Security and privacy

[Autonow]

How important is your privacy to you? 

A disturbing trend(at least to me) is sweeping the world. In the name of convienience and productivity our personal information is available for the taking.  Everyone is developing apps that only work in the cloud and or require a subscription.  Some examples geofencing. To work requires your location to go to the internet ifttt the biggest offender requires exposure of address books appointments account info etc   I bought a thermostat that required my personal information and an internet connection to work. Perhaps it all started with face book where you lay out your personal life story for anyone to see. 

Does any of this disturb you? When I buy something I expect it to work in private.  Connectivity is good but only on a intranet.  You can’t get hacked if you are not connected to the internet.  Trump used Facebook data to target voters. Will I start to get ad blasted for winter wear because set my thermostat too low?  

With subcription service everything I do is logged on that site.  Just waiting to be hacked. Even those companies with security like credit reporting companies  get hacked. The best security is to not put your info where it can be taken.   Do you find it strange your security system needs to be connected to the internet where it can be hacked?   Wait till someone hacks your home and cause the lights to flash and sound system to play  will you need ghost busters? 

I remember in the old day I bought a scanner for my computer it required a license key. When I got a new computer the manufacture went out of business so I could not transfer the key rendering the scanner useless. Is this going to be the future of the products we buy? If the company goes under the device stops working! 

Thoughts anyone? 

[MWareman]

How important is your privacy to you? 
A disturbing trend(at least to me) is sweeping the world. In the name of convienience and productivity our personal information is available for the taking.  Everyone is developing apps that only work in the cloud and or require a subscription.  Some examples geofencing. To work requires your location to go to the internet ifttt the biggest offender requires exposure of address books appointments account info etc   I bought a thermostat that required my personal information and an internet connection to work. Perhaps it all started with face book where you lay out your personal life story for anyone to see. 
Does any of this disturb you? When I buy something I expect it to work in private.  Connectivity is good but only on a intranet.  You can’t get hacked if you are not connected to the internet.  Trump used Facebook data to target voters. Will I start to get ad blasted for winter wear because set my thermostat too low?  
With subcription service everything I do is logged on that site.  Just waiting to be hacked. Even those companies with security like credit reporting companies  get hacked. The best security is to not put your info where it can be taken.   Do you find it strange your security system needs to be connected to the internet where it can be hacked?   Wait till someone hacks your home and cause the lights to flash and sound system to play  will you need ghost busters? 
I remember in the old day I bought a scanner for my computer it required a license key. When I got a new computer the manufacture went out of business so I could not transfer the key rendering the scanner useless. Is this going to be the future of the products we buy? If the company goes under the device stops working! 
Thoughts anyone? 

Double posted it seems. Not sure which one will survive....

Either way, this is exactly the reason I chose ISY over the other options.

[Autonow]

I like the isy too I espically like the way they integrated the elk and cameras. But I am not a fan of their port server used to extend their reach to other products. Requires a subscription and exposes your Isy on the internet  I’m just not happy the path ud is going down 

In the industrial world we use opc servers to integrate different devices no internet connection required totally self contained 

[MWareman]

I like the isy too I espically like the way they integrated the elk and cameras. But I am not a fan of their port server used to extend their reach to other products. Requires a subscription and exposes your Isy on the internet  I’m just not happy the path ud is going down 

In the industrial world we use opc servers to integrate different devices no internet connection required totally self contained 

 

You don’t have to use that. The Portal has a benefit that it makes it easy to connect to or from other cloud systems without having to mess with SSL certificates and the like, but absolutely not necessary simply to extend to other systems. Look at what Polyglot can do - all entirely local to your network - no cloud needed at all.

 

ISY is local-first cloud-enhanced. A perfect model as you can choose your own level of cloud exposure.

[lilyoyo1]

9 hours ago, Autonow said:

I like the isy too I espically like the way they integrated the elk and cameras. But I am not a fan of their port server used to extend their reach to other products. Requires a subscription and exposes your Isy on the internet  I’m just not happy the path ud is going down 

In the industrial world we use opc servers to integrate different devices no internet connection required totally self contained 

As already mentioned the portal is not a necessity to using the ISY. Everything you can do with the portal you can do without....your just doing all the work yourself to make your connections happen. In the end, if you want to use cloud based systems such as Google home, Ifttt, or Alexa, you're still in the same position in regards to security/privacy. 

When it comes to security/privacy and online stuff, I weigh the pros and cons of what I'm trying to accomplish. I try to choose devices that can operate without the cloud but enhanced by cloud services. This way, should a server shut down or I don't have internet connection my devices will still work. Some such as my Google homes I have no choice in the matter but the fact is, the information I give up is worth the things I get from them. In the end, I'm worried more about the daily happenings in life than I am of someone hacking my house.

[giomania]

I like the isy too I espically like the way they integrated the elk and cameras. But I am not a fan of their port server used to extend their reach to other products. Requires a subscription and exposes your Isy on the internet  I’m just not happy the path ud is going down 
In the industrial world we use opc servers to integrate different devices no internet connection required totally self contained 

That reminds me that I have camera integration (via my Blue Iris server) on my list of things to do. Too many things...too little time.


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