February 17, 201015 yr Hello all, We are trying to identify all the issues with ISY/2413S combination. As of right now, we have pinpointed the major cause of communication issues with 2413s: V1 thermostat adapters. In the presence of V1 thermostat adapters (the more, the worse the reliability of the PLM) communications reliability gets so bad that almost all communications have to be repeated multiple times before succeeding. Once V1 thermostats are removed, everything seems to be working fine (just a little slower than 2412S in communications but not as noticeable). Any help and feedback would be appreciated. With kind regards, Michel
February 17, 201015 yr I thought that the limited memory in the 2413S made it a non-starter? Also what about the lack of power... does this mean going back to an external wall wart?
February 17, 201015 yr Well the early 2412S PLM has less than half the link database memory as the 2413S has now. 414 entries sounds like what it was. Latest 2412S is 2016 if memory serves me. I see that they found the V1 Thermostat Adapter was one of the causes of the 2413S problems.
February 17, 201015 yr Author Hello upstatemike, For large installations, 2413S would not work. For smaller installation (say 70 to 100 devices and not too many scenes), 2413S might be an option. We are still testing. ISY needs to be powered by an external power supply. With kind regards, Michel
February 21, 201015 yr Hi Michel, I'm about to place a large order for Insteon and an ISY. It will be all Insteon, but still a fairly small installation. No V1 thermostat. From what you've seen now and if you were starting from scratch, would you recommend getting the new 2413S or the old 2412S? Thanks.
February 21, 201015 yr Author Hi auger66, I can say that from our testing in the lab, 2413s works fine as long as you do not have any V1 thermostats. The read/write operations are not as smooth as 2412s but they are not noticeable. There's one odd thing that is happening in the lab for which we have not yet been able to find a cure: Dual Band lamp linc turns on by itself and then turns back off. Apart from the above 2, I think 2413s is safe but, then again, it has not been as thoroughly tested as 2412s. With kind regards, Michel
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