Michel Kohanim Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Hi Andy, Forecast is not included in WB parameters. It's a different API call which we have not yet implemented. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
Stik Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Any plans to implement in the future? Thanks, Andy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Hi Andy, Yes, but low priority. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
JMC Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Yesterday's rain was being logged by WB until around 3p.m. when my ISY (watching KAUN) suddenly showed Rain Today: 0. I checked other stations in this area and they all showed 0 even though we had well over 0.25" at the time. Needless to say that messed up the ISY's calculations for irrigation requirement. Yesterday was the first time in quite a while I've had occasion to pay attention to rainfall on my ISY, mostly because it was the first rainfall we've had for a looong time. Has anyone else noticed anything similar? mike Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Hi Mike, Yes, another user in California had the same issue. I didn't (I am in California as well). With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
Panda88 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I must have had a reset as well - the reported rain was about 1/10 of actual - in Bay Area Link to comment
JMC Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I've been watching the Rain Today: value quite a bit today as well. At 9a.m. it was .04", at 10a.m. it was .01" and at 1p.m. it was .18". We'll see what happens for the remainder of today. mike Link to comment
TJF1960 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Same weird rain today reporting for me as well. An hour ago ISY showed .6" rain today from KBAB (which seemed low for today). I changed station to KLHN and KAUN to see if the rain reported was any different. ISY reported 0" for both. Changed back to KBAB (the original station) and ISY is now reporting 0 inches. Just checked again and its still 0 inches. Thanks, Tim edit. just checked the wb feed website and rain today shows N/A whereas KLHN is showing 0.00 inches. Must be WB issue...still. Link to comment
JMC Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 KAUN is showing 0 now also. I got busy and didn't catch the exact time of the change. Over the last 2 days WB has caused my ISY to miss around an inch of rainfall. mike Link to comment
IndyMike Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Tim and Mike, I switched my ISY to log data from KUAN. A partial listing of the log is shown below. The yellow items are "anomalies": 1) Low temperature - should never increase during a given day 2) Light: Station suddenly began transmitting light data (more on this below). 3) Rain today: should never decrease during a given day. 4) Elevation - obviously should not change unless KAUN suddenly became mobile. Did I miss an earthquake in your area? The issue is Weatherbug switching stations in an attempt to provide a continuous data stream. I do not know the conditions that cause the switch. I suspect the station at 130' elevation is McClellen AFB in Sacramento. In short, I do not know how to prevent this other than finding a "very reliable station". Reliable is very misleading in this sense. The local airports in my area are not reliable in a Weatherbug sense. I believe they get overloaded with requests at some points and cause wetherbug to re-vector to an available station. I wound up switching to a backyard station a mile up the road. It's not NWS certified, but weatherbug has not switched away from this station in over 8 months. Note - times shown below are Eastern. Subtract 3 hours for your local time Link to comment
JMC Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 IndyMike, No earthquake in this area. I suspect the station at 30' elevation is Sacramento Int'l Airport (KSMF) and the one at 121' is in Lincoln (KLHM). The data in your log tracks very well with what I've been seeing. BTW, how do you set the ISY to log that data? mike Link to comment
IndyMike Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Mike, Glad to hear there's no shaking going on there. I have relatives, friends, and co-workers spread all along the fault lines. I use the network module to log data to the ISY whenever there is a change in the weatherbug data. This comes in extremely handy for back-checking when things don't seem correct. The file itself is a comma separated text file (.csv) that I download directly to Excel. Link to comment
Panda88 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Do we understand what happens at 2/8 around 8pm - it is like rain is reset - but it does not happen the day after Chris Tim and Mike, I switched my ISY to log data from KUAN. A partial listing of the log is shown below. The yellow items are "anomalies": 1) Low temperature - should never increase during a given day 2) Light: Station suddenly began transmitting light data (more on this below). 3) Rain today: should never decrease during a given day. 4) Elevation - obviously should not change unless KAUN suddenly became mobile. Did I miss an earthquake in your area? The issue is Weatherbug switching stations in an attempt to provide a continuous data stream. I do not know the conditions that cause the switch. I suspect the station at 130' elevation is McClellen AFB in Sacramento. In short, I do not know how to prevent this other than finding a "very reliable station". Reliable is very misleading in this sense. The local airports in my area are not reliable in a Weatherbug sense. I believe they get overloaded with requests at some points and cause wetherbug to re-vector to an available station. I wound up switching to a backyard station a mile up the road. It's not NWS certified, but weatherbug has not switched away from this station in over 8 months. Note - times shown below are Eastern. Subtract 3 hours for your local time Link to comment
