cps68500 Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 I have 2 motion sensors in our kitchen... (2 for visibility). There are 2 - 3way switches linked together that control the light. The sensors are not linked to the switches nor in any scene with switches, only a single program. I have created a -30m before sunset and -30m after sunrise (next day) to control the kitchen switches(light). This all works great... the switch controls light correctly, the motion senses and turns on the light during the evening times, etc... Here's my question. When leaving the room, sometimes I press the off switch ( weird, I was taught this growing up )... But the motion will catch me leaving the room and turn the light back on. There is a time out on the switch without motion, but was wondering if upon "if switched off" that I could disable the motion for 10 seconds or so to give me time to vacate the motion sensors reach??? TIA Chris
jerlands Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 Hey Chris... This should work... If Control 'Your Switchlinc' is switched Off Then Disable Program 'Your Program' Wait 15 seconds Enable Program 'Your Program' Else Jon...
larryllix Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 I link all my MSes to the lights for faster response. This requires different methods to control all the aspects of dimming and manual override..
cps68500 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Posted September 22, 2015 WOW. I was so stuck on "disabling" the motion detectors that I skipped the obvious! I even have other buttons to disable programs! Thank you for pointing me in the right direction!
jerlands Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 I link all my MSes to the lights for faster response. This requires different methods to control all the aspects of dimming and manual override.. I like the "dusk.dawn" feature to turn lights on/off during overcast days. Jon...
larryllix Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 I like the "dusk.dawn" feature to turn lights on/off during overcast days. Jon... With most of my auto lights I just let them turn on during the day. It may a dark area and I can't be bothered to inflict a third brightness level program switch. With LED bulbs running all day would not be a financial hardship and pointless for energy saving. I just want my 100w equiv. beside my bed dimmed in the middle of the night .
EricK Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) I have 2 motion sensors in our kitchen... (2 for visibility). There are 2 - 3way switches linked together that control the light. The sensors are not linked to the switches nor in any scene with switches, only a single program. I have created a -30m before sunset and -30m after sunrise (next day) to control the kitchen switches(light). This all works great... the switch controls light correctly, the motion senses and turns on the light during the evening times, etc... Here's my question. When leaving the room, sometimes I press the off switch ( weird, I was taught this growing up )... But the motion will catch me leaving the room and turn the light back on. There is a time out on the switch without motion, but was wondering if upon "if switched off" that I could disable the motion for 10 seconds or so to give me time to vacate the motion sensors reach??? TIA Chris This is a bit annoying (light turning back on) and I do not have a good solution for it. In our reconfigured laundry/mudroom this is happening when we leave the house. Probably the thing to do if the lights turn back on is to do nothing since they will turn off in 10 minutes. However, the instinct is there to open the door and turn the lights off again. I recently changed the set up of my motion sensors to eliminate programs in order to try to eliminate the dreaded "all on". Using a program works better and allows more flexibility There really needs to be another setting on the MS. There should be a timer for when the off command is sent and one for lockout. There is an option to set the MS so it will not do anything during the lockout, but that is not what I want. I want to be able to set it so that if it detects motion, then no additional motion detection will occur for say 15 seconds. In addition, once motion is detected, wait 10 minutes before issuing an off command. Any additional motion after the 15 seconds will reset the 10 minute counter. Edited September 22, 2015 by EricK
stusviews Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) If Control 'Controlled Device' is switched Off Then Wait 5 seconds Set 'Controlled Device' Off The program will run only if you manually turn off the switch. If you have a virtual 3-way configuration, you'll need a Control statement for each device and to set the scene Off. Edited September 22, 2015 by stusviews
EricK Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 If Control 'Controlled Device' is switched Off Then Wait 5 seconds Set 'Controlled Device' Off The program will run only if you manually turn off the switch. If you have a virtual 3-way configuration, you'll need a Control statement for each device and to set the scene Off. Stu, good idea, maybe I will implement this. Only issue I see is that if my wife turns the light off by accident then turns them back on manually, or it turns on by motion, then the light will turn back off. Maybe I would need something like this If control is switched off And control is not switched on Then Wait 3 seconds run program 2 If status lights is on Then set scene lights off. This set up would not account for the MS turning the light back on if they are turned off by accident. Meaning the lights would turn off again. Still, setting up programs involving lights controlled by the MS makes me worried about the all on event.
larryllix Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Here is a series of programs I use that do it all. I use a timer override for manual On/Off just in case you forget the automatic lights are locked on in manual. http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/16694-50-latency-question/
EricK Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Thanks Larry, I looked at your program. I'll have to study it for a while this weekend. Eric
larryllix Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Thanks Larry, I looked at your program. I'll have to study it for a while this weekend. Eric Ask when you are ready. The response is fast, dimming levels are variable if set ahead of usage, and manual override works with a failsafe timer, for that "I thought it was auto" assumption that happens.
EricK Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 There were two all on events that occurred today while no one was home. I added waits to some programs. I emailed support and need to call them to exchange my plm. We just finished converting the laundry room to a mudroom with lockers. I have had the ms on one of the locker shelves, not affixed. Just trying to find the best spot. I came home to find the ms turned around, essentiall facing the wall. WAF is low, I think the laundry room has lost its ms.
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