IOLink 2450

[ronvond]

On a number of occasions my garage door, controlled by an Insteon IOLinc 2450 V41, has opened during the night.  To date I have lost nothing from my garage, but I am concerned with the un-commanded operation.  A few months back I experienced an "All On" event, which caused it to open.  I can understand that and assume it may have been triggered by a failing PLM, since the PLM had to be replaced a few weeks later.  I have two questions regarding this issue.

First: "is there a fix that will prevent this from happening in the future?"

Second: I seem to remember sometime back someone mentioned that the 2450 is not a good choice for a garage door control for security reasons and that there was a better option with a Z-Wave device.  Does anyone have information on a replacement and will it work with UDI's v 4.7.3?

Thanks for any help you can offer

Ron

[Bumbershoot]

I have two of these, and am happy with them.  They act as secure Z-Wave repeaters, if that's an advantage for you.  I don't have specific information about including them with your specific version of firmware, but they're fairly simple devices for your ISY to interact with.  Works great with the 5.x.x firmware series.

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The GD00Z-4 Garage Door Opener Remote Controller opens or closes a sectional garage door remotely through a Z-Wave certified Gateway or Security Panel. It is compatible with virtually any automatic garage door opener connected to a sectional garage door. Installers only need to ‘pair’ the unit into the Gateway, mount the unit, connect two wires and plug it in. The GD00Z provides both audible and visual warnings prior to remotely-activated door movement, allowing it to meet UL 325-2010 safety requirements. The GD00Z ships with a wireless tilt sensor that attaches to the inside of the garage door, which reports ‘open’ or ‘closed’ status to the controller.

Specifications

• • Power: 120VAC, 50/60 Hz
• • Garage door position sensor frequency: 345 MHz
• • Z-Wave Frequency: 908.42 MHz

Z-Wave Specifications

• • Range: Up to 100 feet between the wireless controller and/or the closest Z-Wave receiver module
• • Network wide inclusion
• • Scene: Command class
• • Security compatible

Certifications

• • FCC
• • ETL
• • UL 325

Included Accessories

• • Power supply 120VAC / 60Hz to 12VDC
• • Garage door tilt sensor
• • Mounting bracket and hardware

Dimensions

• • Controller - W x H x D (Inches): 6.94 x 1.38 x 5.0
• • Tilt sensor - W x H x D (Inches): 1.69 x 0.88 x 1.19

Product Compatibility Information

• Click here for GD00Z product compatibility information (.pdf)

Order number: GD00Z-4

 

[ronvond]

Thanks for your quick reply.  I'm hoping someone who is using these, or another, with UDI software 4.7.3 will give a positive report.  I know I'll have to upgrade to 5.x.x someday, but my system overall is working great and I hate to mess with success.  Again, thank you.

[Bumbershoot]

I can't say for sure if it will, but here's what the device reports.  It's all fairly simple.  Maybe someone here can confirm if it can work with earlier firmware.

Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ] ----------------------------------------------
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ] West Auto Door
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ] ZW011_1 uid=11 type=4.64.7 mid=335 tid=18244 pid=13616
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ] Association Group ID 1
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ]    -  x5E  V2   ZWAVEPLUS_INFO
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ]    -  x5A  V1   DEVICE_RESET_LOCALLY
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ]    -  x72  V2   MANUFACTURER_SPECIFIC
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ]    -  x73  V1   POWERLEVEL
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ]    -  x98  V1   SECURITY
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ] - Secure
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ]    -  x86  V2  VERSION
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ]    -  x85  V2  ASSOCIATION
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ]    -  x59  V1  ASSOCIATION_GROUP_INFO
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ]    -  x66  V1  BARRIER_OPERATOR
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ]    -  x22  V1  APPLICATION_STATUS
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ]    -  x71  V4  NOTIFICATION
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ]    -  xEF  V0  MARK
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ] 
Mon 03/18/2019 16:38:43 : [ZW-SHOW         ] ----------------------------------------------

 

[ronvond]

I was reading product reviews on Amazon.  It seems there is a rather high failure rate at about the 12 month point.  Have you witnessed anything like that?

