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Just a thought, evarsanyi.. Rather than push two paddles. Set up ISY to, in the case of a fast off on paddle (1), switch (1 & 2) go OFF. This way ISY will do the timing. Works on my system! aLf

What exactly does the "run @ reboot" do. I assume that it will run that particular program, but what part of the program? I have a simple "almost" everything program which turns all lights off every 15 minutes. I have it set to "run @ reboot". Here is the program. What happens, should the power go out, ISY, dies, then the power comes back up? Keep in mind that nobody knows what happens to a KPL if the power goes ou and then on. I've seen both ways! If Status KPL1 is OFF OR Status KPL2 is OFF OR Status APL1 is OFF Then Repeat Every 15 minutes Set Scene "ALL OFF" Off Else Nothing What I want/need is a program which does the above. Also, if, and it will, the power goes out. Then ISY comes up , and runs the "ALL OFF" program. I have included the (3) items to show status, KPL 1 & 2, and an APL which all three are inclusive in a scene. If any of the three are "OFF" , then I assume the program will run. But as important or more so, if the power goes out and back on, I need to "run @ reboot" the program so as to make sure the lights stay out. I have had (prior to ISY) many errant Insteon turn ons that in one case had 30+ lights on for days. $$$$$... If anyone has a better or more fail-safe idea, please post. Thanks, aLf

Thanks upstate. I'll try it. Tim

Chris: To clarify my questions on ( ), In the case I stated last night, I needed all the "or's" and all the "and's" to be TRUE, herefore, I'm not sure why the ( ) helped differentiate the call as true or false? Tim

Chris: When sunset came around today the items fired, but they flashed on and off, on and off. I had to remove the call for else. Take the Christmas lights. The program was: From sunset To 10:30PM IF Gate outlet is OFF Then Gate outlet ON ELSE Gate outlet OFF I would think that any time the gate outlet was turned on away from sunset to 10:30PM the program would turn it off. It did just that. But at sunset the gate outlet flashed on and off as the GUI showed the same. I removed the ELSE and the flashing stopped. I'll look tonihjt after 10:30 and see if, #1 it turned out and #2 if I try and turn it on, will ISY turn it out? What did I do wrong with my program? I must be missing something in the syntax. I'm still struggling with the logic of the ( ) issues as well. I'm not sure why the TRUE FALSES change with ( ). Tim

Chris: Thanks. It works! Could you explain what the () do? Again thanks. TIm

Help: I've got the following program which is not acting right... IF status GAR KPL H IS ON or status MBR KPL H IS ON or status APPLIANCE LINC IS ON and FROM SUNSET to 10:35PM (SAME DAY) and GARAGE CLOCK APPLIANCE LINC IS OFF THEN SET GARAGE CLOCK APPLIANCE LINC ON This seems to work during the time sunset to 10:35, but after 10:35 is shows a "TRUE" and will not turn off. I've tried anothe appliancelinc, same result. I have an inlinelinc that has an identical program and does it perfectly. It also shows "FALSE"? What am I doing wrong?

Sub, I love your posts, but the picture has gotta go. Very distracting.

Michel: Is the beta PLM replacement, 1) the higher memory? 2) Rid of all the bugs that are inmy current one? 3) Is there any difference between the beta and the new versionthat SH is sending? aLf

Not sure if I'm on track here or not, but I have now read several responses from folks about communication errors and KPL not showing status, etc. I too have a vacvation button controling nothing. It is just looked at by ISY to run various programs. I'm still running 2.4.13 and last week I experienced some intermittent result status' on my KPL buttons. I tried a bunch of troubleshooting and could not find a common (link) to the problem(s). I tried moving access points and nothing made any sense. Some times it would show staus correctly sometimes it wouldn't. In the past it was 100% reliable. (I tried touching base with you Michel). Is there some Insteon problem showing up here?

I bought directly from UD and can't understand why anyone would buy anywhere else? Not only do I feel a bond with Michel and Chris, I think everyone else on this board feels the same. Why pay a middle-man when theses guys "be the man". Kudos as always to UD for standing their ground. As far as SH developing an ISY, HAAAA, bring it on. This ISY jewel is just that. Houselinc will never hold a candle to it and SH support couldn't come close. Oh and for what its worth to anyone, ISY is worth every penny I paid over and over.

It is all about satisfaction. It doesn't mean that the program is running (or not). It only meas that the criteria set forth is within the parameters specified. For instance, IF between 5:00 and 6:00 would show TRUE at 5:16, but FALSE at 6:12. THEN does its thing only when the IFS are within spec.

I may be wrong, but isn't the same as air-gapping a SW after the "LOCAL" ramp adjustment in ISY?

