Smart Edison style bulbs NS?

[jkraus]

Is there any node server for edison style light bulbs.  I have KASA and works great, however the edison (filament style) bulbs seems to be discontinued.  There are many Edison style smart bulbs (the market seems to be be flooded with them lately), but not sure if any are controlled by polisy like Kasa is.

Thx

Joe

[firstone]

Unless it's a manufacturer with lots of different products and widely used, it's unlikely. If it's not part of the standard, each manufacturer is likely to have their own protocol. You'd need to write NS for each one And like you said, market is flooded with different brands. Maybe a better solution is to buy dumb bulb and use a smart switch?

[MrBill]

Looks like there a plenty of Edison style bulbs in the Phillips hue lineup.  Which also means other zigbee bulbs might be compatible via a Hue Bridge.  Eventually when zigbee and matter support comes to life, there should be plenty of options.

[firstone]

Hue integration via Hue NS is superb.

[jkraus]

Yea, hear good things about Hue, but just didn't want to add yet another hub.

Thx

Joe-

Edited January 24, 2023 by jkraus

[larryllix]

I use MagicHome protocol bulbs. They require some bridging software which I run inside my polisy, or you can try the MagicHome NS. It was a take-off via another programmer into a NS.

They produce good dual white light as well as RGB and typically run about $8 each without any hub required. They come in 5W, 7W and 9W bulbs as well as BR-30 style and LEDenet RGBW strips, and many dual white floor lamps.

[jkraus]

Thanks.  They look similar to the Kasa ones, but was looking for Edison style, but good to know

[larryllix]

2 minutes ago, jkraus said:

Thanks.  They look similar to the Kasa ones, but was looking for Edison style, but good to know

Except for the LED strips and BR-30 bulbs, they are all Edison style bulbs, as far as I understand the style.

Here is one of the many. These are both WiFi and BT interface.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0948YYG4P/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_4?smid=A3ONNTHJ5O4KNF&psc=1

 

[jkraus]

Sorry, I mean this style:

https://www.amazon.com/Dimmable-Edison-Equivalent-Standard-Filament/dp/B09QPYKZ3H/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=23ARQ9TJS38TP&keywords=edison%2Bbulbs&qid=1674658280&sprefix=edison%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-1-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExUzlTTzJPUkFHME9IJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUExMDIzNzIzMkFQRTVBUDVGV082TCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMTgwOTAwMTlJN1FIOTRRQjM0NSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1

 

 

[firstone]

Since those are just dimmable lights, rather than some smart RGB, why not just get Insteon or zwave dimmer and use "dumb" bulbs? I guess I'm missing the point of why they need to be smart? If it's some shared circuit, maybe micro dimmer.

[jkraus]

good question.  The lights are controlled by a switch that needs to be on all of the time as other thing are on the circuit, so the light need to have embedded in-line insteon dimmers, and I thought the micro dimmers were only if there was a switch at the light

Edited January 25, 2023 by jkraus

[firstone]

47 minutes ago, jkraus said:

good question.  The lights are controlled by a switch that needs to be on all of the time as other thing are on the circuit, so the light need to have embedded in-line insteon dimmers, and I thought the micro dimmers were only if there was a switch at the light

It's the other way around. Micro dimmer needs constant power. 

If you can find a place to "cut" the line and install micro dimmer, you don't need a switch. Like if there's a bx that goes from box to box and you can disconnect part, you can put micro dimmer into the box you need. You can just control via ISY or install switch any other place and use that to control.

Another alternative would be to have 2 micro dimmers and have your current switch control one of them and just hardwire the line.