G W Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Will we ever have commands based on the room? Example. An Echo in Room 1, Room 2 and Room 3. Room 1: The Echo in the room has "Lights" is set to control lamp A and Lamp B. Room 2: The Echo in the room has "Lights" is set to control lamp C. Room 3: The Echo in the room has "Lights" is set to control dimmer F. I go into Room 2 and say "Alex, Lights on. And the Echo in Room 2 turns on lamp C. The Echos in Room 1 and Room 3 do nothing. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment
ahwman Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 The new Smart Home skill is developed. At this point, we are entirely dependent on Amazon. It may take a while still. Benoit Bummer. Hoping for sooner rather than later . Thanks for all of your hard work! Chuck Link to comment
bmercier Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Will we ever have commands based on the room? Example. An Echo in Room 1, Room 2 and Room 3. Room 1: The Echo in the room has "Lights" is set to control lamp A and Lamp B. Room 2: The Echo in the room has "Lights" is set to control lamp C. Room 3: The Echo in the room has "Lights" is set to control dimmer F. I go into Room 2 and say "Alex, Lights on. And the Echo in Room 2 turns on lamp C. The Echos in Room 1 and Room 3 do nothing. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk I'm not aware of any Amazon plans to facilitate this. Each echo can have the skill linked to an ISY Portal user profile, which can be different. So today, the only way to achieve this is to have sub-accounts, with each having a user profile used by each echo. Note that in V3, account linking is simplified. When you enable the skill, you link directly to an ISY Portal profile, not an amazon account. So, to support multi-room, you no longer need to have multiple amazon accounts. Benoit Link to comment
larryllix Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Looks like the amazon webpage Alexa access has been locked out to Canadian IP addresses again. It will not take a login anymore. The account name and password can be filled in but all buttons and options are dead and do not respond. hmmmmm.... Google Home is looking better all the time, especially with multiple Echoes and Dots responding simultaneously and just not answering at times. This has become much more frequent lately. Yesterday we did a little experiment and found some Dots would add a certain item to our shopping list while the Echo and Dot across the room would not add it, or even respond when that particular phrase was used. When we removed the "Robin Hood" name from the item it worked flawlessly every time. This happened with one Echo and one Dot. The other two Dots had no problem with the same phrase it at all. Just ignoring and not even acknowledging the request is not a good response I have also noticed the alexa appl on my android phone is taking upward to 90-100 seconds to access my shopping list now. It is becoming a PITA to use. UPDATE: i just tried an old link I had on my browser and for a split-second distinctly saw a webpage with "App is offline" before the same dead login page was came up. UPDATE2:Trying to load it again the full application webpage comes up with the menus down the left side but there is a message in the middle of the the page with seomthing about being offline. The flash was too fast to read, before the dead login page replaces it. I hope this isn't a new attempt to trap out Canadian IP adresses again, making the whole amazon system useless in Canada. I will try to delete my google and amazon cookies as this was a problem in the beginning despite launching from NY state. It garbbed my information from google and knew I was a Canadian resident. I had to use a virgin computer I just purchased, with no google account links installed. Link to comment
ScottAvery Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I'm not aware of any Amazon plans to facilitate this. Each echo can have the skill linked to an ISY Portal user profile, which can be different. So today, the only way to achieve this is to have sub-accounts, with each having a user profile used by each echo. Note that in V3, account linking is simplified. When you enable the skill, you link directly to an ISY Portal profile, not an amazon account. So, to support multi-room, you no longer need to have multiple amazon accounts. Benoit What Amazon said on this topic was that they will let you group your echos into Amazon groups with smarthome devices, which will effectively define what is in that room. This is why we were discussing groups in this thread at all and why I asked if Amazon would ever pass it on to us through the API instead of keeping the information locked up in their ecosystem. Their solution is you create a group (In Amazon's app) for each room that has an echo and put the devices (Or scene) you would want to respond to the local call of "Alexa turn on/off the lights" I would assume they will add capability to add media devices to rooms in a similar fashion. So we can potentially steal the info by putting a program or variable in the group with the echo in Amazon, but that will be a clugey workaround. (See post # 13 above) https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/22604-what-is-live-update-and-smart-home-skill-v3/?p=221277 Link to comment
G W Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I hope so. Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk Link to comment
mapeter Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but it looks like echo-centric smarthome groups has arrived... Link to comment
stusviews Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but it looks like echo-centric smarthome groups has arrived... How is that different from the existing ability to create groups, other then it being smartphone ability? Link to comment
webminster Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 From their documentation, I'm not sure how this is supposed to be helpful. They say create a group, and add the echo to the group... great. They also say, "Give each group a different name if you have multiple groups. " How does this help me create 2 groups with Echos in different rooms, and say "turn on the lights?" Must be missing something. Link to comment
G W Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I think once all the pieces are put together it might become clear. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment
Paulk8 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Each Alexa device can be assigned to only one group. You than can use that device to turn on or off only that group assigned to it by saying turn lights on or off. This makes the whole thing very limited. The other problem is that I can’t get it to work. Maybe I’m missing something. Link to comment
webminster Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Yeah, that's what I tried too... create a group with an Echo and a device, then said "Alexa, lights on" (according to the documentation). Just replies, "can't find lights." Maybe the feature's not baked yet. Link to comment
G W Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 When I do that, it turns on all the lights in the room. I just want it to turn on the lightning tag as "light". Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment
Paulk8 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Glad to hear I’m not the only one. Unfortunately when it gets fixed and works per there documentation it will be very limited. Only one group per device. Link to comment
G W Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Glad to hear I’m not the only one. Unfortunately when it gets fixed and works per there documentation it will be very limited. Only one group per device.That's the way it should work. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment
ScottAvery Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 When I do that, it turns on all the lights in the room. I just want it to turn on the lightning tag as "light". Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Then only put that light in the group. Or put a scene in the group and change the members of the scene in ISY without having to fiddle with the Echo grouping ever again. Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Hi all, This requires v3 certification and we are still awating its finalization. With kind regards, MIchel Link to comment
fryfrog Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Will we ever have commands based on the room? Example. An Echo in Room 1, Room 2 and Room 3. Room 1: The Echo in the room has "Lights" is set to control lamp A and Lamp B. Room 2: The Echo in the room has "Lights" is set to control lamp C. Room 3: The Echo in the room has "Lights" is set to control dimmer F. I go into Room 2 and say "Alex, Lights on. And the Echo in Room 2 turns on lamp C. The Echos in Room 1 and Room 3 do nothing. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk https://www.reddit.com/r/homeautomation/comments/79bi8w/speak_naturally_to_your_alexa_context_aware/ This should already be possible, but I haven't been able to get it to work. Maybe because my devices don't look like lights? :/ Link to comment
fryfrog Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Hi all, This requires v3 certification and we are still awating its finalization. With kind regards, MIchel Ah, nice! Looking forward to v3 then! Link to comment
toflaherty Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I can't get the groups to work properly either but it sounds like v3 will improve that situation. Sent from my LG-H915 using Tapatalk Link to comment
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