andrew77 Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 Hi guys, I have a SWL that doesn't light up anymore (doesn't light the load and the LED strip doesn't light either) Except when I push the air gap tab in. Then the lowest LED on the strip lights but goes out immediately as soon as I release it. Just a last ditch posting in hopes theres a solution before I go out and replace it. Seems to be an odd way to go down. I've never seen that before. I should mention I just replaced the regular incandescent bulbs with cheaper LED bulbs as far as the load goes. And the switch has resided out in one of my barns for a number of years. It's v.27 Any hopes before I remove and replace? Drew
paulbates Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 Hey Drew Pressing the switch in is for set mode (short) and factory reset (= 5 seconds). Air gap is pulling the set switch out with tweezers (or something) for at least 10 seconds and then pushing in. Suggestions Actual airgap as described above and retest Factory reset as described above, and restore device from the admin console Both are easy to try. After that try right-click and diagnostics - device links. Does it error out? Does it match ISY links Paul
andrew77 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Posted November 16, 2019 Hi Paul, Thanks for the fast reply. I did air gap (pul tab out for ten seconds then push it in) I'm fuzzy on the nomenclature (not really, but I've been waiting all year to use that word, haha) I'll try a factory reset and get back to the forum with my findings. Drew
andrew77 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Posted November 16, 2019 So, I tried air gapping again. I also tried the factory reset and still the same behaviour. The only thing I changed was the LED lights. That couldn't be the issue could it? Just seems coincidental that's all Drew
paulbates Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 It can be. Some LED loads don't work with Insteon.. unfortunately I don''t know of a comprehensive list. Try removing the led(s) and see what happens Paul
mwester Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 Strange, and unlikely - but possible. I had a 25w-equivalent LED fail in a very non-obvious way that essentially made a newer switchlinc completely unresponsive. Yet, the LED was indistinguishable from it's twin on the other side of the garage door. If swapping the LED bulb is difficult (danged ceilings these days -- when I was young, why, we had proper ceilings in our caves - could reach them all without needing to climb...) -- anyway, if you can't reach the LED, disconnect the load first while you're swapping the switchlinc and see if it operates properly without a load. That way you've only one wire to put back...
andrew77 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Posted November 16, 2019 They worked for a while with the new lights, then stopped. I'll try pulling the load wire (something wrong with that sentence... too many jokes...) Drew
andrew77 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Posted November 16, 2019 Just finished replacing the SWL. All seems to be working fine again. I think the SWL in question was installed in 2008 so I guess I can't really complain. If this one fails I'll get on the ladder and switch the lights out. Drew
Brian H Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 It sounds like the original SWL developed a power supply problem. Was the SWL a dimmer or on off relay type? The early 2476S relay type did not have a Air Gap switch and had a different method for a Factory Reset.
andrew77 Posted November 17, 2019 Author Posted November 17, 2019 It was old but it had the air gap tab. if it is one of the older ones you’re talking about I’d like to know how to air gap and how to reset this one. if I can salvage it for another spot I’d like to try. drew
andrew77 Posted November 17, 2019 Author Posted November 17, 2019 Sorry, I didn't answer your question. It was a dimmer but with an air gap button
Brian H Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 All the dimmer versions had an Air Gap switch. It was the early hardware 2476S Insteon and 2876S Icon switches that needed the different procedure. SwitchLinc Relay.pdf
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