precisely what I should have done in the first place. cheers

Thanks Bob; Is there a way to back up create an image of the whole SSD? Just in case I manage to bungle it like yesterday? Cheers

I just ordered a couple of 32GB mSATA SSDs, so we can try a cold start. It'll take a couple of weeks to get here.

I will put together a how-to guide. I owe this forum at least that much!

Ok, I couldn't resist. PG3 is now also running and Google Voice is back! PG3: 3.1.15, Frontend: 3.1.15, IoP: 5.4.5 PG2: 2.2.13, Frontend: 2.2.9-5, ISY: 5.3.0 Here are the next steps, for which I'm going to need help. Important, given that PG2 is about to disappear. ISY994 has the built-in Zwave dongle and is handling my 20+ motion sensors (Aeotec multisensor 6). I also have an ELK alarm system, which I was able to migrate to the ELK Node Server on PG3. I understand from @Michel Kohanim that the Zmatter dongle for Polisy/eisy (I removed it from Polisy to elimitate vaiables) is not yet ready for migrating Z-wave... Seems like I will need ISY994 for the foreseeable future to handle my Zwave devices. 1- What is the safest iterative path to move ISY994 from PG2 to PG3 and then disable PG2, so we can make sure this setup will continue working? Especially with eisy, which will no longer have PG2? 2- Also, as seen above, all of my versions are a bit dated, but are stable. Is there a less painful way than reflashing the SSD to try out more current versions? Cheers!

Look at this beauty! this is the stream of data of mosquitto broker accepting my Tasmota switches!!! [admin@polisy /usr/local/etc/mosquitto]$ sudo service mosquitto start Starting mosquitto. 1672169950: The 'port' option is now deprecated and will be removed in a future version. Please use 'listener' instead. 1672169950: mosquitto version 2.0.13 starting 1672169950: Config loaded from /usr/local/etc/mosquitto/mosquitto.conf. 1672169950: Opening ipv6 listen socket on port 1884. 1672169950: Opening ipv4 listen socket on port 1884. 1672169950: mosquitto version 2.0.13 running [admin@polisy /usr/local/etc/mosquitto]$ 1672169950: New connection from 192.168.10.101:51626 on port 1884. 1672169950: New client connected from 192.168.10.101:51626 as DVES_925B39 (p2, c1, k30, u'Orientes'). 1672169950: New connection from 192.168.10.83:54157 on port 1884. 1672169950: New client connected from 192.168.10.83:54157 as DVES_4BC9DB (p2, c1, k30, u'Orientes'). 1672169951: New connection from 192.168.10.17:62094 on port 1884. 1672169951: New client connected from 192.168.10.17:62094 as DVES_5AC5B4 (p2, c1, k30, u'Orientes'). 1672169959: New connection from 192.168.10.92:54723 on port 1884. 1672169959: New client connected from 192.168.10.92:54723 as DVES_4BC9FA (p2, c1, k30, u'Orientes'). 1672169961: New connection from 192.168.10.23:59287 on port 1884. 1672169961: New client connected from 192.168.10.23:59287 as DVES_953E73 (p2, c1, k30, u'Orientes'). 1672169965: New connection from 192.168.10.122:59118 on port 1884. 1672169965: New client connected from 192.168.10.122:59118 as DVES_8E1BEE (p2, c1, k30, u'Orientes'). 1672169967: New connection from 192.168.10.143:52155 on port 1884. 1672169967: New client connected from 192.168.10.143:52155 as DVES_1F4DC5 (p2, c1, k30, u'Orientes'). 1672169968: New connection from 192.168.10.121:49273 on port 1884. 1672169968: New client connected from 192.168.10.121:49273 as DVES_A192B6 (p2, c1, k30, u'Orientes'). Following your recommended steps of: re-flash, configure mosquito.conf restore ISY and PG2 (and NO upgrade packages) we're up and running! Google Voice is not yet communicating with Universal Devices, but that is likely because I need to renew that connection. And I still have both ISY and IoP on the ISY Portal... Not daring to open PG3 right now! At least I have my house back! Thanks soooo much for leading me through this @bpwwer and @Michel Kohanim.

