Guest Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Couple more: The ability to move items up/down within a scene or within my lighting. The abiltiy to add rooms. For organization purposes, it would be nice to have rooms: living room, office, dining room, etc. And then within each room be able to put in devices and/or scenes. Finally, I would like to reiterate the need for X10 compatibility. If you guys could find a way to work this in, I would be ever grateful.
Michel Kohanim Posted June 4, 2007 Posted June 4, 2007 It would be cool to be able to export a table of devices to .txt or excel. Something simple, name, address, type, firmware, etc. It's nice to have as a reference if needed. Would XML work? If so, you can view it at http://your.isy.url:port/web/nodescnf.xml Please let me know if this is Ok. It would also be good if addressess showed up somewhere (i.e. when highlighting a device in My Lighting). Just to tell what is what. Thanks This is simple enough requirement which I think we can implement rather quickly.
Michel Kohanim Posted June 4, 2007 Posted June 4, 2007 Couple more: The ability to move items up/down within a scene or within my lighting. The abiltiy to add rooms. For organization purposes, it would be nice to have rooms: living room, office, dining room, etc. And then within each room be able to put in devices and/or scenes. we have already added this requirement (it's quite popular). Finally, I would like to reiterate the need for X10 compatibility. If you guys could find a way to work this in, I would be ever grateful. heatvent, no guarantees but we have started investigating it. With regards,
gfrnd Posted June 4, 2007 Posted June 4, 2007 1) on the schedule page there are 2 checkboxes one for active and one for on hold; if they were converted to radio buttons and made active, I could just stop a schedule activity from right there; say if i was going away for the weekend; the hold would last indefinitely until I made it active again; think that would be very convenient 2) someone mentioned adding a security option to a schedule; just make it happen in a random time within a window, say +- 15 min. when selected great tool now; excited about all the work going into improvements
Sub-Routine Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 There are a lot of good suggestions here! Universal Devices has a great product and are making it better all the time. Good Job! A few of my own suggestions: There should be a link to Universal Devices on all the Forum pages. An option I would like is the possibility to put a Schedules on Hold by checking the box on the Schedules page. Or a combo box with Active/Hold. Or a separate window for Hold schedules. I think the Triggers page should look and act similarly to the Schedules page. I would like to see the Last Run time on Triggers Can Triggers be given an Active/ Hold, like Schedules? I would like a Delete button for Conditions and Responses. Bugs: On the Schedule page the Hold checkbox is not checked when a schedule is on hold (as of 2.1.1). The Schedule Configurator close button doesn't function. I cannot select Off/On for any Relay controllers in Scenes. The slider is ghosted. I can select a Ramp Rate for an Icon dimmer. Icon dimmers have only one (0.1 seconds) Ramp Rate. Thank you, Rand ISY-26 V2.1.1
Michel Kohanim Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 In my case, my ISY is running in my vacation home and there's no PC in that location. I've identified 2 use cases where it would be useful to execute some code in response to a trigger, but I'd like to run it on my hosted web site. I originally thought of having a mail handler just parse the notification email the ISY sends and process it myself, but it seems like other customers might have a similar need and a SOAP request over HTTP is language neutral, so that's why I made the suggestion. We are going for Web Services! If I understand your point c., I originally thought that the WSDL for the service would correspond to the information that I get in the trigger notification email, but on second thought, I wonder if supplying more information about the state of the ISY would be useful and minimize the amount of communication required by the service back to the ISY? At the trigger will communicate the same triplets of control, action, node + the time of occurence. This said, however, we are in the process of revamping triggers and schedules. We'll all know more by our next release Another point to consider is how should the ISY handle the response from the service. Umm! Never thought about it. In what cases would you want ISY to respond to a "responder"? I'd imagine that the triggeree (if such word exists) has the capability of doing everything else within ISY ... am I missing something? The Java SDK appears to meet my needs; I am just interested in knowing more about how the ISY works This is really good to know ... thanks so very much! ---todd
