API - arm vs disarm

[James Peterson]

Since ArmType "0" = Disarm

 

is area/X/cmd/arm?armType=0&code=XXXX

equivalent to area/X/cmd/disarm?code=XXXX 

 

Or do they perform different tasks in some way?

 

[James Peterson]

ping?

[G W]

I think no one knows the answer.

 

I have asked this on the Elk support forum.

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[larryllix]

Strange I typically read almost everything on the forum and this is the first I saw of this thread.

[G W]

Strange I typically read almost everything on the forum and this is the first I saw of this thread.

You were mowing grass that day.

 

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[G W]

This appears to be the API from Universal Devices so the ISY can send signals to the M1. Please contact Universal Devices Tech Support for confirmation on the string.

[Charlie_Morlock]

I SUSPECT the answer is yes, since the Elk M1 RS-232 protocol does not have separate commands for arm and disarm. There is 1 command for both arm and disarm, which takes a parameter to specify what arm state to set it to. If the parameter = 0 it will disarm the elk.

 

Again, my SUSPICION is based on what I know about Elk, not based on any knowledge of how the isy Elk module works.

 

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[MWareman]

I SUSPECT the answer is yes, since the Elk M1 RS-232 protocol does not have separate commands for arm and disarm. There is 1 command for both arm and disarm, which takes a parameter to specify what arm state to set it to. If the parameter = 0 it will disarm the elk.

 

Again, my SUSPICION is based on what I know about Elk, not based on any knowledge of how the isy Elk module works.

 

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The API of the ISY seperate it out, and provides two apparent methods to disarm. I use the discrete disarm command in my app, and it works flawlessly. I've not tried the type 0 arm command.... I suspect there may be differences depending on the Elk firmware of the various components...

[Charlie_Morlock]

Elk has been incredibly consistent with the RS-232 protocol over the years versions. I used some perl modules that were written over a decade ago that I only had to add new commands to -- all of the other code, including the arm/disarm command has not changed since the first release of the docs.

 

I can't locate a public version of the doc, but will continue to search.

 

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[MWareman]

We are talking about the http API to the ISY Elk module, not the serial protocol used by the M1.

[G W]

We are talking about the http API to the ISY Elk module, not the serial protocol used by the M1.

It's pretty much the same thing as that's how the ISY communicates with the Elk.

 

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[James Peterson]

It's pretty much the same thing as that's how the ISY communicates with the Elk.

 

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I'd be nice to know for sure.  Thanks everyone for your suggestions.  I'll just default to the disarm.

[G W]

I'd be nice to know for sure. Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I'll just default to the disarm.

Let's hope Michel will answer soon.

 

 

 

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[MWareman]

It's pretty much the same thing as that's how the ISY communicates with the Elk.

 

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Not really.

 

The M1 expects a binary string, and the ISY is a REST API. The question presented is does 'armType=0' equal 'disarm' when sent thru the REST API. What's the difference? Does it have different meaning when the ISY has translated it into the binary string to send to the M1.

 

It's valid (and helpful) to know that it is thought that there is only one disarm command in the serial API - but the specific strings sent to the serial port of the M1 via the M1XEP are *very* different to the API commands sent to ISY.

 

I guess I could sniff the traffic and see - compare the two ISY API commands to see if they generate different strings to the M1XEP.

[G W]

I wonder why there isn't a RAW function. That would simplify a lot. Then we could use the new Elk commands.

 

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[MWareman]

I wonder why there isn't a RAW function. That would simplify a lot. Then we could use the new Elk commands.

 

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You can always use the network module and send commands to the M1XEP. It's documented somewhere, from when people were figuring it out pre-Elk module.

[Michel Kohanim]

Hello all,

 

Everything you can do with ELK is already defined ISY-WS-SDK-ELK (in the current WSDK). As such, I am not so sure what I'd be answering since that's the official API for ISY/ELK.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[G W]

 

 

Hello all,

 

Everything you can do with ELK is already defined ISY-WS-SDK-ELK (in the current WSDK). As such, I am not so sure what I'd be answering since that's the official API for ISY/ELK.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

Michel;

 

Since ArmType "0" = Disarm

 

is area/X/cmd/arm?armType=0&code=XXXX

equivalent to area/X/cmd/disarm?code=XXXX

 

Or do they perform different tasks in some way?

 

 

 

B.R.I.A.D.A.

Best regards,

Gary Funk

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi Gary,

 

It should be the same:

http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY_Developers:API:REST_Interface#ELK_Integration

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[G W]

Hi Gary,

 

It should be the same:

http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY_Developers:API:REST_Interface#ELK_Integration

 

With kind regards,

Michel

Thank you, Michel.

 

We expected so but one never knows what magic you do behind the curtain.

 

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