Teken Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 No. I'm Gary Funk and I approved this message. You're just grasping at straws here . . . In your mind what exactly are the basic differences if not to measure environmentals?!? Link to comment
G W Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) You're just grasping at straws here . . . In your mind what exactly are the basic differences if not to measure environmentals?!? One measures only 1 item and the other measures several items. And I'm not grasping at anything. Just stating facts. I'm Gary Funk and I approved this message. Edited November 30, 2016 by GaryFunk Link to comment
Teken Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Very strange. Let's satisfy both arguments with a DS18B20 1-wire sensor into the provided input on the bottom of the CAO Reed Tag see post #5. There is a reason the OP and you have installed a ventilation fan in your attic. There is also a reason some placed electronics in their cooled attic space to monitor it. BTW: your momma looked OK to me. I don't follow what you mean about the use of a attic fan. Link to comment
G W Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I don't follow what you mean about the use of a attic fan. AN attic fan. Easier said THAN. I'm Gary Funk and I approved this message. Link to comment
Teken Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 One measures only 1 item and the other measures several items. And I'm not grasping at anything. Just stating facts. I'm Gary Funk and I approved this message. Oh I follow kind of like jack of all trades master of none. ultimately the choice is the OP's and anyone who understands no one uses these tags in any serious industry vs 1 wire. That is a fact . . . Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) I don't follow what you mean about the use of a attic fan. If it never gets that hot in a person's attic, why did you spend the money to install an attic fan? also Attics shouldn't get hot enough to destroy electronics after a properly running attic ventilator is functioning. What happens when it fails? Do we now replace both? You can't make a claim that attics never get hot enough to ruin electronics based on your own attic with a ventilation fan running for a reason. Edited November 30, 2016 by larryllix Link to comment
G W Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Oh I follow kind of like jack of all trades master of none. ultimately the choice is the OP's and anyone who understands no one uses these tags in any serious industry vs 1 wire. That is a fact . . . No argument on that. You based an agreement on price. I'm Gary Funk and I approved this message. Link to comment
Teken Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 If it never gets that hot in a person's attic, why did you spend the money to install an attic fan? also Attics shouldn't get hot enough to destroy electronics after a properly running attic ventilator is functioning. What happens when it fails? Do we now replace both? First as a proof of concept - next to reduce cooling costs due to thermal heat soaking. It had nothing to do with electronics in the attic this is all driven by my goal of reaching a NET Zero Passive Hause state. Regardless of how much active / passive cooling is in a attic you can't fight thermal dynamics and Mother Nature. Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) The Tags are much easier and cheaper to set up and have native charting provided for them and the CAO Reed Tag takes a 1-wire sensor to accommodate the possible heat with the Tag mounted in a cooler space. Just fasten a DS18B20 to a truss or "...beam me up Scotty!" Ohhh you thought I was talking to you? OP walks away shaking his head, never to come back again... Edited November 30, 2016 by larryllix 1 Link to comment
Teken Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 No argument on that. You based an agreement on price. I'm Gary Funk and I approved this message. I'm not sure that would be the apt phrase I would use vs short term gain. Over long term investment with almost zero out of pocket expense using a 1 wire system after a properly executed install. Link to comment
Teken Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 The Tags are much easier and cheaper to set up and have native charting provided for them and the CAO Reed Tag takes a 1-wire sensor to accommodate the possible heat with the Tag mounted in a cooler space. Just fasten a DS18B20 to a truss or "...beam me up Scotty!" Ohhh you thought I was talking to you? As I noted up above those are all great pros of the tag system. LOL - I thought your comment was directed toward me! Use the quote feature damn it! Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) As I noted up above those are all great pros of the tag system. LOL - I thought your comment was directed toward me! Use the quote feature damn it! This has been a fine example of network data collisions, exemplified by a forum analogue. Who the heck is emoji35, emoji13? Edited November 30, 2016 by larryllix Link to comment
Teken Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 This has been a fine example of network data collisions, exemplified by a forum analogue. Who the heck is emoji35, emoji13? LOL - I'm going back to my project now! Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 LOL - I'm going back to my project now! All that and Scotty hasn't even got out of bed yet. emoji6976, emoji10567...whatever 1 Link to comment
Scottmichaelj Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) I'm just the guy who throws the boulder in the puddle to watch the ripples. OP wanted Humidity, Temp and Charts. I gave my opinion then we got the typical Teken rant as expected. I just dropped the mic and walked out. Lol Just busting your chops TPain! Edited December 1, 2016 by Scottmichaelj Link to comment
larryllix Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) I'm just the guy who throws the boulder in the puddle to watch the ripples. OP wanted Humidity, Temp and Charts. I gave my opinion then we got the typical Teken rant as expected. I just dropped the mic and walked out. Lol Just busting your chops TPain!I was counting Teken's words. It twern't no rant! I hope that wasn't a typo just before the emoji. Edited December 1, 2016 by larryllix Link to comment
GSpitale01 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 How do you get the data from the wireless tag sensor to the ISY? Link to comment
Scottmichaelj Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 How do you get the data from the wireless tag sensor to the ISY? Look at the CAO wireless tag thread. You will install a "KumoApp" which is basically a script that you copy paste to the tag manager site. Link to comment
smokegrub Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 At the risk of suffering unnecessarily, I must report on experimention with the Cao tags and a tag manager for a few weeks. I am impressed with these tiny devices. They are inexpensive and they do some amazing (for me) things. They have given me an easy way to be notified of postal mail delivery, humidity under my home and a backup device to report temperature from a remote location where I currently use a wireless Inseon thermostat (unreliable) for that task. I plan to use one in my attic this summer. I currently use an Insteon water sensor in an AC drip pan located in the attic and it has performed flawlessly in those temperatures. The setup of the tags is astoundingly simple. Are there more robust long-term solutions? Sure, but not everyone has the technological expertise nor the physical ability to install or manage those alternatives. For me the tags appear to be an ideal solution. I say go with whatever floats your boat. Link to comment
Bumbershoot Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 How do you get the data from the wireless tag sensor to the ISY? I'm in the process of getting this set up. The easiest method (so far) has been to use the "Custom URL Calling" feature of the tags. Here's a link to the post that at least partially explains how I got them to work. Link to comment
larryllix Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) I'm in the process of getting this set up. The easiest method (so far) has been to use the "Custom URL Calling" feature of the tags. Here's a link to the post that at least partially explains how I got them to work.I prefer the logic capability of the ISY and central control of all my data and logic. eg. If ....Tag1.humidity >= 50% AND ....Tag1.Temperature < 20.0C AND ....from 9:00 AM ....to 4:30 PM (same day) Then ....run ventilation I don't think this and many other logics can be done without ISY being in control. I could just have bought a SH Hub for that Edited March 24, 2017 by larryllix 1 Link to comment
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