joefly Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 Well it seems like my old 2486D has gone out and needs to be replaced. I was using it as a 8 button with primary control as dimmer to kitchen lights. Seems like there are discontinued. I see 2487S on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Insteon-Dual-Mesh-Technology-Unbeatable-Reliability/dp/B005CDXGD8/ref=sr_1_5_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1544764384&sr=8-5-spons&keywords=insteon+keypad+dimmer+2334&psc=1 but does it do dimming and can it convert to 8 keys, or is my only option of 8 keys are https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DMBJAOG/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza?th=1 what is the feature difference between the two models.?
Brian H Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) Your first link. The 2487S is an On off relay type only. No it will not dim. They use to be convertible with an 8 button exchange kit and a software change option. I believe the ISY can do it. The 8 button kit is no linger on the Smarthome web site but Amazon still has a few. https://www.amazon.com/Insteon-2401CLB-Button-Change-Kit/dp/B00QL8J7WW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1544787064&sr=8-3&keywords=insteon+keypad+buttons The 2334-222 in your second link is an 8 button keypad dimmer. The 2486D was a 120 volt 60 cycle power line only model. The present one is Dual Band and has a universal power supply. 100-277 VAC and 50 or 60 cycle input. Edited December 14, 2018 by Brian H 1
oberkc Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 I know that I have converted 6-button versions to 8, and used the instructions that came with the keypad. I don't recall that this can be done via ISY. Also, if needed to perform a factory reset, this will bring the unit back to the original button configuration (6 or 8). According to the latest manuals, this conversion capability is still in place. But, yes, it seems that the 2334-222 is the current version of your old 2486D. Why would you be looking for other "options"?
paulbates Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) If you haven't tried already, you'll want to factory reset the keypad, followed by a restore device. Many times that will bring them back to life and they don't need to be replaced Changing between 6 and 8 buttons Paul Edited December 14, 2018 by paulbates
markens Posted April 17, 2019 Posted April 17, 2019 I just had an old 2486D keypad (8 button) die. A factory reset does not bring it back to life; no leds and no response at all from the buttons. I've got an even older 2486D (from 2006) that I swapped in as a replacement, which is good for now. But it doesn't have "modern" features like settable led brightness. So I've been looking at this same question of replacement. Current product from Smarthome seems to be the 2334-222 as mentioned above. The 2334 appears to come with generic opaque "SCENE A" (etc) buttons. Custom etched are available, but I'd like to use my current clear buttons. They are currently still available and in-stock at Smarthome (2401CLB) and listed as being for "Insteon Keypads." Does anyone know if these will, indeed, work with the new 2334-222 keypads? Perhaps with an existing ("old") button frame if they don't work directly with the new switch? Related: Do the old color change kits (white/ivory/etc, similar to current 2401IV8) work on the new 2334-222? I have lots of these and it would be useful to use on the new switches if possible. But still want to use the clear buttons! The Smarthome website is somewhat confusing about compatibility. Thanks for any info!
lilyoyo1 Posted April 17, 2019 Posted April 17, 2019 The buttons on the New and old kpls are interchangeable
markens Posted April 18, 2019 Posted April 18, 2019 3 hours ago, lilyoyo1 said: The buttons on the New and old kpls are interchangeable Thanks! I was hoping this was the answer.
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