Michel Kohanim Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 1) on the schedule page there are 2 checkboxes one for active and one for on hold; if they were converted to radio buttons and made active, I could just stop a schedule activity from right there; say if i was going away for the weekend; the hold would last indefinitely until I made it active again;think that would be very convenient 2) someone mentioned adding a security option to a schedule; just make it happen in a random time within a window, say +- 15 min. when selected great tool now; excited about all the work going into improvements Excellent ideas specifically with respect to allowing the active and hold columns become editable and thus you can effect a change right then and there. Captured! Thank you
Michel Kohanim Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 There are a lot of good suggestions here!Universal Devices has a great product and are making it better all the time. Good Job! A few of my own suggestions: There should be a link to Universal Devices on all the Forum pages. Ah, yes!!! An option I would like is the possibility to put a Schedules on Hold by checking the box on the Schedules page. Or a combo box with Active/Hold. Or a separate window for Hold schedules. Excellent idea, but unfortunately "gfrnd" beat you to it ... see the previous post please I think the Triggers page should look and act similarly to the Schedules page. I would like to see the Last Run time on Triggers Can Triggers be given an Active/ Hold, like Schedules? You are right ... I am not sure to what extent we can make them look/feel the same but we should be able to implement some of the features rather quickly I would like a Delete button for Conditions and Responses. You do have both. You might have to maximize your screen to see them. Bugs: On the Schedule page the Hold checkbox is not checked when a schedule is on hold (as of 2.1.1). It shouldn't be! That checkbox is only checked when you have a schedule of type "hold" and not when a schedule is on hold. I guess this is rather confusing. Hold schedules are schedules that, when active, put other schedules on hold and when deactivated put other schedules back to the active state. Now, having editable active/on hold in the table would work if you want to manually put one or some schedules on hold. But, when it comes time to put schedules on hold at some point in the future, then a hold schedule is needed. I hope I make sense. The Schedule Configurator close button doesn't function. Should it? I cannot select Off/On for any Relay controllers in Scenes. The slider is ghosted. this shall be rectified. I can select a Ramp Rate for an Icon dimmer. Icon dimmers have only one (0.1 seconds) Ramp Rate. Thank you, Rand ISY-26 V2.1.1
Guest bjcatlin Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 Another suggestion... In the schedules, when presented with the calendar, have a dropdown box for the year (at least), and possibly month, or have separate arrows for year and month. When I was playing with putting schedules on hold, it wanted me to put in a date, and it always wanted to start at January 1999. So, I would have to click the right arrow a LOT to get it to June 2007. Dropdown boxes would allow me to select year and month quickly. I have also seen programs that have the normal right and left arrows, but also have right and left double-arrows, which changes the year. Either way would work for me. The arrows/double-arrows might be a bit more cosmetically pleasing. So, it might look like the following: (arrows only, text is for description only) << < > >> Year-1 Month-1 Month+1 Year+1 B.J.
Michel Kohanim Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 Another suggestion... In the schedules, when presented with the calendar, have a dropdown box for the year (at least), and possibly month, or have separate arrows for year and month. When I was playing with putting schedules on hold, it wanted me to put in a date, and it always wanted to start at January 1999. So, I would have to click the right arrow a LOT to get it to June 2007. Dropdown boxes would allow me to select year and month quickly. I have also seen programs that have the normal right and left arrows, but also have right and left double-arrows, which changes the year. Either way would work for me. The arrows/double-arrows might be a bit more cosmetically pleasing. So, it might look like the following: (arrows only, text is for description only) >> Year-1 Month-1 Month+1 Year+1 B.J. B.J. First, you have uncovered a bug! The date should start from today. Second, consider it done. Thanks so very much, With regards,
Kib Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 Per Michel's request to post here: "Security" function, as mentioned in gfrnd's earier post, would allow a light to go on (or off) at a random time +/- 15 min. from programmed time. In other words, a light is set to go on at 10:00 PM, with the security feature turned on for that lamp it will actually turn on sometime between 9:45 PM & 10:15 PM
Michel Kohanim Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 Per Michel's request to post here: "Security" function, as mentioned in gfrnd's earier post, would allow a light to go on (or off) at a random time +/- 15 min. from programmed time. In other words, a light is set to go on at 10:00 PM, with the security feature turned on for that lamp it will actually turn on sometime between 9:45 PM & 10:15 PM Kib, Thanks. Got it now!
