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At the end of the day purchasing a 994 Series Controller is the only solution moving forward. As it supports all current and future generation of Insteon devices that may be released in the future. Staying with the 99 Series Controller will limit you to what device(s) you can add, support, and ultimately control with all feature sets.

OK, I want to be sure this is going to operate as I intend it to. So please bare with me on this issue. I would like the notification to send me an alert indicating the fridge is running past the defined threshold say 35 minutes. Afterwards once the fridge has actually stopped the total run time will be sent out indicating the total amount of run time. Will the above program do this or will it simply nag me at five minute intervals telling me it's another five minutes in running? Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

If you could provide an example to follow that would be great. For testing purposes I set the existing program to -=1 and it did in fact send me an alert indicating the difference of 33 minutes. What ever happen to the days were you simply entered a value for a defined time and getting an output of the excess?? LOL

Well, here's what I have seen and observed. If its past the 34 minutes it does not send me the difference at all. If its at the 34 minute mark I agree the total should be zero which is what I do see and have monitored. Today the fridge ran for more than 40+ minutes and yet all I got was the first message at the 34 minute mark, no follow up?

Understood, and have to agree protecting the stupid seems like a full time job these days for lawmakers and lawyers. Now, that is why I suggested in the Insteon Wish List thread that you could have your cake and eat it too! Have the feature available but allow the stupid to disable it when not required! Let me be even more clear, by default this feature is disabled and must be turned on by the end user.

To add from what Xathros has indicated to protect the home against water damage. I have been using the following water sensing and motor valve assembly to protect my home with great results. The company is called Onsite Pro and makes the Floodstop in various forms to protect the washer, hot water tank, main water line, toilet, dishwasher, etc This is demo video I made testing the unit prior to deployment: This is one of the units fully deployed and working to protect the Clothes Washer: All of the units are coupled to various other Insteon devices to help broadcast the water leak condition and also turn off the electrical power to various devices.

Xathros, Is this program I have created following your steps correct? If $s.GEM_FridgeRuntimeCycleMins >= 34 And $s.GEM_FridgeNotifySuspend is 0 Then $i.GEM_Fridge_Cycle_Extra = $s.GEM_FridgeRuntimeCycleMins $i.GEM_Fridge_Cycle_Extra -= 34 Send Notification to 'GMX' content 'GEM - Fridge Cycle Exceeded' $s.GEM_FridgeNotifySuspend = 1 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') The system does not seem to provide me the difference in run time that exceeds the 34 minutes max I set out.

What would be the cleanest approach to do this as a test. Keeping in mind I really wanted to clean up all of these programs to be small, compact, and have very little processing time on the ISY. Throw out a sample and I will give it a try and reply back!

I get the safety aspect but people have to realize the following. People have to take ownership of their own lives, companies also have to accept people have things On / Off for a reason. If someone was too stupid to connect a On / Off module to say (making this up) to a fire place? And it came back on, and burned the house down, its their fault. Now, if the same person had it connected to a light, TV, stereo, etc and it was on, well blasted leave it back on if the power cycles during that time. Don't second guess the user, its their problem if the device burns their house down because they left it attached to something that should not be controlled by an automated switch!

I have confirmed the variable did change to 1. But, will monitor it moving forward to see if that is the case in the next two days.

Hello Xathros, I believe you are tracking what my thoughts and problems are. Let me first explain why and how this program is supposed to work and what really does happen in my environment. I first had to determine with a (small margin what the wattage actually was) based on fluctuations of line voltage what the defrost power was. After several weeks of simply watching defrost cycles come on / off. I was able to determine with (voltage margin) that the IF STATUS should be set no lower than 460 watts. Once the fridge settles down in defrost mode its approx 480+ watts and runs for about 19 minutes. I initially set the wait time for 30 seconds but it did not seem to operate as expected? The reason for using the Integer variable as you're aware is that I did not want to rely solely on the power value and receive endless e-mails. All I needed was confirmation that it went into defrost mode, thats it. As time went on your great little program which is in production now has supplemented my program. But, as a reference point I wanted to monitor the two and compare the accuracy of them both as I am still seeing odd behaviour and think some of it is due to power variations and not knowing how the ISY would reevaluate the IF STATUS if the power was changing with in that window of time.

