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Rand: Sorry to have to re-visit this, but... I can't seem to figure out how to add KPL button "C" to a program. All that shows up is KPL "A" on the Insteon List of available items. I'm still confused as to the control/status issue here. For what its worth, I have KPL's that are the original version, in my case V .29. All I'm looking for is a simple way to control a scene that will turn off all. My current way has worked fine up to now. I now will be adding a control line directed to an add on module to control Panasonic cam's that Burakk wrote. If you could give me some direction as to the best way to trigger my all-off scene, I can incorporate the new module program. Thanks, Tim

bjackson: I too utilize ISY and Panasonic cameras. You need to re-configure your camera to non-veiwcam mode. Go back into your setup and remove the config's for any access from the internet. Do not use the veiwcam option. Next set your camera up for a static IP address, use that address in the setup section of the cam. Now go into your Linksys router and set the camera up as TCP and port forward a port of your choice (anything other than ISYs 443). Now go to the DYNDNS.com webpage and set up a dynamic dns account (it's free). Select an easy to remember name for your new dyndns URL. After the account is setup, configure it with a password and username. Go back to the Linksys and apply the option for Dynamic DNS, it will ask for the username and password. Then when your ISP changes your IP, the modem will automaticly send out a "change of address card" to DYNDNS. They claim as long as a half hour to complete, but my history is zero wait time. When you surf to your DYNDNS URL, DYNDNS will redirect you to your cam/ISY network. Your configuration will require a port number for the cam but simply going to your DYNDNS address will go directly to your ISY (port 443). I know it sounds complicated but it works flawless. My old ISP tried talking me into "business class" for $50 amonth more and said there was no way around it. This is a free way around it. PM me if you'd like me to walk you through it. I'd be happy to pay back some of the help on this others have given me.

Mike: I'll try the 20 minute wait! I have always just looked at the flashing and unplugged the Ethernet cable and re-booted. I'll check to see if it comes back on its own. aLf

Tried a different switch. No change. I am in the process of changing ISP's and will get a new router. That may change my problems, we'll see. That said, do you or anyone else have any reccomendations on a very good wireless router. I need quality first then ease of programming as I have several cameras and ISY that need port forwarding. aLf

Mikeb: Thanks. So just to clarify, there is NO problem with an Ac and the PLM power pulgged in at the same time? What is your track record with back-up powering the modem, router and switch? If the house power was off and ISY could not talk with the units anyway would I end up with the same flashing issues? Problem for me is that if I'm not there, I can't re-boot ISY until I come back home. aLf

I too have power outage problems and note that when my switch (not the router) is powered down that ISY loses coomunication unti re-booted. Is it possible to get one of these AC arts and plug it in all the time (in addition to the PLM power) and then have a backup power supply run the AC in the event of power outages? If I simply repower my router ISY is OK, but for some reason the switch repowering causes ISY to go into flashing mode. aLf

burakk: I have (4) HCM-531, (1) HCM-581, (2) HCM-331. Thanks, aLf

burakk: Thanks. If possible, maybe I could get you to write the code and tell me how to do it. Much appreciated. I'm tired of a gazillion e-mail notify's when I drive in the driveway. Much nicer, your way. Maybe Panasonic could learn from you. They've told me there was no way to modify code to do what I'm asking for. Let me know. If I can call you somehow, I'd love to talk about this. PM me with info, if that is OK. Regards, Tim

Right here... Start admin console, open the configuration tab | Networking | Network resources" , I'm guessing that t his area is only available through the web interface (which I don't have, but could get). Then I'd like to know more about the possibilities. My main "wish list" for the Panasonic cam's has been a way to turn triggers on and off all at once. I use motion detect triggers when away and it is very time consuming to go into each cam and activate the triggers. May your ide possibly work here? I do like the idea you have as well. Guess for me it would allow remotely going into ISY turning on a light and getting a picture e-mailed. Let me know the possibilities. Thanks, aLf

Man, you had me and the you lost me! I was there up to, "Start admin console, open the configuration tab | Networking | Network resources" I have several of these cams and wish I understood better what it is you are doing. Thanks, aLf

Is it possible to do an "or" on the APL as well? Would it be a status or control? Was the remainder of my script OK? Tim

Hi Rand: Here is my plan. Tell me if I'm on track. 1) Use my current "ALL OFF" scene, adding the buttons and APL that are in the following scene. 2) Create a "HOMEAWAY"scene with the 2 KPL buttons and the APL in it. 3) Create a program like this. - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Wait 1 minute Set Scene 'HOMEAWAY' Off Set Scene 'ALL OFF' Off Repeat Every 1 hour Set Scene 'ALL OFF' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') 4) Create a program like this, If Status 'HOMEAWAY' is On Then Stop program 'All Off' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') 5) Create another program like this, If Status 'HOMEAWAY' is Off Then Run program 'All Off' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') 6) Set program in line 3 to run at startup. 7) When I come home and push either KPL button, ISY will stop the program, when I push it upon leaving it will run.

