Blackbird Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I was in my porch area when I had an all on event. I've seen others talk of this and I'm not sure if they mean everything turns on or just a scene that has all on all off. I'm my case it turned on a scene that had about 6 lights come on. I do have a motion sensor in the porch that turn on the porch lights and the lights were on. I think it may also have been at the same time the deck lights turned on with a sunset program. I saw that my outside light was on and the 8 button keypad also showed it was on as well as the other lights. The outside light is part of the all on scene. As soon as I pushed the button on the keypad to turn off the outside lights, all the lights went out. Any ideas? Link to comment
jerlands Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 "ALL ON" refers to everything turning on not just one scene. being that the scene seems to be tied to the motion sensor likely it was set off by that. You can look in your logs to see the events, what triggered it and the time. Jon... Link to comment
Blackbird Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 Has anyone had a garage door open from an all on event? Link to comment
Blackbird Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 how do you prevent this? Is there a fix? Link to comment
bipto Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Best approach would be to read available info, understand the scenarios where others have seen this happen, and determine whether your particular setup could present / support these conditions. No "fix" per se, but there are programming techniques to minimize / eliminate risk. Keep in mind that many, if not most, have never seen one of these events. Forum thread... http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/10516-random-all-on-event/page-1 Wiki info... http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=INSTEON_Random_All_On_Events Link to comment
LeeG Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 bipto information is so very good. Need to understand why I/O Linc Relay activated the garage door movement before thinking about a fix. Many of these events have nothing to do with an All On, which you did not have. An Event Trace at LEVEL 3 taken when door moves unexpectedly will offer good info as to why and how to fix/bypass. Link to comment
tmorse305 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I just got home to find the vast majority of my lights and and both garage doors open. Very unsettling to say the least. I have had many Insteon devices in use for years with other controllers and never had this problem. Then I find this thread where Blackbird had a similar problem today. Does the "All On" command also trigger I/O Link devices? Link to comment
Blackbird Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 I'm tempted to disable the ability to open and close the garage and just get notifications when it's opened Link to comment
MWareman Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 how do you prevent this? Is there a fix?Yes. Don't use an iolinc for garage door control. I use an input and output on my Elk, with the added bonus that the sensor triggers my alarm entry delay. Link to comment
Blackbird Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 Yes. Don't use an iolinc for garage door control. I use an input and output on my Elk, with the added bonus that the sensor triggers my alarm entry delay. whats the difference? Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 whats the difference?Elk is non-Insteon, hardwired control system, that communicates with ISY. It is felt that ISY does not issue an Insteon All-On signal but rather two signals get bit-confused and devices only interpret it that way. This would be an Insteon thing only. Link to comment
bipto Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 whats the difference?The ELK output will not respond to a random All-On event... Link to comment
MWareman Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 The ELK output will not respond to a random All-On event...This... I actually bought the Elk io expander so I can start replacing several iolincs for more critical control (I have a water shutoff valve, for instance). Also, newer Insteon devices won't respond to the perceived reception of an 'All On' signal anymore, but that doesn't help those of us with extensive number of older devices. If only Smarthome allowed reflashing firmware.... Link to comment
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