Thanks Bob; Before I do another re-flash, I'd like to share a couple of log files. Here is the one from PG3's MQTT node server, at: 2022-12-27 13:32:22,569 Thread-6 udi_interface WARNING mqtt-poly:_on_disconnect: Poly MQTT disconnected, trying to re-connect 2022-12-27 13:34:22,593 Thread-6 udi_interface WARNING mqtt-poly:_on_disconnect: Poly MQTT disconnected, trying to re-connect 2022-12-27 13:36:22,634 Thread-6 udi_interface WARNING mqtt-poly:_on_disconnect: Poly MQTT disconnected, trying to re-connect 2022-12-27 13:40:14,562 MainThread udi_interface INFO polylogger:set_basic_config: set_basic_config: enable=True level=30 2022-12-27 13:40:16,750 MainThread udi_interface INFO __init__:<module>: UDI Python Interface for Polyglot version 3 3.0.51 Starting... 2022-12-27 13:40:16,889 MainThread udi_interface.interface INFO interface:__init__: Initialization received from Polyglot V3 3.1.16 [ISY: 5.5.0, Slot: 1] 2022-12-27 13:40:16,890 MainThread udi_interface.interface INFO interface:__init__: Connect: Network Interface: {'addr': '192.168.10.248', 'netmask': '255.255.255.0', 'broadcast': '192.168.10.255'} 2022-12-27 13:40:16,892 Interface udi_interface.interface INFO interface:_startMqtt: Connecting to MQTT... localhost:1888 <---- NOTE PORT 1888? 2022-12-27 13:40:16,895 MainThread udi_interface.interface WARNING interface:start: No node server version specified. Using deprecated server.json version 2022-12-27 13:40:16,896 MainThread udi_interface.interface WARNING interface:db_getNodeDrivers: mqctrl not found in database. <----- what is mqctrl? 2022-12-27 13:40:16,897 MainThread udi_interface.interface WARNING interface:send: MQTT Send waiting on connection :: {'config': {'version': '0.0.10'}} 2022-12-27 13:40:16,945 MQTT udi_interface.interface INFO interface:_connect: MQTT Connected with result code 0 (Success) 2022-12-27 13:40:16,946 MQTT udi_interface.interface INFO interface:_connect: MQTT Subscribing to topic: udi/pg3/ns/clients/00:0d:b9:52:c7:30_1 - MID: 1 Result: 0 2022-12-27 13:40:16,953 MQTT udi_interface.interface INFO interface:_subscribe: MQTT Subscribed Succesfully for Message ID: 1 - QoS: (0,) 2022-12-27 13:40:19,918 MainThread udi_interface.interface INFO interface:addNode: Adding node MQTT Controller(mqctrl) [None] 2022-12-27 13:40:25,791 Thread-3 udi_interface ERROR mqtt-poly:start: Error connecting to Poly MQTT broker [Errno 61] Connection refused <----this would be normal since the broker isn't running right now Note comment on line 8 (why port 1888?). I thought PG3 operated on 1883... Note comment on line 10 (what is mqctrl? Also line 11 says a deprecated json version is being used But it seems to connect succesfully until last line: But we didn't start the broker... Now PG2: 2022-12-27 13:37:07,696 Thread-1 polyinterface WARNING mqtt-poly:_on_disconnect: Poly MQTT disconnected, trying to re-connect 2022-12-27 13:38:13,032 MQTT polyinterface DEBUG polyinterface:_message: Received stop from Polyglot... Shutting Down. 2022-12-27 13:38:13,033 MQTT polyinterface INFO polyinterface:stop: Disconnecting from MQTT... localhost:1884 2022-12-27 13:39:27,292 MainThread polyinterface INFO polylogger:set_basic_config: set_basic_config: enable=True level=30 2022-12-27 13:39:28,346 MainThread polyinterface INFO polyinterface:init_interface: Received Config from STDIN. 2022-12-27 13:39:28,347 MainThread polyinterface INFO __init__:<module>: UDI Polyglot v2 Interface 2.1.0 Starting... 2022-12-27 13:39:28,602 MainThread polyinterface DEBUG polyinterface:get_network_interface: gws: {'default': {2: ('192.168.10.1', 'igb0')}, 2: [('192.168.10.1', 'igb0', True)]} 2022-12-27 13:39:28,603 MainThread polyinterface DEBUG polyinterface:get_network_interface: gw: default=('192.168.10.1', 'igb0') 2022-12-27 13:39:28,604 MainThread polyinterface DEBUG polyinterface:get_network_interface: ifad: igb0=[{'addr': '192.168.10.248', 'netmask': '255.255.255.0', 'broadcast': '192.168.10.255'}] 2022-12-27 13:39:28,605 MainThread polyinterface INFO polyinterface:__init__: Connect: Network Interface: {'addr': '192.168.10.248', 'netmask': '255.255.255.0', 'broadcast': '192.168.10.255'} 2022-12-27 13:39:28,607 Interface polyinterface INFO polyinterface:_startMqtt: Connecting to MQTT... localhost:1883 2022-12-27 13:39:28,678 MQTT polyinterface INFO polyinterface:_connect: MQTT Connected with result code 0 (Success) 2022-12-27 13:39:28,680 MQTT polyinterface INFO polyinterface:_connect: MQTT Subscribing to topic: udi/polyglot/ns/1 - MID: 1 Result: 0 2022-12-27 13:39:28,682 MQTT polyinterface INFO polyinterface:_connect: MQTT Subscribing to topic: udi/polyglot/connections/polyglot - MID: 2 Result: 0 2022-12-27 13:39:28,683 MQTT polyinterface INFO polyinterface:_connect: Sent Connected message to Polyglot 2022-12-27 13:39:28,692 MQTT polyinterface INFO polyinterface:_subscribe: MQTT Subscribed Succesfully for Message ID: 1 - QoS: (0,) 2022-12-27 13:39:28,746 MQTT polyinterface INFO polyinterface:_subscribe: MQTT Subscribed Succesfully for Message ID: 2 - QoS: (0,) 2022-12-27 13:39:29,219 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Started MQTT controller 2022-12-27 13:39:30,977 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Office Bath 2022-12-27 13:39:30,979 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Office Bath(ofcbath) 2022-12-27 13:39:30,981 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Office Sky 2022-12-27 13:39:30,983 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Office Sky(ofcsky) 2022-12-27 13:39:30,985 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Gym Bath 2022-12-27 13:39:30,986 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Gym Bath(gymbath) 2022-12-27 13:39:30,989 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Gym Sky 2022-12-27 13:39:30,990 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Gym Sky(gymsky) 2022-12-27 13:39:30,993 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Gym Closet 2022-12-27 13:39:30,995 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Gym Closet(gymcloset) 2022-12-27 13:39:30,997 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Exterior Hallway 2022-12-27 13:39:30,999 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Exterior Hallway(exthall) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,001 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Linen Closet 2022-12-27 13:39:31,002 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Linen Closet(lincl) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,005 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Hallway Floor 2022-12-27 13:39:31,006 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Hallway Floor(hallflr) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,008 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Office Cinta 2022-12-27 13:39:31,009 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Office Cinta(ofccinta) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,011 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Gym Cinta 2022-12-27 13:39:31,012 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Gym Cinta(gymcinta) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,014 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Emergency Office 2022-12-27 13:39:31,015 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Emergency Office(emofc) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,016 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Hallway Cinta 2022-12-27 13:39:31,017 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Hallway Cinta(hallcinta) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,019 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch IT Closet 2022-12-27 13:39:31,020 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node IT Closet(itcl) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,022 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Pantry 2022-12-27 13:39:31,024 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Pantry(pantry) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,026 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Kitchen Island 2022-12-27 13:39:31,027 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Kitchen Island(kitisl) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,029 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Kitchen Sky 2022-12-27 13:39:31,031 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Kitchen Sky(kitsky) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,033 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Social Bath 2022-12-27 13:39:31,034 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Social Bath(socialbath) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,043 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Patio Island 2022-12-27 13:39:31,045 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Patio Island(patisl) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,047 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Patio Sky 2022-12-27 13:39:31,049 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Patio Sky(patsky) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,052 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Exterior Social Bath 2022-12-27 13:39:31,053 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Exterior Social Bath(extsb) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,063 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Dining Table 2022-12-27 13:39:31,065 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Dining Table(dintbl) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,067 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Dining Sky 2022-12-27 13:39:31,071 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Dining Sky(dinsky) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,074 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Terrace Sky 2022-12-27 13:39:31,076 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Terrace Sky(tersky) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,078 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Entry