Xathros

OK. I don't have one of the 2487S KPL's to test with here but I would expect it to work the same as the lower amperage KPL's that I do have. Try right clicking on it's primary node in the network tree and select Query Insteon Engine. After that, return to your program and see if the backlight options are there. -Xathros

Hi jmed999- Power restored is simple. Just write a program to send a notification and make that run at startup. Power out is slightly more complex. Assuming that your insternet (Modem, router, switches) and ISY, PLM are UPS powered (some issues with this), you can write a program as follows: Program: CheckPower If Status [i]Some Insteon Device[/i] is Responding Then wait 2 minutes Run CheckPower (If path) Else Notify - Your Cell - Power Lost As for the internet, I built a test that works for me and some others that depends on a DNS lookup to prove internet connectivity and set a variable. This works for some but depends on the ability to get a true response from an external DNS server without your Router or modem answering from cache. Requires UDI Network resources module. Here is the thread on that: http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=9201&hilit=check+internet -Xathros

Looks to me like you are adjusting House Floods - Kitchen not Stairway KPL. I suspect House Floods - Kitchen are not on a KPL. -Xathros

MstrD- Thanks for the writeup on the Nest. I've been watching those and am very interested in the pogo scripts to translate for the Nest. I'll be watching this for sure. My ISY has become unresponsive on 2 occasions now. I don't think it crashed but rather got too busy with IP network stuff (DirecTV Flooding?) to do anything and required a reboot to recover. I do think a backup plan is always a good idea with critical systems like heat. My backup is an old bimetal mechanical thermostat installed in the basement (most likely place to freeze in my place) set at 50F. This works in parallel with my ISY/Venstar. If the temp in the basement ever gets that low it is because the Venstar/ISY failed to call for heat and the old mechanical thermostat will pick up the slack. I have a second one of these old stats in my breezeway near my pellet stove in SERIES with an IOlinc that I use to simulate a thermostat based on data from the Venstar in the next room. This mechanical stat is set to 80F and will shutdown the pellet stove should the ISY/Venstar/IOLinc fail to. -Xathros

Upgraded from 3.3.7 without any problems. Everything seems ok so far. I'll test the back lights when I get home tonight. -Xathros

The following format works for me: https://myusername:mypass@mydomain.no-i ... 67/cmd/DON -Xathros

I do believe that the time condition of "From Sunset to Sunrise (Same Day)" may be a problem as well. I think you want "From Sunset to Sunrise (Next Day)" -Xathros

I have thought about putting my ISY on a UPS for a while now and keep deciding against it as I have a feeling the ISY will be very unhappy when it can't communicate with anything on my insteon network and be fairly useless in that condition. I do have the ISY notify me at startup and upon internet uplink restored I I do know (after the fact) the the power and/or internet have gone down. -Xathros

Yes. the phones and iPods all disconnect regularly but the reconnect to check for mail every 5-15 minutes thus my 30 minute countdown till vacant. -Xathros

I am using a combination of motion sensors, switch/dimmer activations and WiFi connections from phones/ipods all to feed my occupancy routines. Basically, I have a state variable called Occupied that gets set to 1 anytime it is 0 and an event described above occurs. This starts a 30 minute countdown that gets restarted with any of the above events. If the timer runs out the state variable gets set to 0 (Vacant). I use the Occupied/Vacant status to adjust thermostat, enable/disable my pellet stove, adjust auto timers on various lights and enable/disable image capturing on my IP cameras (Capture on motion enabled for 2 minutes on transition from vacant to occupied when not in AWAY mode) The detection of Phones/iPods is done using my dd-wrt router and polling the ARP table for specific MAC addresses. There is a good thread on this here: http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?p=74728#p74728 The solution I'm using is in the last 6-8 posts. Hope this helps. -Xathros

FWIW, I have 2 8 Button I2 KPL's that are working perfectly with 3.3.7 with regard to backlight changes. I had one event in 3.3.6 where the load on one of them turned on to 6% when the LED's were supposed to dim but that only happened once and it's been perfect since 3.3.7. My KPL's are FW V.36 and V.40. It was the v.40 that turned the load on instead of a backlight change once. I have 2 Fanlincs. One of those had the LED's turn back on with 3.3.6 and I could not turn them back off until 3.3.7. Once I installed 3.3.7 and did a Query Insteon Engine on that Fanlinc, I was able to turn the LEDs back off. Both Fanlincs are v.41 but only one had this problem and again, both are now fine with 3.3.7 -Xathros