Rand: I assume that the "Buttons Off" scene should be the 2 KPL's and the APL only. Set that up and then just call it on or off. Is that right? aLf

Rand: Thanks. I'll try it. What should be run at startup? aLf

************ Rand: I finally got a free minute to try the above. If I include the KPL and APL in the "ALL OFF" scene, I agree that the KPL and APL will stay off. My problem in the past has been that after a power outage, sometimes the KPL button will errantly turn on. If that happens, ISY will see it on and then run the program as though I'm home (no ALL OFF). In the old 26 days, the ALL OFF would just run at reboot and regardless of its original status, it would do what I designed it to. The only hassle was if I was home, I'd have to re-engage it to at home status. What you proposed will work until a power outage turns on a KPL or the APL then ISY will think I'm home and not run the "ALL OFF". Can you think about this and let me know a fail safe work around that will run at startup? Thanks, aLf

Rand: No, nothing else is dependant on it. What I written above is it. That said, could you write an example of what you mean. Keep in mind that when I'm home the KPL's and the APL are "ON" and if the power went out and ISY rebooted, I'd like to see them go to "OFF" and act just as they would if I was "AWAY". The key to the success of this program has been that with my frequent power outages the KPL"s & APL sometimes would not come back on to their old status. Hence the reason why I have three items in the mix. If there is a way (in your mind) to make this fail-safe, I'd appreciate the input Again Thank you. aLf

Rand: I'm not sure. If it runs the "IF" then it should automatically swith the items in IF to those above. I have had the system set for "AT HOME", i.e., KPL's & APL are on, then re-booted ISY 99 and they did not change status, therefore, I'd answer your question as no it is not better for me. What I want is a fail-safe way for ISY to always reboot to this program having the KPL's & APL off and then run the "THEN" feature. If you can think of a better way to do this, I'd appreciate it. For now I think I lost my insurance policy with this program. Thanks, aLf

Just out of curiosity, give an example of how you are denoting the ntp server in ISY. I use the same one for ISY and many cameras and have never had a problem. It may simply be the address. aLf

I recently upgraded from a 26 to a 99. In 26 (old firmware), I had the following program "run at reboot". If ( Status 'GAR KPL H' is Off Or Status 'MBR KPL H' is Off Or Status 'Occupied On/OFF APL' is Off ) Then Repeat Every 1 hour Set Scene 'All OFF' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Regardless of the status of the "IF" items, when you reboot the 26, it wouold go into "All OFF" mode. My new 99 has "run at startup" which I have noted in the program list. When I reboot the 99, it does not go into "All OFF" mode. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, aLf

Rand: Thanks. I intended to do the factory reset on the APL. But beings as though the KPL was still in the scene when I deleted the scene, is it safe that there are no bad links in the KPL button? Actually by the time I got the errant "Sytem Busy" to stop, I was able to re-plug in the APL and then do the proper APL dlete, then scene delete. I'm thinking the final scene delete got both in the scene, and certainly the APL delete shows it gone now. Oh by the way. Is ther a correct way to stop the "Sytem Busy" when and if it ever happens again? What was the true cause of this? Was it the fact that the APL was not plugged in anymore, and I should have nailed the APL before the scene? Thanks, aLf

Rand: I'm glad that no major issues could happen! That said, I wonder if the problem was because one item (the APL) had been unplugged and I tried to remove the scene. In retrospect, I guess I should have plugged the APL in, removed the scene, then removed the APL and then unplugged the APL. The only other item that is still in the system is the KPL button, which I did check afterward and found no links (in ISY). Agian, I learned something here. I think! aLf

Rand: Yes I finally did get it to stop. I was afraid to do anything as the notes say to not change anything while it is working. What I finally did (10 minutes later) was to select a different Insteon light and turn it on and off from the GUI. That stopped the "System Busy". I then went in and removed the APL first, then removed what was left of the scene. It seemed OK when I finished. I'm running 2.7 on a 99i. What does this tell you? What is the risk of stopping the "System Busy" the way I had to? Thanks, aLf

I had a lamplinc that I removed from my system. To clean up ISY, I right moused the scene which contained the LL and a KPL button. I selected remove scene. My system then showed "Request Failed" and the "System Busy" progress bar continues to scroll. I exited ISY and re-entered and the "System Busy" continues. What is happeneing and how do I stop it? All I wanted to do was remove the scene and the Appliancelinc... aLf

Been logging into ISY 99, 2.7, remotely. Today I've gotten a pop-up message that says "Event Recieved for a different Subscription;Restart!" What does that mean? aLf

Just a simple "hows it work" question... I have several fairly elaborate computer programs that arrive at (their) times for sunrise and sunset for an exact Lat/Long, (aviation thing). Each one comes up with a time within 3-4 minutes of each other. ISY included. None of them agree. When you guys programmed ISY, how did you come to the figures that ISY spits out per my Lat/Long? It really doesn't make a hill of beans when you are within a few minutes, I just wonder why a computer algorithm would vary so much from one vendor to the next. Oh and by the way, I have taken my hours and minutes of degrees down to five decimal points. Example, N 42.32.28, W087.51.22 equals, N 42.53800 W087.85367 Again, only an inquiring mind. aLf