mangler Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I have an 8 button KPL that has the left buttons assigned to overhead lights or lamps. The right buttons are assigned as controllers for four scenes. Each of the four scenes controls the same 5 lights but have different brightnesses set for "watching TV", "Reading", etc. The scene buttons (right four buttons - B, D, F, H) each are the controller for one of the scenes and they light up when pressed (and the scene fires) or when the scene is tuned on. As expected. EXCEPT ONE! The "D" button fires the scene as expected and ISY reports the button as ON as / when expected, but it won't change from dimly lit to brightly lit. I know it works because it went on when I was messing with LED brightness but it is not driven by the scene. I have tried a bunch including to restore the device, but to no avail. Any thoughts on what I might be missing here? Link to comment
LeeG Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 The button LED turns On under control of the Keypad. Could be a non toggle mode setting for the D button or a Program is turning the D button Off which would not affect the Scene the button turned On. Note that LED Backlight settings apply to all KPL buttons, not just the button on the BackLight command. Link to comment
mangler Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 I cannot find any programs that reference this key - or even this KPL. I don't have a lot of programs yet - only 15 or so. When I trigger the scene from ISY - the button lights - but when I press the button itself it starts the scene - but the button doesn't light. The other buttons linked to a scene also turn the scene off - but this one won't turn it off (it seems to be stuck in a mode where just button D is an on button only. Not a toggle) All 8 buttons were set to "Toggle" - and I tried resetting them all to "Toggle" again. It didn't help. All the other buttons work fine. Link to comment
stusviews Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Click on the scene. What's the On level for button D? Link to comment
Xathros Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Set it to non toggle then set it back. Also check the on level in the scene when the button is selected. -Xathros Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
mangler Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 Stu - the D button is on or off only. No percentage/level. Xathros - I set the KPL to non toggle - and back... No change in behaviour - the light works when the scene is triggered from ISY, but not when triggered from D. I am starting to think I may have a faulty KPL. Is there any way to do a hard reset of this KPL and then I could load it back from the ISY? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment
Xathros Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Pull the Airgap switch on the KPL, wait 10 seconds, push the airgap all the way in and hold it in until the KPL beeps. Then go to the admin console, right click the KPL and select Restore Device. -Xathros Link to comment
stusviews Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Stu - the D button is on or off only. No percentage/level. Sorry, I meant On vs. Off. Link to comment
mangler Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 Yeah - it reads correctly ... ON. But when on it doesn't light when triggered by the button itself ... only when triggered from the scene it is a controller for. Odd. Xathros: I will try that when I get home on Sunday. Thanks! Link to comment
stusviews Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 When you press the button does it blink at all or does it remain dark? Disregard if you factory reset as advised by Xathros and everything works. Link to comment
mangler Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 No blink. I will get the chance for a reset tomorrow night. I will let you know. Thanks for keeping the ideas coming. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment
LeeG Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Suggest running Tools | Diagnostics | Event Viewer at LEVEL 3 during tests. The event trace will show any external Insteon activity that could affect Keypad button. Link to comment
mangler Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 Good suggestion Lee. I don't know why I didn't think of that. Will do when I am home. That, plus a hard reset of the device. Link to comment
mangler Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Well, I performed a hard reset of the KPL and performed "Restore Device". Voila! The D button works fine. Somewhere in messing around with some scenes and programming over time, it had some kind of problem that was solved by a reset. Thanks for the help folks! Link to comment
Xathros Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Excellent! Thanks for posting back with the result. -Xathros Link to comment
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