Starlight 2022-12-27 13:39:31,079 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Entry Starlight(entstar) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,081 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Entry 2022-12-27 13:39:31,083 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Entry(entry) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,085 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Living 2022-12-27 13:39:31,087 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Living(living) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,089 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Living Bar 2022-12-27 13:39:31,090 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Living Bar(livbar) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,092 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Living Starlight 2022-12-27 13:39:31,094 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Living Starlight(livstar) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,096 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Water Room 2022-12-27 13:39:31,098 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Water Room(waterroom) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,100 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Social Bath Cinta 2022-12-27 13:39:31,101 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Social Bath Cinta(sbathcinta) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,104 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Exterior Cactus Garden 2022-12-27 13:39:31,106 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Exterior Cactus Garden(extcact) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,108 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Exterior Pantry 2022-12-27 13:39:31,109 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Exterior Pantry(extpantry) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,112 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Living Cinta 2022-12-27 13:39:31,113 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Living Cinta(lvgcinta) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,116 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Emergency Kitchen 2022-12-27 13:39:31,117 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Emergency Kitchen(emkitchen) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,120 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Master Sky 2022-12-27 13:39:31,121 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Master Sky(mstsky) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,123 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Master TV Sky 2022-12-27 13:39:31,125 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Master TV Sky(msttvsky) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,127 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Master Closet 2022-12-27 13:39:31,129 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Master Closet(mstcl) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,131 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Master Bath Sky 2022-12-27 13:39:31,132 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Master Bath Sky(mstbrsky) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,134 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Jacuzzi Sky 2022-12-27 13:39:31,136 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Jacuzzi Sky(jacsky) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,138 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Exterior Living 2022-12-27 13:39:31,140 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Exterior Living(extliving) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,142 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Living Floor 2022-12-27 13:39:31,143 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Living Floor(lvgfloor) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,145 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Exterior Master East 2022-12-27 13:39:31,147 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Exterior Master East(extmsteast) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,149 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Master Cinta 2022-12-27 13:39:31,151 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Master Cinta(mstcinta) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,153 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Master Bath Cinta 2022-12-27 13:39:31,155 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Master Bath Cinta(mstbrcinta) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,156 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Emergency Front Yard 2022-12-27 13:39:31,158 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Emergency Front Yard(emfrontyd) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,160 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Emergency Jacuzzi 2022-12-27 13:39:31,161 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Emergency Jacuzzi(emjac) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,163 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Service Kitchen 2022-12-27 13:39:31,165 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Service Kitchen(svskit) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,172 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Service Sky 2022-12-27 13:39:31,175 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Service Sky(svssky) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,177 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Service Bath 2022-12-27 13:39:31,181 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Service Bath(svsbath) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,184 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Laundry 2022-12-27 13:39:31,186 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Laundry(laundry) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,188 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Exterior Service East 2022-12-27 13:39:31,190 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Exterior Service East(exteast) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,192 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Exterior Service 2022-12-27 13:39:31,194 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Exterior Service(extsvs) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,196 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Service Cinta 2022-12-27 13:39:31,198 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Service Cinta(svscinta) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,200 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Pool Storage 2022-12-27 13:39:31,201 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Pool Storage(poolstor) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,204 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Emergency Pool 2022-12-27 13:39:31,205 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Emergency Pool(empool) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,207 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Workshop Bath 2022-12-27 13:39:31,209 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Workshop Bath(wsbath) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,211 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Workshop Sky 2022-12-27 13:39:31,215 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Workshop Sky(wssky) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,218 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Parking 2022-12-27 13:39:31,219 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Parking(parksky) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,232 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Exterior Gym 2022-12-27 13:39:31,233 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Exterior Gym(extgym) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,235 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Parking Bath 2022-12-27 13:39:31,237 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Parking Bath(parkbath) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,240 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Solar 2022-12-27 13:39:31,241 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Solar(solar) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,249 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Emergency Parking South 2022-12-27 13:39:31,251 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Emergency Parking South(emsouth) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,275 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Emergency Parking North 2022-12-27 13:39:31,276 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Emergency Parking North(emnorth) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,278 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Electrical Room 2022-12-27 13:39:31,280 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Electrical Room(elec) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,282 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Exterior Guest Parking 2022-12-27 13:39:31,283 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Exterior Guest Parking(extgstpark) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,287 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Cellar Light 2022-12-27 13:39:31,289 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Cellar Light(clrcinta) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,292 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Cellar Fan 2022-12-27 13:39:31,293 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Cellar Fan(clrfan) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,296 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Open Cellar 2022-12-27 13:39:31,298 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Open Cellar(clropen) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,301 