Hello All,

This may actually be two different topics - but perhaps related?

I have recently installed some I3 Paddles into my set up - (all devices in my insteon network are used for light control - no sensors or anything like that).

I have recently noticed that sometimes some lights will turn on by themselves.....based upon what I can tell it is certain parts of the system that contain an I3 paddle.

Some of these I3 paddles are in mixed scenes (what I mean by mixed is that a scene may contain the I3 as well as a KeyPadLink (2487S), and or 2477S or 2477D) - not sure if that has anything to do with it.

The second item (perhaps related) is that I will sometimes have all the lights physically "off" in these scenes with these I3 Paddles - yet the EISY "thinks" they are on - I have some programs that check the state of these devices (program "if" statement is simply "if device_x is off") - and this shows as "false" - even though the lights are off. When this happens if I physically click the bottom of the paddles or switches in the scenes - then nothing physically happens (as the lights are already "off" - but the EISY then "sees" that they are off and the state of the programs change to being "true".

Does anyone have any thoughts/knowledge/ideas about things like this happening and what I could possibly do to resolve these issues?

Thanks!

One thing I know for certain, the responding to the dreaded "All On" function was removed from these devices. I tested it several times with the "All On" button on the bottom of iox's network view. All other devices came on and i3's did nothing.

Things I did find about the i3's

• Like all Insteon devices, that can come with links already in them. I had to factory reset several of ~35 i3 paddles I installed over initial behavioral problems.

• Each i3 has a separate flags node with even more settings in them and sometimes they are set the opposite of what you think. As an example I have is an i3 paddle that was as far away as it can be in my house in terms of wire feet from the panel. It wouldn't respond 100%. Looked at the flags, and there is setting to turn OFF its RF??? Bizarre feature, but changing that solved it.

I would pick one. Factory reset it, restore device. Check the Flags node and see if any settings look counter what they should be. Wait and watch.

Edited 7 hours ago7 hr by paulbates