Guest Posted June 5, 2007 Posted June 5, 2007 Any chance that you guys are planning to dress up the GUI interface. I'm have no knowledge of JAVA but the interface is functional but is not the prettiest. Or is the plan to have a software plugin such as the MCE be the fancy smancy interface and the ISY GUI to be more barebones and functional. I realize you guys have a lot of requests on your plate, I'm more or less just curious. I would take functionality over eyecandy at this point.
Sub-Routine Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 Actually, the Icon dimmers allow setting ramp rates, just like SwitchLincs. The documentation says otherwise, but I have a house full of them and can attest to the fact that it does work. Sean Some of the early Icons were reported to have this capability. None of the Icons I have connected to a load have a selectable ramp rate. If the load switch is Insteon an Icon (or any controller) can call a unique ramp rate. I only have a couple of Icons with a load, most of my Icons are only controllers, so I am not certain of this, but the few I have loads on do not use ramp rates. Rand
Sub-Routine Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 There are a lot of good suggestions here!Universal Devices has a great product and are making it better all the time. Good Job! A few of my own suggestions: I think the Triggers page should look and act similarly to the Schedules page. I would like to see the Last Run time on Triggers Can Triggers be given an Active/ Hold, like Schedules? You are right ... I am not sure to what extent we can make them look/feel the same but we should be able to implement some of the features rather quickly Cool! If you could make the Triggers a table similar to the Schedules. Most of the triggers will occupy more than one line depending on the number of Conditions and Responses. Double-click a Trigger to open a configuration window. I would like a Delete button for Conditions and Responses. You do have both. You might have to maximize your screen to see them. I have maximized the screen. I see two buttons, New and Edit; no Delete. Bugs: On the Schedule page the Hold checkbox is not checked when a schedule is on hold (as of 2.1.1). It shouldn't be! That checkbox is only checked when you have a schedule of type "hold" and not when a schedule is on hold. I guess this is rather confusing. Hold schedules are schedules that, when active, put other schedules on hold and when deactivated put other schedules back to the active state. Now, having editable active/on hold in the table would work if you want to manually put one or some schedules on hold. But, when it comes time to put schedules on hold at some point in the future, then a hold schedule is needed. I hope I make sense. Oh. No, you don't make any sense Is there a Hold and a Suspend, two different things? I haven't played with Schedule Holds until now. The Schedule Configurator close button doesn't function. Should it? Yes, it should act as Cancel, the same as the other windows. Thank you, Rand ISY-26 V2.1.1 [/b] Rand
Sub-Routine Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 All of my Icon switches accept variable ramp rates. I have 30 of them, ordered at different times. They are all the green LED, so maybe that's why. Honestly, if there are ones that don't do it, I think they are outnumbered by the ones that do. Either way, they shouldn't remove the functionality from the software because there are a lot of them out there that support it. Sean Yes, you are right. The option shouldn't be removed. It won't hurt anything to try. Rand
Michel Kohanim Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 There are a lot of good suggestions here!Universal Devices has a great product and are making it better all the time. Good Job! A few of my own suggestions: I think the Triggers page should look and act similarly to the Schedules page. I would like to see the Last Run time on Triggers Can Triggers be given an Active/ Hold, like Schedules? You are right ... I am not sure to what extent we can make them look/feel the same but we should be able to implement some of the features rather quickly Cool! If you could make the Triggers a table similar to the Schedules. Most of the triggers will occupy more than one line depending on the number of Conditions and Responses. Double-click a Trigger to open a configuration window. I would like a Delete button for Conditions and Responses. You do have both. You might have to maximize your screen to see them. I have maximized the screen. I see two buttons, New and Edit; no Delete. Bugs: On the Schedule page the Hold checkbox is not checked when a schedule is on hold (as of 2.1.1). It shouldn't be! That checkbox is only checked when you have a schedule of type "hold" and not when a schedule is on hold. I guess this is rather confusing. Hold schedules are schedules