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Close Cellar 2022-12-27 13:39:31,303 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Close Cellar(clrclose) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,305 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Exterior Bar Garden 2022-12-27 13:39:31,307 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Exterior Bar Garden(extbargdn) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,310 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Jacuzzi Floor 2022-12-27 13:39:31,311 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Jacuzzi Floor(jacfloor) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,313 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Terrace Floor Right 2022-12-27 13:39:31,315 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Terrace Floor Right(terrflrr) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,317 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Terrace Floor Left 2022-12-27 13:39:31,319 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Terrace Floor Left(terrflrl) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,321 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Exterior Zen Garden 2022-12-27 13:39:31,322 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Exterior Zen Garden(extzengdn) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,325 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Patio Floor 2022-12-27 13:39:31,327 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Patio Floor(patfloor) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,329 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding TempHumid Cellar Temp 2022-12-27 13:39:31,331 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Cellar Temp(clrtemp) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,333 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Car Gate 2022-12-27 13:39:31,335 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Car Gate(cargate) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,337 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Side Gate 2022-12-27 13:39:31,338 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Side Gate(sidegate) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,341 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Camera Gate 2022-12-27 13:39:31,343 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Camera Gate(camgate) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,345 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Camera Hill 2022-12-27 13:39:31,346 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Camera Hill(camhill) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,348 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Camera Lake 2022-12-27 13:39:31,350 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Camera Lake(camlake) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,352 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Camera Dam 2022-12-27 13:39:31,354 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Camera Dam(camdam) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,356 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Bedside JR 2022-12-27 13:39:31,358 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Bedside JR(bedsidejr) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,360 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Bedside Heather 2022-12-27 13:39:31,361 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Bedside Heather(bedsidehl) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,364 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Blue Desk Lamp 2022-12-27 13:39:31,365 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Blue Desk Lamp(bluelamp) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,367 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Home Theater 2022-12-27 13:39:31,369 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Home Theater(hometheater) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,371 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z1 Orientes 2022-12-27 13:39:31,372 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z1 Orientes(orientes) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,414 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z1 Gate 2022-12-27 13:39:31,416 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z1 Gate(gate) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,418 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z2 Interior 2022-12-27 13:39:31,420 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z2 Interior(interior) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,421 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z2 Exterior 2022-12-27 13:39:31,423 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z2 Exterior(exterior) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,425 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z2 Guest Suite 2022-12-27 13:39:31,426 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z2 Guest Suite(guestsuite) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,428 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z2 Cellar 2022-12-27 13:39:31,429 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z2 Cellar(cellar) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,431 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z2 WorkShop 2022- 12-27 13:39:31,433 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z2 WorkShop(workshop) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,435 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z2 Parking 2022-12-27 13:39:31,436 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z2 Parking(parking) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,438 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z2 Utility 2022-12-27 13:39:31,439 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z2 Utility(utility) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,441 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z2 Pool 2022-12-27 13:39:31,442 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z2 Pool(pool) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,444 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z3 Wall 2022-12-27 13:39:31,446 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z3 Wall(wall) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,447 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z3 Cinta 2022-12-27 13:39:31,449 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z3 Cinta(cinta) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,451 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z3 Floor 2022-12-27 13:39:31,452 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z3 Floor(floor) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,455 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z3 Closet 2022-12-27 13:39:31,456 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z3 Closet(closet) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,458 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z3 Sky 2022-12-27 13:39:31,461 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z3 Sky(sky) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,463 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z3 Tech 2022-12-27 13:39:31,465 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z3 Tech(tech) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,467 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z3 Floods 2022-12-27 13:39:31,468 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z3 Floods(floods) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,470 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z3 Landscape 2022-12-27 13:39:31,471 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z3 Landscape(landscape) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,473 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z3 Lamp 2022-12-27 13:39:31,475 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z3 Lamp(lamp) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,477 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z3 Hanging 2022-12-27 13:39:31,478 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z3 Hanging(hanging) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,480 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z3 Fan 2022-12-27 13:39:31,481 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z3 Fan(fan) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,483 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z4 Social 2022-12-27 13:39:31,484 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z4 Social(social) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,486 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z4 Master Suite 2022-12-27 13:39:31,487 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z4 Master Suite(mastersuite) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,489 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z4 Emergency 2022-12-27 13:39:31,491 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z4 Emergency(emergency) 2022-12-27 13:39:31,492 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Done adding nodes, connecting to MQTT broker... 2022-12-27 13:39:31,500 Node Server polyinterface ERROR mqtt-poly:start: Error connecting to Poly MQTT broker [Errno 61] Connection refused it works on 1883 alright and seems to connect. (at the beginning you see me shutting down after I change from 1884 to 1883) I get the same [Errno61] as in PG3, again because the broker isn't running I think you are right. This has something to do with upgraded packages. I just asked @Michel Kohanim for a 12.2 version, which I can reflash. He doesn't have one... so we're stuck trying to get this to work. With so many moving parts, this is not going to be fun. I'll re-flash with 13.1 and won't upgrade. Let's see, if we can get it to work on PG2 first. I won't even touch IoP as a first pass. BTW, on 12.2 i was able to restore PG2 onto PG3. This no longer works!

