DaveStLou Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, carealtor said: Yet. The day of reckoning will come eventually. Always good to have options. I really like that YIO's open source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, DaveStLou said: Very interesting. Since I have 4 working Harmony Hubs, probably not for me. Apparently it's hub-less itself, and can utilize your existing hubs if you have them. It comes down to whether you like the look and feel better than logitechs handheld portion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilyoyo1 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 58 minutes ago, carealtor said: Yet. The day of reckoning will come eventually. By the time they becomes an issue, there will be something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilyoyo1 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 53 minutes ago, MrBill said: Apparently it's hub-less itself, and can utilize your existing hubs if you have them. It comes down to whether you like the look and feel better than logitechs handheld portion. I like it though I'd take a wait and see approach. I still remember the Savant consumer remote fiasco fondly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveStLou Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 Interesting obituary of the Harmony line from Wired: How the Smart Remote Lost Its Way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 10:47 AM, carealtor said: This looks kind of promising: https://www.yio-remote.com/ Did anyone order a YIO? The kickstarter campagian started today and the project funded quickly https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/marton/remote-two/pledge/new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryllix Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Cool gadget for those that like those remote styles yet. With all the promised cool gadget potential there ,I can't believe they missed the induction charger all phones are getting moved too. So much easier and doen't need a connector to break/wear out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gzahar Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Deliveries are showing July 2022, so won't get much feedback for awhile. Charging looks to be similar to the Harmony Elites, so shouldn't be any issues with power connector breaking. My biggest issue is getting people to put the remote back on the charger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo.Automates Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I was very tempted, but didn't. Been bitten by a couple Kickstarters that failed so couldn't do it. Will wait and pay more if it actually ships someday.Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 I'm still debating, I'll be watching the kickstarter as the allocations fill. Its open until Oct 31st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolakisl Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Damn near identical to my harmony elite. If Logitech is bailing, and if someone else thinks this is still a viable market (ie Yio), I have to wonder why Logitech didn't sell the Harmony line. It would seem that Logitech is just dumping the line for nothing, no matter what they would sell it for, that would be more than zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carealtor Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, apostolakisl said: Damn near identical to my harmony elite. If Logitech is bailing, and if someone else thinks this is still a viable market (ie Yio), I have to wonder why Logitech didn't sell the Harmony line. It would seem that Logitech is just dumping the line for nothing, no matter what they would sell it for, that would be more than zero. Couldn't agree more. So far, it doesn't seem Logitech cares to listen. It has become obvious to me that niche products need to be produced by niche companies. A niche company's profits on a product is a large company's tiny fraction of profit/loss. Harmony was a niche company and Logitech bought it and ultimately gave it up because it represented only a tiny fraction of their revenue. Harmony could thrive again on it's own, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolakisl Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, carealtor said: Couldn't agree more. So far, it doesn't seem Logitech cares to listen. It has become obvious to me that niche products need to be produced by niche companies. A niche company's profits on a product is a large company's tiny fraction of profit/loss. Harmony was a niche company and Logitech bought it and ultimately gave it up because it represented only a tiny fraction of their revenue. Harmony could thrive again on it's own, IMHO. My only other thought on the matter is, perhaps, no one is willing to pay for the Logitech brand because of the cost of taking care of the current customers, from whom, they have had no income and may never have income. Or perhaps Logitech is concerned that it will reflect poorly on them if the new company fails to properly care for the customers who will then blame Logitech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryllix Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 20 minutes ago, apostolakisl said: My only other thought on the matter is, perhaps, no one is willing to pay for the Logitech brand because of the cost of taking care of the current customers, from whom, they have had no income and may never have income. Or perhaps Logitech is concerned that it will reflect poorly on them if the new company fails to properly care for the customers who will then blame Logitech. Killed any competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patryk.szady Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I have harmony hubs for each tv connected to fire tv / cubes and using harmony remotes to control the fire tv ui via bluetooth. The equipment control on the fire tvs is off and solely controlled with harmony. I'm using the Polisy nodeserver to connect to ISY. The nodeserver works well; the harmony remote controlling the fire tv UI and my AV boxes is another story - it's a hit or miss, sometimes the volume with a normal press escapes to max or min, same with the fire tv ui. When it works it does so well but it's so unpredictable. Has anyone experienced this or similar behavior? Ideally, I would love to get rid of the harmony remotes and use the small fire tv remotes to control my AV for each tv setup. Alexa is so restrictive, and I would need to figure out a way to get the status of each tv so I can communicate with ISY and in turn my kepads and so on. I'm also tried to utilize Harmony hubs in my setup in the background unfortunately there's not a way for Harmony to know and tell me if a certain device was toggled. The nodeserver only knows when an activity is turned on and turning on fire tv remote would only turn on devices separately. Any insights would be great to get me on the right track. Thanks, Patryk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilyoyo1 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 hours ago, patryk.szady said: I have harmony hubs for each tv connected to fire tv / cubes and using harmony remotes to control the fire tv ui via bluetooth. The equipment control on the fire tvs is off and solely controlled with harmony. I'm using the Polisy nodeserver to connect to ISY. The nodeserver works well; the harmony remote controlling the fire tv UI and my AV boxes is another story - it's a hit or miss, sometimes the volume with a normal press escapes to max or min, same with the fire tv ui. When it works it does so well but it's so unpredictable. Has anyone experienced this or similar behavior? Ideally, I would love to get rid of the harmony remotes and use the small fire tv remotes to control my AV for each tv setup. Alexa is so restrictive, and I would need to figure out a way to get the status of each tv so I can communicate with ISY and in turn my kepads and so on. I'm also tried to utilize Harmony hubs in my setup in the background unfortunately there's not a way for Harmony to know and tell me if a certain device was toggled. The nodeserver only knows when an activity is turned on and turning on fire tv remote would only turn on devices separately. Any insights would be great to get me on the right track. Thanks, Patryk I can't speak on your volume issues. I control the source of my volume which would be either the tv, receiver, or sound bar depending on room. I have no issues with any of them. Did you turn off CEC on your devices? If not, that could potentially be an issue. Not knowing what equipment you have limits what potential options you may have. Saying you have issues with Alexa UI doesn't give any insight either. It's kind of hard to diagnose and fix a problem when you don't know what it is. Since your devices are IR based, harmony wouldn't know what's going on with them. You would need rs232 control for 2 way communication. Some Tvs (depending on year/model) have up control. My LG TVs can be turned on/off via IP. With that said, status takes some time to update (if using the nodeserver). It's setup as a backup for me just in case but since Harmony works well, i can't even say if it still works after all this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patryk.szady Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 @lilyoyo1 thanks for the CEC suggestions. Didn't think of that before and disabled everywhere. I found what the issue it I believe. I have multiple hubs in my AV closet for each TV area. When 2 are used at the same time the hubs send many IR commands at the same time delaying the clicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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