that, when active, put other schedules on hold and when deactivated put other schedules back to the active state. Now, having editable active/on hold in the table would work if you want to manually put one or some schedules on hold. But, when it comes time to put schedules on hold at some point in the future, then a hold schedule is needed. I hope I make sense. Oh. No, you don't make any sense Is there a Hold and a Suspend, two different things? I haven't played with Schedule Holds until now. The Schedule Configurator close button doesn't function. Should it? Yes, it should act as Cancel, the same as the other windows. Thank you, Rand ISY-26 V2.1.1 [/b] Rand Hi Rand! Wow, you do not see the remove button for conditions/responses? Ummm. would you be kind enough to let me know your resolution? Working on the triggers !!! With regards,
Guest Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 I'd like to add something to splogue's request to maintain links. It would be nice to have a separate program or something like that to view and manage links. Where you could highlight a device and see all things linking to and from the device so you can double check that things look OK. It would also be nice to have a menu uption to clear all links or factory reset a device. I know there is a restore device option, but sometimes you like to start fresh so the ability to clear a unit without having to go through a manual reset would be cool.
Sub-Routine Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 I would like a Delete button for Conditions and Responses. You do have both. You might have to maximize your screen to see them. I have maximized the screen. I see two buttons, New and Edit; no Delete. Hi Rand! Wow, you do not see the remove button for conditions/responses? Ummm. would you be kind enough to let me know your resolution? Working on the triggers !!! With regards, My screen is 1024. You are right, when I change it to 1280 I can see the buttons. Perhaps you can change the buttons to simply read Add, Edit, and Delete. Or add a right button menu to the items. It appears as if those are the only buttons I can't fit. Thank you, Rand
Michel Kohanim Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 WHOOAH .... I'd like to see a way to work with the internal links between devices. In other words, if I have a hallway with a switch on either end, the two switches control each other, without having to go through an external controller. This I don't understand. After you are done programming with ISY, there's nothing in between the two switches; i.e. if you unplug ISY, the two switches still communicate. Would you please elaborate by what you mean? I don't see a way in the ISY to see or modify these device-stored links. I have no desire to make the situation more complex and change them into a group controlled by the ISY so that it has to get involved every time I turn on a hall light, so if that is the only way to do it, I'd like to see this added to a future release of the interface. Again, ISY does not get involved at all; the links are between devices and the PLM. And, the only reason there's a link to the PLM is to "sense" when someone presses a button (ie. PLM slave, the buttons master). To be honest, Sean, the whole point of ISY was to hide all these link records intricacies from the users. Am I missing something? I've also noticed some of my existing device-stored links mysteriously disappearing, so I'll have to keep an eye on that to figure out what is going on there. When you link with ISY, your existing links do disappear! If you are specifically talking about anothe scenario, please do let us know. We would definitely do whatever it takes to take care of the "missing link"s !I don't think it has happened since I moved to the latest firmware (and replacement device), so maybe that was fixed or was a by-product of my previous, malfunctioning ISY. Has anyone else seen this? Another thing I noticed is that groups turn switches either on or off, but a single group can't do a mixture of ons and offs. I understand but I think what you are describing no longer needs to be a scene/group. No? In other words, I would like to see the ability for a schedule to trigger a scene that turns some lights on and others off rather than the current situation where it is one or the other. It makes sense but I just don't know of an easier way of doing this than to either a) create a schedule for each individual device those that are to be on or off should have their own group c) if you have any other ideas? I think someone else mentioned that the ability to turn on a light for a certain amount of time, after which it would turn off, would be nice. I have a scene called "Night On" which turns on some lights at low intensity to get ready for bed, and another one a few minutes later called "Bedtime Off" which turns those same