Feature Request - ELK Module Exit Key

[IndyMike]

The ELK Keypads include an Exit key that can be programmed to allow an exit delay while the system is in "armed stay" mode. This allows you to temporarily place the system in "hold mode" while you let the pet out, or run out to get the mail.

 

It would be really nice to program a KPL to activate the exit delay but I can't see a way to activate the Exit delay from the ISY Elk interface. Could this be added?

 

Thanks,

IM

[apostolakisl]

You could program a zone bypass.

[IndyMike]

Hello Lou,

 

Time for me to show my ignorance, I didn't think you could program a bypass after the system was armed - can you?

 

I tried running the following with the system armed in stay mode. Set the Elk to allow bypassing of this zone, armed the system, and ran the program. System triggered the alarm. Should this have worked?

 

If
  - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition')

Then
       Set Elk Zone 'Bsmt Patio Lock' Toggle Bypass/Unbypass
       Set Elk Speak Phrase 'Bsmt Patio Lock'
       Set Elk Speak Word 'Bypassed'
       Set Elk Speak Word 'Five'
       Set Elk Speak Word 'Minute'
       Wait  5 minutes 
       Set Elk Zone 'Bsmt Patio Lock' Toggle Bypass/Unbypass
       Set Elk Speak Phrase 'Bsmt Patio Lock'
       Set Elk Speak Word 'Is_armed'

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

[apostolakisl]

You can NOT bypass a zone from the keypad when it is armed.

 

You CAN bypass a zone using Elk rules regardless of armed state.

 

I THINK you can bypass a zone using ISY programs regardless of armed state. (It would seem that if your above program worked, then it is a for sure).

 

I really haven't tried programming Elk rules into ISY yet because there are too many bugs. I can't even arm my system from ISY. So I can't speak from experience.

 

For sure you can write an Elk rule to bypass a zone when a kpl button is pressed. . .well sort of, since the current ISY firmware does not send Insteon device status info to Elk (so Elk is blind to Insteon). You can definitely do it running the previous ISY firmware.

[IndyMike]

Lou,

 

Understood. I can see that the ELK rules allow bypassing a zone based on a automation entry. Unfortunately, I can't trigger one at the moment since my device mapping is hosed.

 

The ISY command does not appear to function with the system armed. With the system disarmed, the ELK does respond to the bypass and allow me to arm the system.

 

I'm also a be squeamish about using the "toggle" command for this. I'm worried that things will get out of synch and I'll leave the zone open. Would much rather see discrete "bypass ON" and "bypass Off" commands.

[apostolakisl]

I have a program on my Elk right now that when I push f4 key it bypasses the door next to that keypad for 15 minutes and lights up the key. After 15 minutes it unbypasses the zone. Or, if I push the key again it unbypasses. I use this to let the dog out. You could do the same program but using a KPL button instead of F4.

 

WHENEVER  KEY F4 ON KEYPAD8 ACTIVATES
           THEN TOGGLE Output 100

WHENEVER  Output 100 STATE IS TURNED ON
           THEN TURN Output 101 ON FOR 15 MINS, RESTART TIMER IF RUNNING
           THEN BYPASS Back Door (Zn 29)

WHENEVER  Output 101 STATE IS TURNED OFF
           THEN TURN Output 100 OFF

WHENEVER  Output 100 STATE IS TURNED OFF
           THEN TURN Output 101 OFF
           THEN UNBYPASS Back Door (Zn 29)

[IndyMike]

Lou,

 

Thank you for the example. I'm waiting for 3.1.13 so I can restore my device mapping (yes I'm lazy). I'll give your example a try with a KPL.

 

I've come to the conclusion that the ISY "toggle bypass" command mimics the Keypad command - It can't be used while the system is active.

 

Thanks again for the help,

IM