sanders2222 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Is there any update on using the ISY remotely to arm the ELK in Away or Vacation mode? Last I tried to sort this out an entry door needs to open/close after arming or the ELK will default to Armed Stay. If you are away from home, that only leaves the option to arm Stay mode. Using variables, I created a workaround to allow different programing options for the different armed statuses, but I would like it if these could sync with the correct arm status on the ELK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanatar Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I'm doing this now. There is an option in the ElkRP software that you may need to change to disable the Elk changing to stay mode. It is under Area>Arming Options>Auto Stay Mode after exit time if no violation. I use Locative to auto arm the alarm to Away mode when all of us leave the house. (I do NOT use it to disarm the house) It's been in operation for a while now and has never missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrojanHorse Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 That is a feature that I believe can be disabled (at least I looked into it for away mode). The idea is that if an inexperienced user or other accidentally pushes the away button but wasn't leaving it will default to stay mode. Is that a feature you want keep while at home? Could maybe be changed programmatically / remotely? I can look at manual later. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanders2222 Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 I'm doing this now. There is an option in the ElkRP software that you may need to change to disable the Elk changing to stay mode. Thanks for that feedback. This is not a feature I was even away of. Is that a feature you want keep while at home? Could maybe be changed programmatically / remotely? I can look at manual later. It is kind of a neat feature to have if we are home. Otherwise that introduces false alarms when a monitored interior door (e.g. to our garage) is opened. But not sure the ISY would have the ability to change this ELK feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrojanHorse Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I think you will need to decide if you want that feature enabled or not. I did not see a way to have Elk change this using its built-in automation rules. That would have allowed the ISY to trigger the rule, but it doesn't appear that's an option. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottmichaelj Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Thanks for that feedback. This is not a feature I was even away of. It is kind of a neat feature to have if we are home. Otherwise that introduces false alarms when a monitored interior door (e.g. to our garage) is opened. But not sure the ISY would have the ability to change this ELK feature. Could always change the door zone definition so stay doesn't trigger it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolakisl Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 You could always hook up a zone to a relay, define that zone as an entry door, then upon remote arming, use a program to have that relay open/close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrojanHorse Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 You could always hook up a zone to a relay, define that zone as an entry door, then upon remote arming, use a program to have that relay open/close. Clever. Would you envision the user goes through a 2 step process to arm then run the program, or does the Elk somehow know if it's been armed remotely? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolakisl Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Clever. Would you envision the user goes through a 2 step process to arm then run the program, or does the Elk somehow know if it's been armed remotely? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Assuming you are using ISY to accept the remote trigger, then have an ISY program first arm Elk, then wait a few seconds, and then it switches the relay on/off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisC Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I'm not clear on why you are having this problem. What are you using to try and arm the Elk remotely? The ISY has a built in app that can be used, there are a few mobil apps that will work, depending on which mobil platform you are on, or a rest message can be sent. I am on Android and use both Agave and Home Alarm, both developed by forum members and work without issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolakisl Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I'm not clear on why you are having this problem. What are you using to try and arm the Elk remotely? The ISY has a built in app that can be used, there are a few mobil apps that will work, depending on which mobil platform you are on, or a rest message can be sent. I am on Android and use both Agave and Home Alarm, both developed by forum members and work without issues. He says his system doesn't arm away unless he opens a door. I don't have that problem. If I hit "arm away" on Agave, the system arms to away mode, regardless whether I open any doors. At least it says "armed away" on my keypads in the house. I didn't test out the motion sensors and stuff, really didn't feel like setting off the sirens and getting a call from CS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisC Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 He says his system doesn't arm away unless he opens a door. I don't have that problem. If I hit "arm away" on Agave, the system arms to away mode, regardless whether I open any doors. At least it says "armed away" on my keypads in the house. I didn't test out the motion sensors and stuff, really didn't feel like setting off the sirens and getting a call from CS. I understand this, that's why I am asking for clarification. My system works just like you are describing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWareman Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I think OP has this setting enabled... It needs to be turned off to allow 'Arming Away' without then having to open/close an exit zone... Not sure if the ISY can override this setting (it's off by default I believe - so OP likely turned it on during setup of the Elk system).. (This is a setting in the ElkRP software - it can be configured from the keypad as well.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikek Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I'm having the same problem - not able to arm the M1 using Agave. I looked at the "auto stay mode" setting as MWareman suggested above and it was already unchecked. Any other ideas what might be preventing Agave from arming? When I try to arm using Agave, I do the long press as required, and I get the "Update Succeeded" message, but the M1 doesn't arm and Agave still says "Disarmed - Ready to Arm". Keypad arming works just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWareman Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I'm having the same problem - not able to arm the M1 using Agave. I looked at the "auto stay mode" setting as MWareman suggested above and it was already unchecked. Any other ideas what might be preventing Agave from arming? When I try to arm using Agave, I do the long press as required, and I get the "Update Succeeded" message, but the M1 doesn't arm and Agave still says "Disarmed - Ready to Arm". Keypad arming works just fine. You will need to start by figuring out if it’s an Agave/ISY or an ISY/Elk issue...Can you arm/disarm from the ISY Admin console? Does Arming need a code? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisC Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 20 hours ago, mikek said: I'm having the same problem - not able to arm the M1 using Agave. I looked at the "auto stay mode" setting as MWareman suggested above and it was already unchecked. Any other ideas what might be preventing Agave from arming? When I try to arm using Agave, I do the long press as required, and I get the "Update Succeeded" message, but the M1 doesn't arm and Agave still says "Disarmed - Ready to Arm". Keypad arming works just fine. Just to be clear, when you say you are doing the long press, are you long pressing the larger Elk shield in middle of the screen? When you release the shield the screen should change to the type of arming you would like to perform, ie - Vacation, Away, Night ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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