siegeld Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 Are there any plans for a Z-Wave version of ISY? Quote
Michel Kohanim Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 siegeld, Yes there are! Hopefully by 2Q2008 (or sooner). With kind regards, Michel Are there any plans for a Z-Wave version of ISY? Quote
Mark Sanctuary Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 Is it a separate new controller or is it going to be in the ISY-26? Quote
Michel Kohanim Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 Mark, It's a separate device. With kind regards, Michel Is it a separate new controller or is it going to be in the ISY-26? Quote
Mark Sanctuary Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 No worries here because I am an Insteon dude and don't plan mixing the two. Quote
C Martin Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 Mark, There is a saying ... be careful what you ask for.... and so on. And we, as consumers, are not asking for what is coming our way. Unfortunately, ZWave is a standard that has been accepted by utilty companies in several states. They are going to use this standard to communicate between your utility meter and the newer "Smart Appliances" in the near future. We are about to enter a new era of electric utility billing - TOD (Time of Day) or "Time of use" billing. Another way to squeeze more money from the consumers. Businesses are currently being billed with the TOD rates. So, this standard should not be ignored. For the benefit of all Home Automation users, this is something to be aware of. Sorry if this sounds a little harsh or rough, it is not intended that way. I just get a little wrapped up in things, sometimes. Clarence Quote
Michel Kohanim Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 C Martin, Very interesting! Do you have links/info on which states have agreed on using ZWave for their intelligent meters? This will be quite an interesting read and I would sincerely appreciate it. In short, I agree with you except for the "squeezing money part" ... I certainly do believe that "TOB" and Demand Response programs actually save consumers money. With kind regards, Michel Mark,There is a saying ... be careful what you ask for.... and so on. And we, as consumers, are not asking for what is coming our way. Unfortunately, ZWave is a standard that has been accepted by utilty companies in several states. They are going to use this standard to communicate between your utility meter and the newer "Smart Appliances" in the near future. We are about to enter a new era of electric utility billing - TOD (Time of Day) or "Time of use" billing. Another way to squeeze more money from the consumers. Businesses are currently being billed with the TOD rates. So, this standard should not be ignored. For the benefit of all Home Automation users, this is something to be aware of. Sorry if this sounds a little harsh or rough, it is not intended that way. I just get a little wrapped up in things, sometimes. Clarence Quote
Mark Sanctuary Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 Do you have links/info on which states have agreed on using ZWave for their intelligent meters? Wow! I too would like to read up on this...links please. Quote
C Martin Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 I will find the info and post any links that I can find. I know people in the industry who can provide some of the info. Quote
Michel Kohanim Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 C Martin, That would be excellent. Thanks so very much. With kind regards, Michel I will find the info and post any links that I can find. I know people in the industry who can provide some of the info. Quote
C Martin Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 I know that Cailfornia is one of the states and I believe the San Diego area is one of the first areas that will do Time of Use billing. Quote
Michel Kohanim Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 C Martin, Yes, true but as far as I know, they have not yet agreed on the standard (ZWave or otherwise) to be used. It's all open for discussion/debate and I think all protocols have an equal chance of succeeding. Have you heard otherwise? With kind regards, Michel I know that Cailfornia is one of the states and I believe the San Diego area is one of the first areas that will do Time of Use billing. Quote
C Martin Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 Now, some of these are from Metering industry people and some are giving the perspective from the Utility. There are more and some of the Consumer advocacy groups also provide information. There are a lot of sites and lots of viewpoints depending on where you stand. I am a bit sensitive to the conumer's point of view because of the problems that we had in California with the deregulation crisis that we had. I alos spent 26 years working for Southern Californis Edison - one of the majpr utilities in California as well as being one of largest utilities in the UAS. http://www.metering.com/node/10680 http://www.trilliantnetworks.com/news/p ... 0507a.html http://publicservice.vermont.gov/planni ... ressed.pdf http://www.itron.com/pages/news_press_i ... 015789.xml http://www.energetics.com/madri/toolbox ... fornia.pdf http://www.isa.org/InTechTemplate.cfm?S ... ntID=44015 I was given one other link that is very interesting but I need to recover it. There is a lot of reading - Have Fun! But being a Home Automation type of person I am interested in all aspects of the industry - Good or Bad. Information is the key to good decision making. Quote
Michel Kohanim Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 C Martin, Thanks so very much for the links! But being a Home Automation type of person I am interested in all aspects of the industry - Good or Bad. Information is the key to good decision making. I totally AGREE! With kind regards, Michel Quote
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