While what you have there SHOULD cause the scene to come on at least once, it may never trigger again depending on the configuration of the motion sensor. Try chaing the IF from "Status is On" to "Control is switched On" and see what you get. -Xathros

Upgraded from 3.3.6 without issue. -Xathros

I have bought about 15 EcoSmart GP19 8Watt (40W Equiv) and found them to work quite well with Insteon dimmers and relays alike. These are selling for 9.99 ea at HomeDepot in my area. Only place they didn't work was on the 2 wire dimmers as they are not a large enough load. I only have about 6 months use on the oldest one so can't say how long they will last. -Xathros

I believe that KPLs with a firmware of V.40 and above, you can set a 0% on level for secondary buttons and activate those with a Scene On. Below V.40, you would need a separate scene containing the button(s) to turn off and issue a Scene Off command to that scene. In any event, I think it will require a program or two to monitor the KPL button presses and call the appropriate scenes. -Xathros

Mark- Always happy to help. -Xathros

oberkc- I don't believe you can directly turn off a secondary KPL button. Instead, include the D button in the Full Bright scene with a 0% on level. -Xathros

It still sounds to me like you are suffering from marginal Insteon communications in this setup causing delays. -Xathros

I don't think the timing will be effected very much. ASSUMING good Insteon communications, we are looking at maybe a 1-2 second delay between On command and test to verify that feeder did turn on. Program: DogFeederSchedule IF Time is 9:00 am OR Time is 6:00 pm <------Added to show multiple feeding time usage THEN Run Program DogFeederOn THEN Path Program: DogFeederOn (Disabled) IF Status DogFeeder is Off THEN Set DogFeeder On Set DogFeeder Query Run Program DogFeederOn IF Path ELSE Wait 19 Seconds Run Program CheckDogFeeder THEN Path I dropped the delay from 20 to 19 seconds to account for the test time - Adjust as necessary. This does not notify on failures but we could add a counter variable and notify program as we did with the Off programs. -Xathros

Hi Tim- While I don't think its absolutely necessary since we force a test on startup, for cleanliness sake, you have a good point. Mark- Edit the Check programs as follows: Program: CheckDogFeeder If Status DogFeeder is On Then Set DogFeeder Off s.DogFeederOffTest = +1 s.DogFeederOffTest InitTo s.DogFeederOffTest <---Add Wait 5 seconds Run Program DogFeederFailNotify Run Program Check Dog Feeder If Path Else s.DogFeederOffTest = 0 <---Add s.DogFeederOffTest InitTo 0 <---Add This way if the power does fail during a feeder off attempt, the system will resume where it left off in the attempt/notify cycle. -Xathros

Sorry, Find the program in the list on the summary tab, right click the program name and select Enable run at Startup. Dunno why this option is so buried. -Xathros

sbex55- The Harmony remote is talking to the ISY via IR not RF so the IR eye in the ISY needs to be able to see the remote's IR LED(s). Access points and Dual band devices are Powerline/RF units only - not IR. While your Harmony remote may also be RF capable, I highly suspect it doesn't speak Insteon or even operate in the same RF band as Insteon. The remotelink does speak Insteon on the Insteon RF band. Many electronics stores sell IR repeaters which you could use to pipe the IR down to the ISY via wire or RF. -Xathros

Thanks for that little tidbit. That is excellent news and just changed my mind on ordering a second CAI board this week. That is worth waiting for. -Xathros

Mark- To recover after a power failure, create a program as follows to run each of the CheckFeeder programs and put a check in the Run At Startup box for this program: IF THEN Run Program CheckDogFeeder IF Path Run Program CheckHorseFeeder IF Path Run Program Check LlamaFeeder IF Path ELSE Also, Not sure about the outletlincs but most of the appliancelinc modules I have used will default to OFF after a power failure. I highly suspect the outletlincs are the same way but can't say without having tested any. I suspect your fail to turn off problem is more a comm failure due to noise or distance than power loss. Might need to look at filtering noisy equipment or adding some access points to extend/repeat the messages. -Xathros

Kentinada- What version of MAC OS are you running? Maybe clicking A or B below... Xathros