lights back off. If it could turn them off automatically, I could do this with a single scene and schedule instead of two. YES! We shall have this implemented. I'm actually kind of glad you folks decided to not bother too much with the floor plan thing. That function will use up all your programming time if you let it, and in the end it is mostly good for pretty screenshots rather than usability. The ability to group devices by room would do the same thing, be easier to program, and much more usable. Something like this: + Living Room ____Living Room Main Light ____Living Room Switched Outlet ____Living Room Brass Lamp + Family Room Agreed Priority-wise, I'd like to see the internal link thing first. Just 'cause that one is the hardest to implement. Just kidding! Actually, mostly because that is the main reason I can see still powering up my existing software packages. Seems like if it could do that, it would drastically lessen the need to bring up Powerhome or HouseLinc. Plus, I need it to investigate my mysteriously missing links which are lowering my wife acceptance factor. We don't want that! I'd appreciate it if you could provide more details vis-a-vis the missing links (this is getting to sound more and more like a Darwinian movie: I guess pretty soon we'll get into natural selection of devices and scenes!). Sean, thanks so very much for your input. With regards,
Sub-Routine Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 WHOOAH ....... Another thing I noticed is that groups turn switches either on or off, but a single group can't do a mixture of ons and offs. I understand but I think what you are describing no longer needs to be a scene/group. No? Sean, thanks so very much for your input. With regards, Oh, but, groups, when called on, can turn some switches on and others off. You only need to include the device in the scene and set it's level to zero. I have several groups that do exactly that. Rand
Michel Kohanim Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 WHOOAH ....... Another thing I noticed is that groups turn switches either on or off, but a single group can't do a mixture of ons and offs. I understand but I think what you are describing no longer needs to be a scene/group. No? Sean, thanks so very much for your input. With regards, Oh, but, groups, when called on, can turn some switches on and others off. You only need to include the device in the scene and set it's level to zero. I have several groups that do exactly that. Sub-Routine!!!!! Wow, how did you come up with that? Thanks so very very much ... you are great! With regards, Rand
Mark Sanctuary Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 Since there seems to be so many that want the tree to be improved...can it be drag and drop and be able to go as deep as needed into the tree. + Network + Schedule + Triggers + My Lighting ______+ Living Room ____________Main Light ____________Switched Outlet ____________Brass Lamp ______+ Family Room ____________Switched Outlet __________+ Keypad Main Lights ________________A: Family Room On ________________B: Family Room Off ________________C: All On ________________D: All Off ______+ Bedroom Room ____________Main Light ____________Switched Outlet ____________Bed Lamp __________+ Bedroom Bath ________________Light ________________Fan + My Scenes ______+ Family Room On Scene ______+ Family Room Off Scene ______+ All On Scene ______+ All Off Scene
Michel Kohanim Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 Since there seems to be so many that want the tree to be improved...can it be drag and drop and be able to go as deep as needed into the tree. + Network + Schedule + Triggers + My Lighting ______+ Living Room ____________Main Light ____________Switched Outlet ____________Brass Lamp ______+ Family Room ____________Switched Outlet __________+ Keypad Main Lights ________________A: Family Room On ________________B: Family Room Off ________________C: All On ________________D: All Off ______+ Bedroom Room ____________Main Light ____________Switched Outlet ____________Bed Lamp __________+ Bedroom Bath ________________Light ________________Fan + My Scenes ______+ Family Room On Scene ______+ Family Room Off Scene ______+ All On Scene ______+ All Off Scene Mark, wow .. this looks very good. I like it. Now, the only question is how to prioritize it ... we could very well put it in a release with other functions. I have to see. Thanks so very much ... With regards,
Guest Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 This is a pretty small request, but when the system busy window appears, it is defaulted to always on top. So if I "Restore Devices" and want to surf the web while ISY is working, I have to move the "System Busy" window off to the side. It would be nice if it was only on top when the GUI is the active window.
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