I have a circulator that circulates hot water to our master bedroom with a return line and temperature sensor.  That way, we do not have to run the water to get it hot.  It runs about 1 minute every hour.  I have an Insteon On/Off switch to control the power (for now, call it S1).  I’d like to turn off power from 11 pm to 5 am.  Simple: I have a program

If From 5 AM to 11 PM,

Then Set Scene “MBR Hw Circulator Enabled” On

Else Set Scene “MBR Hw Circulator Enabled” Off

That works fine. 

The scene has two members: S1 (above) that directly controls the load and R1G – a button on an 8 scene Toggle mini remote.  Both S1 and R1G are controller/responders.  My intent is to use the remote button to toggle the scene back on if I get up early and need the circulator to run – or at least return to auto mode where the temperature sensor decides if the circulator is needed.

The problem is that when the program sets the scene to off, the remote button correctly responds and shows off, but pressing the remote’s button does not toggle the scene back on.  It will if I press the button twice.   Ideas?

 

34 minutes ago, rpsa said:

I have a circulator that circulates hot water to our master bedroom with a return line and temperature sensor.  That way, we do not have to run the water to get it hot.  It runs about 1 minute every hour.  I have an Insteon On/Off switch to control the power (for now, call it S1).  I’d like to turn off power from 11 pm to 5 am.  Simple: I have a program

If From 5 AM to 11 PM,

Then Set Scene “MBR Hw Circulator Enabled” On

Else Set Scene “MBR Hw Circulator Enabled” Off

That works fine. 

The scene has two members: S1 (above) that directly controls the load and R1G – a button on an 8 scene Toggle mini remote.  Both S1 and R1G are controller/responders.  My intent is to use the remote button to toggle the scene back on if I get up early and need the circulator to run – or at least return to auto mode where the temperature sensor decides if the circulator is needed.

The problem is that when the program sets the scene to off, the remote button correctly responds and shows off, but pressing the remote’s button does not toggle the scene back on.  It will if I press the button twice.   Ideas?

 

The remote can't be updated with its status since it's battery powered and goes back to sleep.

The best thing you can do is create a variable that tracks button presses and use that in your program instead. You'll want to remove the direct link from the remote to that scene otherwise the on/off command will always be sent to the device. I personally would use non toggle on but that all depends on what else you have planned for the buttons

Edited May 28, 20205 yr by lilyoyo1

My first ISY project years ago was to hook up a motion sensor to an outlet into which the recirculating pump was plugged. Works well and no remembering to push a button:

 

On 5/28/2020 at 11:55 AM, rpsa said:

The problem is that when the program sets the scene to off, the remote button correctly responds and shows off, but pressing the remote’s button does not toggle the scene back on.  It will if I press the button twice.   Ideas?

That's how the 8-scene mini remotes work, it's a hardware limitation.  Being a wireless device the mini-remote has no idea what the state of the scene actually is.  If you watch the little LED indicator on the top of the button you can tell which way it's activating.  We actually changed ours to 4 scene controllers with an on and off button for each of the 4 scenes.   Then for some of the pairs instead of it actually being a scene on/off I used programs.

For your hot water, is the bathroom light an Insteon switch?   If so, you could just use a program from there to turn your scene on, skipping the 8-button remote entirely.

Hot Water Circ Program

On 5/28/2020 at 12:55 PM, rpsa said:

I have a circulator that circulates hot water to our master bedroom with a return line and temperature sensor.  That way, we do not have to run the water to get it hot.  It runs about 1 minute every hour.  I have an Insteon On/Off switch to control the power (for now, call it S1).  I’d like to turn off power from 11 pm to 5 am.  Simple: I have a program

If From 5 AM to 11 PM,

Then Set Scene “MBR Hw Circulator Enabled” On

Else Set Scene “MBR Hw Circulator Enabled” Off

That works fine. 

The scene has two members: S1 (above) that directly controls the load and R1G – a button on an 8 scene Toggle mini remote.  Both S1 and R1G are controller/responders.  My intent is to use the remote button to toggle the scene back on if I get up early and need the circulator to run – or at least return to auto mode where the temperature sensor decides if the circulator is needed.

The problem is that when the program sets the scene to off, the remote button correctly responds and shows off, but pressing the remote’s button does not toggle the scene back on.  It will if I press the button twice.   Ideas?

 

I am looking to do something similar, what are you using to monitor the temperature?