Blackbird Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Probably a stupid question but do you still use the existing opener button to open and close or does that get replaced by insteon control. Also, does this kit work with all garage door openers? Thanks
stusviews Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 We use the original garage door remotes, a Homelink controller built into my wife's car, Insteon KPL buttons, a Mini Remote, a RemoteLinc and ISY programs. The kit does not work with all garage door openers. Sometimes, there's a workaround.
paulbates Posted February 22, 2015 Posted February 22, 2015 Blackbird: Probably a stupid question but do you still use the existing opener button to open and close or does that get replaced by insteon control. It can be either / both. The io_linc with the kit will be looking for contacts that connect to, usually where the opener's button is located. You don't disconnect any existing functionality to do this. For inside of the house control, I have insteon scenes associated with a Keypad key that opens and closes the door. The Key is lit when the door is up. If I'm in the garage, I still push the opener's button control Also, does this kit work with all garage door openers? It can depend on the opener. You need to find contacts where the I/O can be connected to cause the open / close action. Here is mine, connected to a Sears Garage door opener. That piece of grey cat 5 wire crosses the opener's contacts and connects to the io linc. If you look at the io_linc page on smart home, the top graphic shows what's intended. You may want to take your opener's wall control down and inspect it, and try crossing contacts that wire to the opener mechanism. Paul
MWareman Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Important to note, there are workarounds needed for many MyQ compatible openers.... If that is the type of opener you have.
Blackbird Posted February 24, 2015 Author Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) Mine is a chamberlain Edited February 24, 2015 by Blackbird
stusviews Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Model #'s of the garage door operator ans the wall unit.
Nestor Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 The OEM wall mount controllers for my opener have additional functions to control the actuator mounted light and to lockout remote control signals, but it was only doing it on two wires. So I hooked up an oscilloscope in between and discovered there is a constant pulse train that changes according which button is depressed. One can still operate the garage doors locally with the wall mount paddlles, regardless of the state of remote-lockout, and hacking the paddles would bypass this function, so I opted to hack one of the visor-mounted remotes with a pair of IOLincs (one for each door). This ensures against the (unlikely, I hope) dreaded "All On" event, and the (more likely) "fat fingered moment" on my iPhone while away from home. YMMV
Xathros Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 The OEM wall mount controllers for my opener have additional functions to control the actuator mounted light and to lockout remote control signals, but it was only doing it on two wires. So I hooked up an oscilloscope in between and discovered there is a constant pulse train that changes according which button is depressed. One can still operate the garage doors locally with the wall mount paddlles, regardless of the state of remote-lockout, and hacking the paddles would bypass this function, so I opted to hack one of the visor-mounted remotes with a pair of IOLincs (one for each door). This ensures against the (unlikely, I hope) dreaded "All On" event, and the (more likely) "fat fingered moment" on my iPhone while away from home. YMMV It seems to me like this would still suffer from an All On if one were to happen on your network. What difference does it make with the IOLinc is connected directly to the opener or to a remote? If the IOLink relay closes unexpectedly, won't the door still actuate? -Xathros
Nestor Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) It seems to me like this would still suffer from an All On if one were to happen on your network. What difference does it make with the IOLinc is connected directly to the opener or to a remote? If the IOLink relay closes unexpectedly, won't the door still actuate? -Xathros When the remote-lockout function is enabled, the garage door will not respond to wireless remote commands, only from the hardwired paddles. Since the IOLincs are connected to a wireless remote, this measure of safety is retained. ETA: when I state "remote-lockout", I mean "lockout of remotes" rather than "lockout from a remote location". Edited February 24, 2015 by Nestor
Xathros Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Ahh. Gotcha. So as long as you remember to lockout the remotes, then an All On won't hit your doors. -Xathros
Nestor Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Ahh. Gotcha. So as long as you remember to lockout the remotes, then an All On won't hit your doors. -Xathros You got it. The opener still acknowledges receipt of the commands, but all it does is blink the actuator mounted lamp. A handy feature during testing, since I could verify operation without having to open up my insulated garage to this frigid Ontario air.
Blackbird Posted February 25, 2015 Author Posted February 25, 2015 Can the garage kit be setup to never remotely open but only close? Outside the normal remote opener
Xathros Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Only send a Relay On when door is Open. In that line of thinking, one could place a normally closed reed switch in series with the IOLinc relay so that the circuit to the relay is broken when the door is closed. -Xathros
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