RATS! Ok, I executed the steps above. And rebooted Polisy to make sure. sudo service mosquitto status confirmed that mosquitto is running on pid 1130. Oddly, [admin@polisy ~]$ pgrep mosquitto 1130 1135 pgrep shows two processes running. Not quite sure why. AAANNNDD: PG2 is not responding anymore and IoP disappeared from the IoX Launcher. So, it is confirmed that launching mosquitto crashes Polyglot somehow. Except, I didn't download mosquitto this time, it is already on the system. I just executed the steps I had done in June 2020. It must be said that mosquitto is now a very different rev. Could the fact that there are 2 processes running be the problem? How do I make sure only one runs? So, any help to solve this mystery would be welcome

Ok, making progress; In @gzahar explains what needs to be done with the mosquitto.conf file. I'm not very familiar with the sed command at all, and could use some help, confirming that I understood this correctly: #!/bin/sh PREFIX=/usr/local/etc/mosquitto PASSWORD=`openssl rand -base64 8` echo "Your Mosquitto user is: mqttuser" echo "Your Mosquitto password is: ${PASSWORD}" PREFIX sets the path for legibility PASSWORD is generated randomly (I'll set this later as shown below) and the pair is echoed on the screen. sed -i .bak -e 's/^port 1883/port 1884/' -e 's/^#allow_anonymous true$/allow_anonymous false/' -e 's/^#password_file$/password_file \/usr\/local\/etc\/mosquitto\/pwfile/' ${PREFIX}/mosquitto.conf I understand that the -e wants to replace: port 1883 --> port 1884 (except the new mosquitto.conf replaces this with "listener" default is 1883, I'll use 1884) #allow_anonymouse true --> allow_anonymous false (understood) #password_file --> password_file /usr/local/etc/mosquitto/pwfile (understood) inside the mosquitto.conf file (understood) cp /dev/null ${PREFIX}/pwfile No idea what this means. Can you please explain mosquitto_passwd -b ${PREFIX}/pwfile mqttuser ${PASSWORD} here we're adding the new user and password to the pwfile sysrc mosquitto_enable=YES not really sure what this is. Can you please explain? service mosquitto start this is fairly clear. The one remaining thing is that mosquitto needs to start by itself after a reboot. Will it do that, or do we need to add a line somewhere? I will save the current file as .old and modify .conf as explained above. Let's see what gives. Stay tuned Cheers