I thought it would be beneficial to many of us to know when a Run At Startup should be used and applied. I think knowing when not to use it is even more beneficial to the masses. What are the caveats of using this feature in ISY-994 Series Controller? Are there downsides in deploying too many and what defines too many? This would also be a good thread for those to supply their programs along with details of how they use, deploy, and the idea of the Run At Startup program. Much Thanks!

Hello Rich, To be clear you're not swapping between the two PLM's as you go along are you? If you're you can't do that and must focus with just one and either do a restore PLM.

I am in the middle of cleaning up some programs in the ISY in the hopes of streamlining how it functions and operates. I have been using one basic program for awhile which indicates when the fridge is in defrost mode. Somewhere down the line I made a change in the THEN section which on the surface didn't seem like a big deal. In the program listed below there is a 5 second wait period. With the 5 second wait exactly as you see here the program works and fires off an e-mail alert. With the 5 second wait placed at the top of the THEN, no e-mail is sent? Am I missing something obvious? If Status '01 Main Left / 23 Refridgerator' > 460 Watts (Current Power) And $i.Refridgerator_Defrost_Status is not 1 Then Send Notification to 'GMX' content 'GEM - Fridge Defrost Cycle' Wait 5 seconds $i.Refridgerator_Defrost_Status = 1 $i.Refridgerator_Defrost_Status Init To 1 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') If Status '01 Main Left / 23 Refridgerator' <= 1 Watts (Current Power) And $i.Refridgerator_Defrost_Status is not 0 Then $i.Refridgerator_Defrost_Status = 0 $i.Refridgerator_Defrost_Status Init To 0 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

I know pretty much that X10 is going away but that is something Insteon should just keep. It doesn't cost them a lot if any to just included it in the firmware. It gives them that selling point to those who still have some legacy X10 devices that its still backwards compatible and supported. I am probably the only guy I know who is doing the whole HA that never even tried X10 in my area! I don't know if its the ugly looks, or the 1970 dial wheels that just put me off about the whole X10. Back on point: OP just use a program to return the device to a ON condition. It may not make much of a difference to Smarthome but I will add this feature request in their new forum located here:http://forum.insteon.com/forum/main-category/new-insteon-device-wish-list/18003-resume-power-state-on-off-dim-for-plug-in-devices Anyone who reads this thread and sees value in this feature please do add your voice and select the *Like* as it was really a great feature.

You would simply program the two keys to either send a ON / OFF command only to do what you wanted. There are many who simply use one button to toggle between the two states which also reflects the true GDO state. This saves on KPL buttons to be used on other Insteon related scenes. Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

I too have a LCD clock, temperature, and motion sensor wall mount controller. The parallel wiring is done at the motor GDO side not on the wall mount controller. Apologies if that was not made clear the first go round. Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

As I understand it none of the new modules will resume its previous state when AC power is lost. This is why I prize many of the older appliance link on/off units that did so. There was a period where some of the same production date units had the same behaviour as yours that shipped to end users. Your only solution is to set up a program on the ISY to turn the unit back on, at start up. Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

I would like to add if it was missed in this thread. If you directly wire the I/O link to the same wire pairs in (parallel) from the wall mounted GDO. This has worked for me and many others. The advantage of doing it this way avoids you from soldering, modifying, an existing remote. You can't lose and its a quick test to the validity of the solution. BTW: I have a Liftmaster 3800 which is exactly the same minus the Internet module and the newer controller on the wall.

Mike, I have seen this same behaviour also on my ISY-994 Series Controller. Will be very interested in the root cause and the solution to this problem. The only thing I have done simply out of course is to clear the java cache, web browser of all cookies, history, temp files, etc. Closing out the browser and reentering the ISY Web UI. You may consider looking into whether there are any anti-virus, firewall / rules that may be impacting your system along with ensuring any popup blockers are disabled to see.

I don't think that aspect has ever been so clearly explained before. Thank You

I will have to post up the other error messages when I can access the other computer which has the images.

Invalid / Incorrect program key other screen shots are appended in the 4.2.8 thread.

I can only tell you what I see and have observed as being true. When the ISY was very locked up the Dash Box was not accessible and none of the data streaming from the GEM was coming into the Dash Box. At the same time the ISY obviously had nothing to show (updated energy readings). The only way to restore data flow and be able to access the Dash Box was to hard reboot the ISY 994 Series Controller. This problem has happened more than ten times now.

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