Xathros

At the moment, there is no way of sensing motion at the cam and notifying the ISY without a third party monitoring the cam and alerting the ISY via the rest interface. I tested this using my pogoplug. I configured the cams to upload images to the ftp running on my pogoplug. I have a script that watches for files in the ftp folders and issues a rest command to the ISY when files are detected. While this works, the lag from actual motion to ISY reaction was variable from 5 up to 15 seconds and I decided that was more or less useless. Now I just rely on standard motion sensors and other insteon traffic. As for the integration of video and lighting, I have my ISY point my PTZ cams based on motion detected by motion sensors or when certain switches are controlled or garage doors open/close or triggerlincs turn on. If the house is in away mode or vacant mode the ISY enables the record on video motion feature of the cams and if after sunset , ISY brings up suitable lighting so that I can capture a good image of whats going on. If the house was just vacant and not in away mode, after a 2 minute delay, i stop capturing images on video motion detected otherwise I continue to capture until a manual reset. -Xathros

I would choose the one that the load is connected to just in case the lights were turned on with a direct command from the ISY to the load controlling switch/dimmer. -Xathros

Michel- I saw the same thing when I upgraded from the 99 to the 994. I believe I was on 3.2.6 then as well. -Xathros

Hi jmed999- I don't have an ELK or the link between ELK and ISY so I'm just speculating here. Looks to me like the ISY has no reason to look at the IF conditions on most of your programs until an output changes status or the console is asked to display the current status. At this time the IFs are evaluated and either the then or else clauses run. I suspect that the elk outputs are handled by the ISY much like device status where they trigger on a change of status but unlike devices, they do not have an initial status at startup so the first time the ISY looks at them after startup it will trigger as a change regardless of what the status actually was. Again, this is all speculation on my part. The only solution I can think of would be to have a program run at startup then in turn calls each of your other program IF paths to initialize things but this may have the same effect of doing things based on the current condition of the elk outputs. It will just get it over with up front rather than later when you load the console. I have a similar situation where I would get a ton of notifications based on the current state of affairs at startup. My solution was to add a Notification Enable/disable integer variable where 1=enabled, 0=disabled. I set the init to 0. I have a startup program that runs the IF tests on the programs that notify then I set the var to 1 after the tests are done. From there on out I get notified on changes - just not the flood at startup. You didn't post the programs related to Kristen so I can't determine why that one didn't notify when the others did. No else clause on that one maybe? -Xathros

I've been an ISY user for maybe 4 years now and have been on these forums most of that time. I have never before or since found another community as welcoming and friendly as this. After all this time I still learn something new here almost everyday. I'm proud to be a part of this community and a member of the ISY family. -Xathros

Yes, in theory. The issue I alluded to above is related to how the UPS and PLM react to each other. As you have no doubt seen in many other threads here, a UPS can cause significant comm problems if not filtered. If you filter the UPS and your PLM is on the UPS, you have effectively broken you powerline communications between the PLM and the rest of your Insteon network. To resolve this, you would either use a dual band PLM (2413S) on the UPS and an access point not on the UPS but within RF range to bridge the USP/Filter via RF. Best setup in my mind would be 2 access points on opposite phases at the service cabinet and the ISY, PLM (2413), Modem, Router on a shelf next to the service cabinet all on the UPS. If you are still using an older 2412S PLM like me, you could add another access point plugged right into the PLM to jump out over the UPS/Filter via RF. The other issue with the internet test is related to your router. Some routers try to be helpful and cache DNS lookups. If yours does, then the test may indicate a false positive even when your internet is down. This works for me using a dd-wrt based Linksys WRT54-GL and currently with DD-WRT x86 v24-Sp2 running on a mini PC. I think it DID NOT WORK on an Actiontec combo modem/router but that is a vague memory. the fail report may be in that same thread that I linked to earlier. -Xathros

This surprises me from one who likes to tinker such as you. Hehe. Me too, kinda. I do really enjoy the stability and reliability that comes from iOS however. Been down the jailbreak road a few times and have decided that it's not worth the effort. I still have my old Nokia N810 but don't generally carry that anymore. I have been able to do most of what I want externally and just use the iPhone/iPod/iPad to trigger those external scripts/functions. That said, an app like tasker would be most welcome. -Xathros

No need for the network module for this. /REST commands are directly supported by the base ISY configuration. As for TASKER, Dunno, I'm on iOS and us iOS users don't get to have nice things like TASKER since old mother Apple need to save us from ourselves.

I tend to agree and in that vein, I also have a few DS1822's wired back to my CAI Webcontrol to monitor a few critical locations and alert me if out of bounds. Most likely overkill as this is my primary residence and in the last 2 months it's had a total of 5 hours unoccupied but I figured a few extra safeguards for damn near free isn't a bad idea. -Xathros Sorry MstrD! Didn't mean to steal your thread.

