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I'm curious if anyone has worked out a way to get a button press or screen press to control the ISY.  I'm NOT talking about the Home Control buttons at the bottom of the Elite remote, but rather the AV buttons and the screen.

I saw a youtube video tutorial where he was doing it, but man, what a long process.  He used:

Harmony -> an Android box running "Button Remapper" (never used it myself) -> Tasker (never used it myself) -> Join (never used it myself) -> IFTTT (webhooks to his lighting system)

I already know how to go from IFTTT to the ISY, so that part is do-able, but adds a few more steps to this already very long process.

Anybody have a shorter solution?

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I'm curious if anyone has worked out a way to get a button press or screen press to control the ISY.  I'm NOT talking about the Home Control buttons at the bottom of the Elite remote, but rather the AV buttons and the screen.
I saw a youtube video tutorial where he was doing it, but man, what a long process.  He used:
Harmony -> an Android box running "Button Remapper" (never used it myself) -> Tasker (never used it myself) -> Join (never used it myself) -> IFTTT (webhooks to his lighting system)
I already know how to go from IFTTT to the ISY, so that part is do-able, but adds a few more steps to this already very long process.
Anybody have a shorter solution?


I know the older harmony remotes have 40 IR codes that you can load into your remote that an ISY could see if it had the IR module. I actually just dusted mine off today (harmony 900 with RF to IR blaster). They could be called as part of an activity and I believe you could also associate them with hard and soft buttons. Do you know if that’s the case with the Elite?


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I hear you. Years ago I ran an extension cable to get IR to my ISY. As Roomie turned to Simple Control (subscription service) and the old app hasn’t kept up, I found myself going back to the old IR with Harmony today. IR leaves a lot to be desired but there’s something nice about direct input to ISY vs using other web services.


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Thanks for the comments.

I swear, this has become the search for the Holy Grail for me.  I thought the Android Box solution was at least a solution that would work, even if extremely round-about.  But not having any experience with an Android Box, it wasn't until I really started to think it through...  How does Harmony communicate to the Android Box?  It appears to me that it is IR, so that puts the kibosh on that.  If I was going to go IR (which I'm not), it would make more sense to just use an extender (as suggested) and use the ISY IR.

The search continues... 

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Thanks for the comments.
I swear, this has become the search for the Holy Grail for me.  I thought the Android Box solution was at least a solution that would work, even if extremely round-about.  But not having any experience with an Android Box, it wasn't until I really started to think it through...  How does Harmony communicate to the Android Box?  It appears to me that it is IR, so that puts the kibosh on that.  If I was going to go IR (which I'm not), it would make more sense to just use an extender (as suggested) and use the ISY IR.
The search continues... 
What is it you're looking to do that using IR will not accomplish?

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Maybe an RPI with a bluetooth receiver (assuming you can get it to pair with the Harmony and write backend code to make API calls to the ISY). But honestly, I can think of more useful and interesting problems to solve when there's a cheap usable solution already available.

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Maybe an RPI with a bluetooth receiver (assuming you can get it to pair with the Harmony and write backend code to make API calls to the ISY). But honestly, I can think of more useful and interesting problems to solve when there's a cheap usable solution already available.

 

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This looks like an interesting solution:

 

https://github.com/wickerwaka/harmony-bridge

 

Pairs with Harmony using bluetooth and you can map buttons to REST calls (on the ISY)

 

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This looks like an interesting solution:

https://github.com/wickerwaka/harmony-bridge

Pairs with Harmony using bluetooth and you can map buttons to REST s (on the ISY)

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I don't see what that gets you. You can control ISY devices from the Harmony using the HueEmulator Polyglot. Which is different than what the OP is asking?

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I have my IR codes for ISY on my Harmony, so I get control that way for individual button presses.

 I also have polyglot with the harmony node server.  There is two way communication between ISY and Harmony, though it doesn't have nodes for individual button presses.  Basically, when you turn an activity on, it will tell ISY the activity is on and it will show "True".  So at least from the standpoint of starting or ending an activity, there is a direct link between ISY and Harmony (or at least mostly direct since it goes through polyglot on a Rpi).  This works great for something like dimming the lights when you start an activity and turning them back up when done.  Also, for things like, when I arm my Elk alarm, ISY shuts off any running activities on Harmony.

But in short, if you want individual button presses on Harmony, I only know of using IR.  If you can't run a wire between your ISY and Harmony, you may use an IR/RF repeater that can cover the distance.

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Follow up to this.

Home Assistant has a "Roku emulator" that can be used to do this.  Very similar to how the "Hue emulator" allows use of the Home Control buttons, the HA Roku emulator allows use of the Home Entertainment buttons.  This works because the Roku is a Home Entertainment device that is WiFi controlled by the Harmony Hub.

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It would be great if there was a 'virtual device' that you could add to the Harmony, and include it in every activity.  You could then program any available buttons on the Harmony remote, to trigger a function on the virtual device.  The virtual device could be connected to a node server, and you could have ISY programs watch the corresponding nodes for button presses & and then do anything you wanted.

I have zero idea how to create such a virtual device & get Harmony to allow us to add it to a Harmony activity.  But other than that, the right person could probably implement this pretty easily I'm guessing?  Or maybe such a virtual device for the Harmony already exists???

Or is this essentially what the Hue Emulator node server already does?  I will try it.

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Hue Emulator will do exactly this, but only for "Home Control" buttons on your remote.  You didn't say what remote you have, but I know this will work for the Elite and newer Companion remotes.

To map to the the rest of the buttons is entirely different problem.  I've seen other home automation systems where someone has written a "Roku Emulator" that will do this, but I haven't really played with any of them.  Someone would have to write a "Roku Emulator" nodeserver for ISY, but nobody has yet.

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