Best place to see list of available plug ins ?

[junkycosmos]

Where is the best place to see the list of available plug-in programs for the EISY?
 

 

[Guy Lavoie]

Right here:

https://polyglot.universal-devices.com/

[junkycosmos]

thanks much, do appreciate it -  my post here was only after 30mins hunting around on the forums coming from long time ISY994 new EISY user.

 

 Not meaning to give anyone a hard time but the branding here needs work  ... are these PG3 Nodes, EISY Plugins, or perhaps EISY Integrations .. I suppose part of that is are we running EISY or PG3 and ISY .. or ya we just lost 95% of the new market in this line .. 

 

OK for others .. (correct me here if wrong please)

ISY -> EISY -> hosting PG3 (which loads NODE SEVERS) as plugins and which the ISY can then pickup.  

Now is the ISY actually running as a NODE on the PG3 or as image on EISY ?

 

 

UDI Integration Store / PG3 Node Servers / EISY Plugins 

https://polyglot.universal-devices.com/

 

 

also the store could use some work too 

 

example Home Assistant integrations gives 

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/#all

 

 

 

 

[paulbates]

The eisy currently comes with 2 environments.. 

1. iox = the ISY that we know and love
2. pg3x = plugins = node servers = the way for additional integrations to use

The pg3x environment is on iox under the plugins menu. It will launch a browser to the pg3x instance on your eisy. It also has the plugins store and allows you to install the individual plugins to pg3x and connect them to iox

There's a 3rd environment on the way... eisy will host the web version of iox java client that is used currently. Parts of that were installed in the recent upgrade but it hasn't been launched yet

Edited 6 hours ago by paulbates

[Guy Lavoie]

I know, the terms are confusing, and overlap somewhat. I'm only about 8 months into being a UD user so the learning curve is still fresh in my mind.

ISY used to be the name of the device itself (ie: ISY994i, and some previous models. Then they went from a custom box to a more general platform running FreeBSD Unix, (first the Polisy, then the eisy). The only product sold now is the eisy.

The term ISY is still mentioned now and then, but we generally say IoX instead. IoX is the application that runs on the Unix machine, giving us the automation controller capabilities. A bit like you'd say running MS Word running on Windows. 

PG3 is the development and runtime environment that allows external programs (plugins) to add functionality to IoX.

[bpwwer]

1 hour ago, junkycosmos said:

OK for others .. (correct me here if wrong please)

ISY -> EISY -> hosting PG3 (which loads NODE SEVERS) as plugins and which the ISY can then pickup.  

Now is the ISY actually running as a NODE on the PG3 or as image on EISY ?

No question that the branding/documentation needs work.  For many years, the emphasis has been on getting things functional and stable with the limited resources available.

UDI products consist of a hardware/software solution and a lot of the terminology gets intermixed.  But there are really 3 distinct solutions:

1) ISYi994  family of devices.  This was micro-controller based solution running custom firmware designed to support primarily Insteon and Z-wave devices.  Commonly referred to as an ISY

2) Polisy family of devices.  This was the first generation built on a general purpose platform.  It is a small computer running custom software created by UDI.  The software component is typically called IoX.  IoX is a re-write of the custom firmware for the ISY so that it can run on a normal computing platform.

3) eisy family of devices.  This is the second generation of the hardware platform.  It is again, a general purpose computer but is faster and more capable than the Polisy platform.  It runs the IoX software component.

The IoX component continues to support Insteon and Z-wave devices and has continued to expand to include zigbee and matter. 

The last major iteration of the ISY firmware and all versions of IoX also support the ability to support additional types of devices through the use of a plug-in/integration architecture known collectively as polyglot.  The current polyglot release is called PG3x.

The polyglot instance (or PG3x) is a software component that runs on either a Polisy platform or an eisy platform and integrates with IoX.   PG3x provides the plug-in store where you can get/purchase support for additional devices and device types beyond what is included in the IoX software.  A large number of these plug-ins are written and maintained by third parties, not UDI.

A long term goal is to combine IoX and PG3x into a single, fully integrated software stack.  

In addition to the above, there's also a software component called the Admin Console, which is written in Java and designed to provide a user interface for the ISY firmware and IoX software.   A recent announce indicated that a new version of the Admin Console that is written as a web application will be available soon, removing the dependency on Java.  This new user interface application is possibly built off the work done to create the IOS and Android UD Mobile application. 

[Goose66]

Also, PG3x hosts “plugins.” They are no longer called “node servers.” And they were NEVER CALLED “NODES.” A node is an element in the node tree in IoX/ISY/Admin Console that represents a device. There are nodes representing Insteon and Zwave (and now Matter) devices in the node tree created and managed natively by IoX. A plugin interfaces with other devices and creates nodes in IoX to allow the devices to be controlled and statuses to be obtained. 
/rant 🤪

[larryllix]

1 hour ago, Goose66 said:

Also, PG3x hosts “plugins.” They are no longer called “node servers.” And they were NEVER CALLED “NODES.” A node is an element in the node tree in IoX/ISY/Admin Console that represents a device. There are nodes representing Insteon and Zwave (and now Matter) devices in the node tree created and managed natively by IoX. A plugin interfaces with other devices and creates nodes in IoX to allow the devices to be controlled and statuses to be obtained. 
/rant 🤪

Thanks Goosgle!  

Goose gives little hints called....

 

.....goslings!

Edited 1 hour ago by larryllix