Mark: Maybe you can pick this one up? I need to know the code you wrote for the immediate off call for any switch, i.e., I have ISY query a KPL button for status, if OFF=AWAY, if ON=HOME. I need to write a program that will turn every switch off if it gets turned on, if KPL button is OFF. I've though about grouping and ALL-OFF, but som e devices (Xmas light, security etc) have to still be available. I'm OK with writing each one, but had hoped that each individual switch could be addrerssed in one program. Not only will this save a little more energy, but also will be a good security code in that if someone came in and turned on a switch that immediately went out might freak them out thinking someone was home. Your code examples are great and I look forward to this solution and many more of your handy tid-bits. Thanks aLf.

Is it just possible, maybe just maybe that SH is pissed off at UDI and your success of ISY and their failed HouseLinc? I find it VERY frustrating that the piece of the puzzle that your company needs, THE PLM is flawed! Michel, can you guys build your own PLM? Maybe we all can help with Venture Capital. This sucks!

Michel: Maybe you could give me a detailed explanation as to howw I could extract the info when (online) with ISY. If the list of devices is available through one of the pull-downs, maybe I could cut and paste from the excel sheet? Thanks.

Hey Mark, thanks. But I was wondering if you could somehow extract the data from the backup-zip? I'm away from site and wanted to creat something--no internet connection yet unfortunately. aLf

Is there a way to extract the Insteon ID #'s, and the names I've given each switch from the ISY backup? Or is there a way to create the layout if you will of my network with out going into ISY. It would save some typing and time if I could just export the info into a spreadsheet. aLf

Been reading the example codes and had a thought Rather than using the "ALL OFF" scene you guys helped me with, would this work? IF KPL H is ON AND SWITCH 1 IS ON OR SWITCH 2 IS ON OR SWITCH 3 IS ON.... Continuing through all 35 switches, THEN INSTEON SWITCH 1 OFF INSTEON SWITCH 2 OFF INSTEON SWITCH 3 OFF Continuing through all 35 switches and ApplianceLinks. etc. I like the idea that if anyone or anything turned a switch on, it would immediately go out, rather than waiting for the next hourly trigger to turn them all off. Would this work or any other ideas. aLf

Mark: Thanks, but I had some problems a week ago with hanging problems, so i rmoved the follow program. I would like to have it back if possible. There is one good side effect from not having it and that is that if I did have a powere outage and ISY and the system comes up, with an uncalled for power-up of an Insteon switch, Isy will turn all off, but the KPL light will be on telling me of tha particular errant-on! I'd rather have the lights follow though. aLf

Michel: Any updtae on the KPL lights to follow after the "ALL OFF" call? aLf

Is there a limit within ISY to the amount of Programs? Also, with the "all off" call that I have, currently it runs every hour (24 times a day) when not home. Does it, or would it tax ISY memory to run say every 15 minutes (96 times a day)?

Chris, Mark... The mind is the limit with this ISY. If one can dream one can Program. I'm catching on fast and appreciate the continual tutoring. The ISY and this company support is second to none.

I have my ISY setup with a program as follows, "IF" time is between Sunset and 10:30PM, then Insteon "ApplianceLinc" on, else off. I assumed that at anytime outside of that if that particular time, i.e., 2:00PM "ApplianceLinc" was inadvertantly turned on it would immediately turn off. It doesn't! It also doesn't seem to turn on during that spec if I have manually turned it off during "sunset-10:30PM". Am I expecting something that it doesn't do? This would help my "all off" program if it di this. Example. Not home, power outage, ApplianceLinc turns back on with power restore, ISY sees it on and not within Program spec, turns off. Also I have noticed that if I turn off all lights, that ApplianceLinc will turn on after the all off call. I checked the links in ISY and all look good. Sunset data is good. aLf

Michel & Chris. Thank you A BUNCH for all the help over the weekend. My new ISY is up and running perfectly. Next step is the high-speed install and help with the remote function. I'm not there and I hope ISY is keeping an eye on the place for me! Anyone who is reading this and questioning the valueof an ISY, trust me that this little box is unbelievable! It has a ton of functionality and was easier than heck to program (with these two guys help). I fly a 20MM jet and I expected this to take annual recurrent training to figure out. With my making just a few mistakes (OK Michel) maybe more, I had it pretty well mastered in a couple nights. I have NEVER in all my purchases of ANYTHING seen support like this company not only provides but offers willingly. I remmber when the Maglight came out, I though no company would ever have as much to offer. Universal Devices has surpassed that. I can't wait for ISY to provide enough revenue for UD to buy Smarthome.