RichTJ99 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Hi, I am having an issue today where all my lights & devices are powering on randomly. I have a log & it doesnt look like the ISY is even registering all the lights turning on. The ISY admin console doesnt show the lights on all over the place. Is my PLM ready to be swapped out? I have a spare on ready - if so is that just a "restore PLM"? I forgot how to do that. I have this one for a few years. This happen a 12:44pm (log attached): Scene:Scenes / Scene: Basement 3Way On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:28:37 PM Program Log Main House / Basement / Main: Basement Gym Front Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:28:37 PM System Log Main House / Basement / Main: Basement Bar Rear Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:28:37 PM System Log Main House / Basement / Main: Basement Gym Rear Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:28:37 PM System Log Main House / Basement / Main: Basem Interior - NO LO Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:28:37 PM System Log Main House / Basement / Main: Basement Bar Front Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:28:37 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:29:04 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:29:14 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:29:14 PM Program Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:30:00 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:30:10 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:30:10 PM Program Log Main House / Main: Au Pair Fan Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:30:12 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:30:56 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:31:06 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:31:06 PM Program Log Main House / Main: Living Room Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:31:14 PM System Log Main House / Main: Living Room 3way NO LOA Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:31:14 PM System Log Main House / 2nd floor / Main: Upstairs Hall Keypad Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:31:19 PM System Log Main House / Main: Entry 4way Kitchen Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:31:19 PM System Log Main House / Main: Entry 4way Den Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:31:19 PM System Log Main House / Main: Front Entry Keypad Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:31:19 PM System Log Main House / 1st Floor / Main: Entry 4way Stairs Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:31:19 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:31:51 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:32:02 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:32:02 PM Program Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:32:47 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:32:58 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:32:58 PM Program Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:33:43 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:33:54 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:33:54 PM Program Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:34:39 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:34:49 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:34:49 PM Program Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:35:35 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:35:45 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:35:45 PM Program Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:36:36 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:36:47 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:36:47 PM Program Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:37:37 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:37:47 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:37:47 PM Program Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:38:39 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:38:49 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:38:49 PM Program Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:39:41 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:39:51 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:39:51 PM Program Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:40:37 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:40:48 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:40:48 PM Program Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:41:33 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:41:43 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:41:43 PM Program Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 0% Thu 2019/09/26 12:42:34 PM System Log Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Garage: Motion 5-Sensor Status 100% Thu 2019/09/26 12:42:44 PM System Log Scene:Scenes / Scene: Garage 4-5-6 On 255 Thu 2019/09/26 12:42:44 PM Program Log Link to comment
mwester Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Search the forum for mentions of the "all on" problem. Link to comment
larryllix Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 This is an Insteon protocol phenomenon and not to be thought related to your PLM/ISY. It is believed to be a signal clash that may be repeated and cleaned up by Insteon units into a Scene On signal.. Since AC powered Insteon devices are supposed to play nicely in the protocol by watching for signal clash probabilities and avoiding them, it is believed to be from battery operated devices, that repeat their signal several times blindly. Examine your program looking for a battery operated device (typically MSes) that triggers a program and your program immediately puts out an Insteon response to activate a device and insert a Wait2-3 seconds as the first line before the Insteon device control. KPLs are bad for this as people like to get those LEDs to repond immediately and KPLs contain multiple devices that are all in the same device, protocol wise. For high speed operations from a MS to a lamp use a scene where ISY doesn't have to spit out a Lamp On right away. It is faster and ISY can just turn it off on it's own logic. Most of this is addressed in the UDI wiki website, with how to's to help you. Link to comment
Nitemare Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I have had similar issues in the past . . . I rebooted the ISY and the problem cleared up. Not sure if this will help but it is worth looking at . . . Link to comment
Techman Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Nitemare said: I have had similar issues in the past . . . I rebooted the ISY and the problem cleared up. Not sure if this will help but it is worth looking at . . . Nitemare and RichTJ99 Here's the solution to All on events: https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=INSTEON_Random_All_On_Events The older version of the Motion Sensor will send continuous on commands when the battery is low, usually before it sends a low battery signal. Link to comment
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