Hello Bob; So, I decided to reflash the SSD to get a clean slate. Both PG3 and PG2 showed up. I upgraded the packages. PG2 connected to the ISY994 and I restored PG2. The MQTT NS connected, but it is still refusing to connect to the MQTT broker: 2022-12-27 06:19:46,387 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z4 Social 2022-12-27 06:19:46,389 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z4 Social(social) 2022-12-27 06:19:46,390 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z4 Master Suite 2022-12-27 06:19:46,392 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z4 Master Suite(mastersuite) 2022-12-27 06:19:46,393 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Adding switch Z4 Emergency 2022-12-27 06:19:46,394 Node Server polyinterface INFO polyinterface:addNode: Adding node Z4 Emergency(emergency) 2022-12-27 06:19:46,395 Node Server polyinterface INFO mqtt-poly:start: Done adding nodes, connecting to MQTT broker... 2022-12-27 06:19:46,400 Node Server polyinterface ERROR mqtt-poly:start: Error connecting to Poly MQTT broker [Errno 61] Connection refused I'm reluctant to install the mosquitto broker, since you're telling me that PG2 and PG3 have their own brokers... all of my Tasmotas are operating on port 1884. Yet the Polyglot setting (PG2) is 1883 Could that be the problem? Note that when I was getting ready to migrate from 12x, I took a screenshot of that same polyglot and it also has 1883 as the port (and all the tasmotas 1884)... Any help would be welcome at this point. cheers.