I would suspect weak communications if it takes more than one attempt to restore the device. -Xathros

OK. I don't have one of the 2487S KPL's to test with here but I would expect it to work the same as the lower amperage KPL's that I do have. Try right clicking on it's primary node in the network tree and select Query Insteon Engine. After that, return to your program and see if the backlight options are there. -Xathros

Hi jmed999- Power restored is simple. Just write a program to send a notification and make that run at startup. Power out is slightly more complex. Assuming that your insternet (Modem, router, switches) and ISY, PLM are UPS powered (some issues with this), you can write a program as follows: Program: CheckPower If Status [i]Some Insteon Device[/i] is Responding Then wait 2 minutes Run CheckPower (If path) Else Notify - Your Cell - Power Lost As for the internet, I built a test that works for me and some others that depends on a DNS lookup to prove internet connectivity and set a variable. This works for some but depends on the ability to get a true response from an external DNS server without your Router or modem answering from cache. Requires UDI Network resources module. Here is the thread on that: http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=9201&hilit=check+internet -Xathros

Looks to me like you are adjusting House Floods - Kitchen not Stairway KPL. I suspect House Floods - Kitchen are not on a KPL. -Xathros

MstrD- Thanks for the writeup on the Nest. I've been watching those and am very interested in the pogo scripts to translate for the Nest. I'll be watching this for sure. My ISY has become unresponsive on 2 occasions now. I don't think it crashed but rather got too busy with IP network stuff (DirecTV Flooding?) to do anything and required a reboot to recover. I do think a backup plan is always a good idea with critical systems like heat. My backup is an old bimetal mechanical thermostat installed in the basement (most likely place to freeze in my place) set at 50F. This works in parallel with my ISY/Venstar. If the temp in the basement ever gets that low it is because the Venstar/ISY failed to call for heat and the old mechanical thermostat will pick up the slack. I have a second one of these old stats in my breezeway near my pellet stove in SERIES with an IOlinc that I use to simulate a thermostat based on data from the Venstar in the next room. This mechanical stat is set to 80F and will shutdown the pellet stove should the ISY/Venstar/IOLinc fail to. -Xathros

Upgraded from 3.3.7 without any problems. Everything seems ok so far. I'll test the back lights when I get home tonight. -Xathros

The following format works for me: https://myusername:mypass@mydomain.no-i ... 67/cmd/DON -Xathros

I do believe that the time condition of "From Sunset to Sunrise (Same Day)" may be a problem as well. I think you want "From Sunset to Sunrise (Next Day)" -Xathros

I have thought about putting my ISY on a UPS for a while now and keep deciding against it as I have a feeling the ISY will be very unhappy when it can't communicate with anything on my insteon network and be fairly useless in that condition. I do have the ISY notify me at startup and upon internet uplink restored I I do know (after the fact) the the power and/or internet have gone down. -Xathros

Yes. the phones and iPods all disconnect regularly but the reconnect to check for mail every 5-15 minutes thus my 30 minute countdown till vacant. -Xathros

I am using a combination of motion sensors, switch/dimmer activations and WiFi connections from phones/ipods all to feed my occupancy routines. Basically, I have a state variable called Occupied that gets set to 1 anytime it is 0 and an event described above occurs. This starts a 30 minute countdown that gets restarted with any of the above events. If the timer runs out the state variable gets set to 0 (Vacant). I use the Occupied/Vacant status to adjust thermostat, enable/disable my pellet stove, adjust auto timers on various lights and enable/disable image capturing on my IP cameras (Capture on motion enabled for 2 minutes on transition from vacant to occupied when not in AWAY mode) The detection of Phones/iPods is done using my dd-wrt router and polling the ARP table for specific MAC addresses. There is a good thread on this here: http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?p=74728#p74728 The solution I'm using is in the last 6-8 posts. Hope this helps. -Xathros

FWIW, I have 2 8 Button I2 KPL's that are working perfectly with 3.3.7 with regard to backlight changes. I had one event in 3.3.6 where the load on one of them turned on to 6% when the LED's were supposed to dim but that only happened once and it's been perfect since 3.3.7. My KPL's are FW V.36 and V.40. It was the v.40 that turned the load on instead of a backlight change once. I have 2 Fanlincs. One of those had the LED's turn back on with 3.3.6 and I could not turn them back off until 3.3.7. Once I installed 3.3.7 and did a Query Insteon Engine on that Fanlinc, I was able to turn the LEDs back off. Both Fanlincs are v.41 but only one had this problem and again, both are now fine with 3.3.7 -Xathros

While what you have there SHOULD cause the scene to come on at least once, it may never trigger again depending on the configuration of the motion sensor. Try chaing the IF from "Status is On" to "Control is switched On" and see what you get. -Xathros

Upgraded from 3.3.6 without issue. -Xathros

I have bought about 15 EcoSmart GP19 8Watt (40W Equiv) and found them to work quite well with Insteon dimmers and relays alike. These are selling for 9.99 ea at HomeDepot in my area. Only place they didn't work was on the 2 wire dimmers as they are not a large enough load. I only have about 6 months use on the oldest one so can't say how long they will last. -Xathros

I believe that KPLs with a firmware of V.40 and above, you can set a 0% on level for secondary buttons and activate those with a Scene On. Below V.40, you would need a separate scene containing the button(s) to turn off and issue a Scene Off command to that scene. In any event, I think it will require a program or two to monitor the KPL button presses and call the appropriate scenes. -Xathros