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I guess I don't understand what the advantage is to having radios in a Home Automaion Controller. Much the way a better quality stereo will consist of discrete components or a better Loacal Area Network will have separate Router and Wireless Access Points and Switches, so too a quality Home Automation System will have a Controller and separate interfaces, HA Controller= Logic Engine, User Interfaces, Connectivy Channels. Examples=Polisy, Homeseer, Home Assistant. HA Interfaces provide the gateway between the HA Controller and individual HA devices via various HA Protocols. Example=ISY994+PLM, Homeseer Z-Net, Hubitat Hub, Various Lutron Bridges, Hue Bridge, Various Zigbee and Z-Wave sticks, MQTTT, IFTTT, Amazon Echo/Alexa, Google Home, Yolink Low Ra Hub, Elk M1 Security Panel, Brultech Energy Monitor, etc. etc. Some Interfaces are complex enough to do some rudimentary logic or UI but that doesn't make them HA Controllers. HA Devices and Sensors connect to an HA Interface and are at the level that has the most churn and frequent replacement. (Sort of disposable like cell phones) I just don't see any value in combining the Home Aoutomation Hardware layers any more than I would want an ISP combo router = switch = WiFi Radio or a Walmart all-in-one stereo unit.

Hubitat could be thought of as a good Zigbee interface to other systems. It could be used with some sort of Master Home Automation system if that system had something like a Node Server to communicate with it.

One hub to rule them all! I guess the Wink is like a hardware Node Server platform with separate Node Servers to talk to the native hubs for each individual protocol. Novel idea!

Looks like they are still around. https://www.wink.com/products/wink-hub-2/

https://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocumentLibrary/Clear_Connect_Technology_whitepaper.pdf

The Smartlife app will let you code all the automations you need.

Caseta uses Lutron's proprietary "Clear Connect" protocol. Clear Connect Type A uses 434MHz. Clear Connect Type X uses 2.4GHz. I think Caseta uses type A.

The real future is Tuya Smartlife. If you use a voice assistant you are already dependent on the cloud anyway so you might as well get Tuya Smartlife compatible stuff and stop agonizing over all the competing technologies.

Well there must be some way to change the color otherwise there would be no point in using RGB LEDs. Can you write events or progrms or whatever they call them natively within the Nokia hub? Can they be changed based on device triggers or only with schedules?

So how do you actually change the LCD indicator colors? If somebody writes a node server that talks to the Nokia hub could you do it from there?

Does anybody know if the color of the RGB indicator LEDs on the Nokia switches and keypads can be controlled from Alexa? In other words can I use an Alexa command or routine to change the indicator LEDs from white to blue for example?

Harsh but fair.

Well I'm not bored so I guess that makes me... insulted?

I know, right?

I'm not going to make pointless posts just to raise the count! Oh wait...

More than 24 hours without a single post from anyone in a community of the most avid fans Insteon has. If somebody wants definitive proof that Insteon is finished this is it!

Cool. Maybe I'll change it to Michel Kohanim and try that out for awhile.

Will they respond to a query command from the ISY?

I think I kind of like that! Maybe I should look into it.

It will live on as long as Insteon does... so like 2 or 3 more weeks.

Applying this to home automation this is exactly why I have a lot of voice announcements to keep me apprised of what my automation systems are doing. I don't want my Insteon devices taking the house into a death spiral without some warning and a chance to intervene. I never did buy into the idea of "just let the automation system do it's thing without any interaction from the occupants". Just seems that approach has the potential to end badly.

I'm not surprised at all. There is a huge amount of interest in this community in the near term viability of Insteon products and what the loss of those products would do to the future of self driving cars.

Page 39! Let's see if we can hit 40 by the end of the day!

Just got an email from Smarthome listing items that they "hand-picked for me". Most of them are things that are sold out and can't be ordered so... ? Must be some underlying cleverness to their marketing strategy that I am not seeing.

I see there are folks on eBay who are selling remote programming services pretty cheap. Doesn't look like this will be an issue.