Indeed, if that had been obvious, I would have bought another SSD and flashed it, in order to keep the 12.2 as a working backup. Live and learn! I even asked someone in the know about getting as spare SSD and was told "shouldn't be necessary".

Yes, I did try to restore both PG2 and PG3 from the PG2 backup prior to beginning the migration. I didn't make a PG3 backup, because (maybe erroneously) I thought this was going to be a temporary affair, due to the lack of Z-Wave and that I would end up using the ISY994/PG2 backups as my base for the final step of migration. To tell you the truth though, I do not recall, if i restored ISY or PGx first...

oddly now, mosquitto seems to be running in two separate processes: [admin@polisy ~]$ pgrep mosquitto 1169 1174 [admin@polisy ~]$ "confusion" doesn't begin to describe my state right now

Hi Bob; In 12x I had a mosquitto broker installed and running and it worked well. Before I started migration to IoP, I made backups of ISY994 from within Admin Console and also a backup of PG2. I then installed PG3 (yes, it runs on 12.2!) and did a partial migration to IoP, since the Z-wave dongle for Polisy wasn't (and apparently still isn't) functional. I left the Z-Wave programs on the ISY994 and move the rest to IoP, adding the ELK NS in the process. All this worked very well and I could notice a difference in speed in the response to Google voice commands. I vaguely recall spending time getting the mosquitto broker up and running with @xKingand @Michel Kohanim a few years back. PG2 didn't have an MQTT broker then as I recall. So, I would like to get back to where I was. I have ISY994 backups and PG2 backups from before 13.1. How do I go about it? If PG2 and PG3 have MQTT brokers built in, how do I configure them? all of my Tasmotas are on port 1884. (PG2 Config has an area to set ports and users etc, but I didn't find this on PG3)... Thansk again Bob, Cheers