backinthelab Posted August 12, 2011 Posted August 12, 2011 Lee, thanks for the reply. I'll repost this, along with the other information over in the other area tonight, gotta run a few errands first. Quote
Michel Kohanim Posted August 12, 2011 Author Posted August 12, 2011 Hello all, Release 3.1.6 is now available. With kind regards, Michel Quote
Illusion Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 I have 3 t-stats with 1st gen dongles. All three show 'Fan State' as "ON" when all three are in fact "Auto" Quote
Michel Kohanim Posted August 14, 2011 Author Posted August 14, 2011 Hello Illusion, Unfortunately unlike V2 thermostats, V1 thermostats do NOT report the correct status of FAN (there's no way to query them either) especially if you change them on the thermostat itself. With kind regards, Michel Quote
j0dan Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 - Scene on levels and ramp rates will not take when scene is selected. I'm getting "Error: Request Failed" when attempting to adjust. They don't save when I return to the scene. Hi backinthelab. I believe we're seeing a very similar problem! See my thread here: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6668&start=0 Do you mind seeing if your link tables between the device and ISY don't match as well? Keep in mind that after a "restore device" the links should match, but may be incorrect. Quote
polexian Posted August 19, 2011 Posted August 19, 2011 Are you sill going to make announcements here.I do not twitter and don't want to start now. I don't do twitter either but it is a lot easier to pull up one web page then search through a forum. Good move guys! --- - Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Illusion Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 When I add an I/O Linc Relay to a scene, it adds it at 0% reversing the logic. I think it should be added at 100% like other devices but that is not my core concern. The main problem is that now the ISY status of the device is always wrong until a query. I do not have trigger reverse selected. I add the relay node to a scene. It is in at 0% by default. If I turn the scene on, the ISY will report the status of the device as on, when in fact it is off. If I turn the scene off the relay will turn on, but the ISY will report the device as off. In either case when I manually query or the nightly query takes place, the status of the device will change to its actual condition, running any programs that look to this device for conditions. I do not have a concern with the flipping of the conditions, just with the ISY being incorrect about the status of the device. Quote
LeeG Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 The ISY is reporting the last command sent to the I/O Linc relay. The fact that the relay turns On with an Off command and Off with an On command is not a consideration, it is only reflecting the last command issued. The Relay status as reported by the ISY will also be wrong when using one of the Momentary modes as the I/O Linc turns the Relay Off and does not notify the ISY of the change. Like the Trigger Reverse situation, Query returns the true state of the Sensor and the true state of the relay regardless of the command that got it that way. The only way to prevent the state switch with a Query is to run without Trigger Reverse on the Sensor and 100% On Level with the Relay. There is no work around for Momentary mode turning the Relay Off short of doing a Query. Quote
Illusion Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 I understand. Then allow me to amend my concern to the UI defaulting to setting the level of the relay to 0% when adding to scenes. If we are going to do something that messes up statuses it would be nice if it were something in which we had to actively participate. I know I assumed that adding the relay to the scene would have the relay turn on when the scene were turned on, and off when the scene was turned off. It was indeed an easy fix, but I think the default is counter-intuitive. I was shocked when my system woke me up in the early am due to an alarm because the HVAC system was running when it should not have been. I had not paid attention to the on level the relay defaulted to when adding to the scene. I assumed it would add at 100% like other devices. Edit: Wait. Lee, I added a lamp to a scene. I adjusted its scene level to 0%. I turned the lamp on. Status shows 100%. I turn the scene on, status changes to off as the lamp turns off. Why would not the same logic work and make sense for a relay? Quote
LeeG Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 I agree completely with the thought the On Level should default to 100% for the I/O Linc relay. The LampLinc and most other Insteon devices do not command reverse when the On Level is 0%. A Scene On turns the LampLinc On to the specified On Level which at 0% is Off. A Scene Off turns the LampLinc Off regardless of the On Level. The I/O Linc is actually command reversal. With 100% On level a Scene On command turns the relay On, a Scene Off command turns the relay Off. At 0% On Level the commands are reversed. A Scene On turns the relay Off, a Scene Off turns the relay On. The ISY could mark the Relay status based on a combination of command executed and On Level. The Scene definition would have to be accessed for both On commands (which is done today for most devices) and Off commands which is unique to the I/O Linc. Something for UDI to comment On. Perhaps posting an entry under the requirements topic. The relay status would remain wrong when using Momentary mode. Quote
Illusion Posted August 29, 2011 Posted August 29, 2011 I get it. The ISY is not treating the relay of an I/O Linc like it is treating the relay inside of an ApplianceLinc. Thanks for the explanation. Quote
LeeG Posted August 30, 2011 Posted August 30, 2011 The hardware does not respond the same between a LampLinc relay and the I/O Linc relay. A Scene Off to a LampLinc always turns the LampLinc Off. The Scene Off to an I/O Linc may turn the I/O Linc relay On or it may turn the I/O Linc relay Off. Quote
Illusion Posted August 30, 2011 Posted August 30, 2011 Thanks for yet another clarification. Good to understand the subtleties of the situation. Quote
Illusion Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 When adjusting a device level in a scene, I am unable to get the value to take if I want it to be 0% (off). I have found if I adjust the slider to some arbitrary level other than 0% and then adjust the setting it works. It appears that I have to get the ISY to write a level other than 0% first. Then I can set any level I like including 0% Quote
Michel Kohanim Posted September 18, 2011 Author Posted September 18, 2011 Hello Illusion, Can you try the 3.1.7 UI and let me know if you have the same issue? http://www.universal-devices.com/99i/3.1.7 Please note that you do not have to upgrade the firmware to test the 3.1.7 UI. With kind regards, Michel Quote
Illusion Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Confirmed using the UI from the link provided. Quote
Michel Kohanim Posted September 18, 2011 Author Posted September 18, 2011 Thanks Illusion. With kind regards, Michel Quote
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