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Everytime i try and access the main consol i get that message. Tried the consol link saved on desktop and it freezes my pc. Is there any way isy is moving away from this platform. Its really annoying that i cant access isy. This is on a windows 10 machine tht i had no problems using before.

 

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We are told that Yes - ISY management is moving away from Java. It will likely take a while - likely in the order of years.

 

That being said, I use Win 10, hate Java yet I use my ISY admin console all the time without issue. We need to debug what's wrong with your system to figure out your trouble. You'll be needing Java for a while to come...

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Hello all,

 

I would not say "order of years" ... this is something very important and high priority on our list.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

 

Thanks for your continued commitment to making this a high priority.

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Everytime i try and access the main consol i get that message. Tried the consol link saved on desktop and it freezes my pc. Is there any way isy is moving away from this platform. Its really annoying that i cant access isy. This is on a windows 10 machine tht i had no problems using before.

 

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What version of the ISY firmware and UI are you using?

What version of Java are you using?

 

What message do you get?

 

I'm also running Windows 10 and have no issues accessing the Admin Console using the Java app.

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Hello all,

 

I would not say "order of years" ... this is something very important and high priority on our list.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

Didn't mean to over estimate! Apologies...

 

I, for one, am *very* excited about the impending demise of Java on my machines...

 

:)

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What version of the ISY firmware and UI are you using?

What version of Java are you using?

 

What message do you get?

 

I'm also running Windows 10 and have no issues accessing the Admin Console using the Java app.

Just updated my isy about 3 4 weeks ago, updated the java when i got the java2+ message.

 

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Jav 8 update 111

 

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After updating Java and the ISY did you clear out your Java cache, including deleting applications, then download a new version of the admin app to match the ISY firmware?

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Yes did tht. Just uninstalled java and re installed. Used internet explorer and now it works. Thx everyone, cant wait to get away from java

 

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Just use the admin console standalone. I don't consider it safe to enable Java in web browsers, and neither do most of the browser makers.

 

Yes, you can limit it to specific sites. If you remember to do that.

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Just use the admin console standalone. I don't consider it safe to enable Java in web browsers, and neither do most of the browser makers.

 

Yes, you can limit it to specific sites. If you remember to do that.

Did that with the shortcut and it kept locking up my machine.

 

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Hi diggler,

 

What do you mean by "locking up my machine"? Could it be related to any of the following?

http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page#Admin_Console_Hangs

http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page#Admin_Console_Minimized.2FInvisible_and_Cannot_be_Restored

 

With kind regards,

Michel

Crtl alt del wont get me to task manager or reboot. It gets completely frozen to were i have to hold down power button to turn off.

 

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Crtl alt del wont get me to task manager or reboot. It gets completely frozen to were i have to hold down power button to turn off.

 

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Sounds like the sort of symptom I had when I had my CPU overclocked.
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With v5.0.7 I had my win 7 x 32 laptop lock up many times without any method to escape or abort the admin console.

 

Roughly about 6 or 7 times I had to use <cntl><alt><del> to get to the task manager to kill the process before I could gain control of the OS again.

 

I haven't seen it with v5.0.8 yet but I haven't used it much. I haven't seen it lock up, re-login request, hang, blank out the icons at the top, or completely lock up the process yet, even once.

 

 

java version 8 build 111 loaded Dec 25, 2016 currently.

 

Tonight I had my program load time exceed the java session timeout time and my login credentials were again requested before it could load the programs and variables. It's getting non-functional on slower computers.

After a second login the admin console cannot be trusted and needs to be rebooted starting the failure cycle over again.

 

This is a java problem. In the last few years java has become so slow it makes some machine useless.

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With v5.0.7 I had my win 7 x 32 laptop lock up many times without any method to escape or abort the admin console.

 

Roughly about 6 or 7 times I had to use <cntl><alt><del> to get to the task manager to kill the process before I could gain control of the OS again.

 

I haven't seen it with v5.0.8 yet but I haven't used it much. I haven't seen it lock up, re-login request, hang, blank out the icons at the top, or completely lock up the process yet, even once.

 

 

java version 8 build 111 loaded Dec 25, 2016 currently.

 

Tonight I had my program load time exceed the java session timeout time and my login credentials were again requested before it could load the programs and variables. It's getting non-functional on slower computers.

After a second login the admin console cannot be trusted and needs to be rebooted starting the failure cycle over again.

 

This is a java problem. In the last few years java has become so slow it makes some machine useless.

You mean you have issues like this?

 

b1d51545345edc8b20ec33c4ea10eecd.jpg

 

Left the admin console open overnight on my Windows 7 machine and in the morning everything is crawling slow to open and my memory is maxed out. Using the admin.jsp - Yeah Java! Who ever decided this was a good biz decision to rely their products on should be fired. Hopefully the same mistake won't be made again.

 

Edit: For those who don't know that's 13GBs of memory used OVERNIGHT!

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Hi diggler,

 

If you are still having these issues, please do not hesitate to contact our tech support. We'd be delighted to help you.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

I got it up and running, its just getting old real fast if i have to rely on java with this issue.

 

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You mean you have issues like this?

 

b1d51545345edc8b20ec33c4ea10eecd.jpg

 

Left the admin console open overnight on my Windows 7 machine and in the morning everything is crawling slow to open and my memory is maxed out. Using the admin.jsp - Yeah Java! Who ever decided this was a good biz decision to rely their products on shouldn't be fired. Hopefully the same mistake won't be made again.

 

Edit: For those who don't know that's 13GBs of memory used OVERNIGHT!

Oh. I have issues but not like yours, so far.

 

....................mind moving away some? :)

 

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Oh. I have issues but not like yours, so far.

 

....................mind moving away some? :)

 

Sent from a tiny keyboard. Response may be brief.

And oh do I have many issues! lol but to be honest you have your fair share!

 

Edit: #AdHominem attack!

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