Thanks

Ron

[Bumbershoot]

Nope. I couldn’t recommend anything that failed that quickly. They’ve been good for me. 

[Dr. Q]

I have to pipe in here and mention that I’ve decided to move my security type devices to HomeKit, which involved swapping out a Schlage 469 for a Sense (Bluetooth instead of Z-wave) and picking up a Insignia (yes, That Insignia) Wi-Fi Garage Door Controller for Apple HomeKit, $70 at Best Buy. If you have an Apple ecosystem, this is hard to beat; the only cloud here starts with an “i” and it doesn’t come with an app, you use the Home app.

The Insteon Garage Door Kit was my rationale for starting this expensive hobby in the first place, after going away on a Christmas weekend and finding I’d left the door open. While I’ve never had some of the problems others have had, I’ve never really trusted the thing and I’m glad to get rid of it.

Chuck



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[paulbates]

I’ve had 3 for a number of years 

1 is in the attic controlling a motor for heavy duty dampers

2 in the garage... 1 reading a Hydreon rain sensor and the other controlling the detached garage door. I’ve been controlling the garage door since 2011 with the same iolinc and keypad key... if it missed even once my phone would be ringing.. it hasn’t. I get regular notifications when the hydreon cancels a sprinkler cycle due to enough rain.

i consider my attic and the garage hostile environments with temps above and below the iolincs specs, but they continue to work 

[johnjces]

@ronvond

I too have three IOLinc 2450 v41 in use as garage door sensors and openers. Two in a hot climate and one in a cooler climate.  All have been in use three+ years with the 'cooler' one in use about 3 1/2+ years. The 'cooler' one, about 4 months into it's life, began to randomly open the garage door which is pretty disconcerting. However, the problem in that instance was the PLM. I was new to all this and purchased an alleged refurbished PLM. Once I replaced that PLM with a brand new one, I have had no issues with any of them... yet. I know it's a matter of time with those in the desert heat of a garage ceiling failing first.

I "think" one thing I did at both places which 'may' help, is that I added whole house surge protection at the breaker box. Not certain if that has saved any of my devices, but have never had much fail since I installed them. The one in the mountains has been in place 8+ years.

I hope this tidbit helps.

John

[PhanTomiZ]

On 3/18/2019 at 4:24 PM, ronvond said:

On a number of occasions my garage door, controlled by an Insteon IOLinc 2450 V41, has opened during the night.  To date I have lost nothing from my garage, but I am concerned with the un-commanded operation.  A few months back I experienced an "All On" event, which caused it to open.  I can understand that and assume it may have been triggered by a failing PLM, since the PLM had to be replaced a few weeks later.  I have two questions regarding this issue.

First: "is there a fix that will prevent this from happening in the future?"

Second: I seem to remember sometime back someone mentioned that the 2450 is not a good choice for a garage door control for security reasons and that there was a better option with a Z-Wave device.  Does anyone have information on a replacement and will it work with UDI's v 4.7.3?

Thanks for any help you can offer

Ron

I have 2 I/O links.  One for garage and one that resets my computer when it locks up.

I use 2 programs to automatically close my garage door.  This is not a popular solution by most here on this forum, but it works best for me.  1 for night and 1 for day.  Identical programs, except for the time to close is different.  I use a couple of so called safeties.  Use motion detection, 30 second beeping alarm before the door closes and flashing of the lights.  Oh yea, texts to all involved when the door fails to close (object has fallen and in the way)

My original problem was having the garage door open all night because some family member forgot to close it before retiring to bed.  BTW, I may have been of those members too.

Also, very reliable in keeping the door closed.  Sometimes, too reliable.

PhanTomiZ

[beninsteon]

After I experienced an all on event in my house that opened my garage door, turned on 2 gas fireplaces, and turned off the water  (all controlled by IOLincs at the time), I removed all IOLinc relays from my installation. Replaced with Global Cache relays which are designed to be controlled by a network resource. A GC-100 has 3 relays on it (plus 2 serial ports and 8 sensor/IR ports) and they can be purchased on eBay for around $100 delivered.

https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=gc-100&_sacat=0