New user, two questions: Conditions and Polyglot

[PPesPePe]

Hello everyone, 

This is my very first post, I've been an ISY user for less than two months... perhaps less than one. I use three different HA software but was very curious about ISY so... Here I am... ?

Anyway, I wanted to make two questions:

1- Programming: Is there a way to create a trigger of the likes of: If device is switched on instead of status is on? I need to create a trigger when the status change and not while is on or off.

2- I have an always on Mac mini and I wanted to try Polyglot installed on that Mac but failed miserably finding Mac specific documentation. 

Thanks in advance!

PP

[lilyoyo1]

3 minutes ago, PPesPePe said:

Hello everyone, 

This is my very first post, I've been an ISY user for less than two months... perhaps less than one. I use three different HA software but was very curious about ISY so... Here I am... ?

Anyway, I wanted to make two questions:

1- Programming: Is there a way to create a trigger of the likes of: If device is switched on instead of status is on? I need to create a trigger when the status change and not while is on or off.

2- I have an always on Mac mini and I wanted to try Polyglot installed on that Mac but failed miserably finding Mac specific documentation. 

Thanks in advance!

PP

If whatever device you are using allows for control then you can do it based off the physical press of the device. You would simply select control instead of status.

 

[PPesPePe]

Awesome! It worked... So I guess control is receiving the control message and status is... the actual status of the device... Makes sense and it even changes to switch once submitted.

Thanks Lilyoyo1!

PP

[asbril]

@lilyoyo1 That used to work for me before 5.2, but no longer.

[PPesPePe]

23 minutes ago, asbril said:

@lilyoyo1 That used to work for me before 5.2, but no longer.

If it helps, I’m using 5.2 

PP

[larryllix]

9 minutes ago, PPesPePe said:

If it helps, I’m using 5.2 

PP

Status and control switched both work off events or changes only. ISY is all event triggered logic so there is no looping or polling of devices.

If the status or the control switched does not change the program does not run.

For a Insteon switchlinc device, the Control Switched On/Off detect the tap of the paddle by a human. The status is the level of brightness of the dimmer electronics.

Status can detect the change of the dimmer electronics, no matter where it came from. Control switched only detects the signal from the paddle, even though the dimmer level didn't change, the paddle did, so five taps on the paddle will trigger a program five times and it will start over again, each time. This is good for retriggerable timers to keep lights on longer, etc..

 

[asbril]

7 hours ago, larryllix said:

Status and control switched both work off events or changes only. ISY is all event triggered logic so there is no looping or polling of devices.

If the status or the control switched does not change the program does not run.

For a Insteon switchlinc device, the Control Switched On/Off detect the tap of the paddle by a human. The status is the level of brightness of the dimmer electronics.

Status can detect the change of the dimmer electronics, no matter where it came from. Control switched only detects the signal from the paddle, even though the dimmer level didn't change, the paddle did, so five taps on the paddle will trigger a program five times and it will start over again, each time. This is good for retriggerable timers to keep lights on longer, etc..

 

@larryllix Excellent explanation, except that my programs using Control no longer work as before 5.2

[larryllix]

12 minutes ago, asbril said:

@larryllix Excellent explanation, except that my programs using Control no longer work as before 5.2

I was posting to the OP PPesPepe.

Have you tried refreshing your programs by selecting each line and then clicking update to rewrite each line, then Save? I have found over the years of versions sometimes what you see is not what you get behind the scenes after an upgrade in firmware. Sometimes indicated in yellow icons, and sometimes not.

[asbril]

21 minutes ago, larryllix said:

I was posting to the OP PPesPepe.

Have you tried refreshing your programs by selecting each line and then clicking update to rewrite each line, then Save? I have found over the years of versions sometimes what you see is not what you get behind the scenes after an upgrade in firmware. Sometimes indicated in yellow icons, and sometimes not.

These are virtual 3-way programs that are supposed to only work when the switches are manually pressed, so that I can still turn those lights On/Off individually through the Administrative Console. That worked fine up to (and including) 5.0.16  .   @Chris Jahn suggested that I use the Button Press Nodes, but that did not work either. I re-wrote the programs several times, trying everything that I could think of, but no luck, and finally I changed the programs with Status. It is not a major inconvenience, but hopefully this will be addressed in a next update.