IndyMike Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Do we understand what happens at 2/8 around 8pm - it is like rain is reset - but it does not happen the day after The rain didn't get reset - Weatherbug switched to another station that hadn't received any rain. When Weatherbug switched back to station KAUN the rain tabulation continued normally (no loss of data after it returned). As I explained, I do not know what causes Weatherbug to switch stations. I can say that when I use a local "backyard station", it does not switch. Link to comment
Panda88 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I am referring to a later switch between 19:02 and 20:12. It seems rain count is reset - I normally assume that the rain count is reset @ midnight, but here it seems to be much earlier - thus I get wrong rain count Am I missing something? Chris Link to comment
IndyMike Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I am referring to a later switch between 19:02 and 20:12. It seems rain count is reset - I normally assume that the rain count is reset @ midnight, but here it seems to be much earlier - thus I get wrong rain count Am I missing something? Chris Nope - I was. The times are my local times (Indiana-East). Somehow I made myself believe that the 20:12 reset was due to the midnight reset. Not even close. Weatherunderground data from the same station shows rain continued through midnight. Sorry, no good explanations from my end. Link to comment
JMC Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I don't have the Network module so that explains why I wasn't able to grab a similar table. Incidentally, sometime this afternoon, after logging almost an inch of rain, WB is again showing 0 rainfall. If this continues then I might as well shut my irrigation programs down until soil moisture is down enough to call for irrigation again because if I allow them to run I'm going to be applying water in the midst of a pineapple express (local name for heavy warm rainfall coming in from the general direction of Hawaii). IndiMike, do you have more information on that weather station you have mentioned? mike Link to comment
IndyMike Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I don not know what is causing the dropouts, but they appear to be occurring at a specific time. For the last 3 days Weatherbug has been dropping the KAUN precipitation to 0 around 16:00 Pacific Time. The same KAUN feed on Weatherunderground is intact. Link to comment
JMC Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 That graph tracks my experience pretty well. Needless to say it negates use of the Irrigation module completely, least until the rainy season has passed. Now about that backyard station you mentioned... I'm not adverse to buying something like that as long I can be certain that it will communicate with the ISY seamlessly. Obviously I would prefer a solution using my own moisture sensors reporting to the ISY but that doesn't seem to be in the immediate future. mike Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Hi Mike, I totally agree. As far as sensors, with the inclusion of Z-Wave, there are many more options available for sensors. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
JMC Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 This afternoon just before I left the house at 3:55pm KAUN was showing a total of 0.65" of rain. When I returned at 9:55pm KAUN was showing a total of 0" of rain. Evidently WB does not intend to allow devices to collect a complete day's rainfall data, at least from any of the stations in my area, which basically means that the irrigation module is useless until after the rainy season is over, becoming useful in areas such as mine where there are extended periods without rainfall while being marginal to useless in areas that have measurable rainfall throughout the year. Michel: evidently I've not been searching properly because I sure can't find any particulars on battery powered Z-wave moisture sensors. Any suggestions? mike Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Hi Mike, I am so very sorry to hear. Please note that if you wish, you can definitely request a refund for the irrigation module. I haven't seen any Z-Wave moisture sensors. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
Panda88 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 would it be possible to use an alternative to weatherbug - there are several other options Link to comment
JMC Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Michel: I won't be requesting a refund. The system is useful for most of the year where I am and only fails when we have significant rain. I'm just frustrated that WB evidently decided to contaminate their data. lmike Link to comment
IndyMike Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Michel: I won't be requesting a refund. The system is useful for most of the year where I am and only fails when we have significant rain. I'm just frustrated that WB evidently decided to contaminate their data. lmike Mike, Weatherbug appears to be having problems with data from the Airport stations. The feeds from the local Schools and backyard stations (still verifying) appears good. Please try switching to a School in your area. I'll post some data this weekend. Link to comment
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