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I believe he should be using this model: http://www.smarthome.com/2443-222/INSTEON-Micro-On-Off-Module/p.aspx As the other one is indicated as for shutters?

The 2444-222 is a dimmer: http://www.smarthome.com/2442-222/INSTEON-Micro-Dimmer-Module/p.aspx

You purchased the dimmer instead of the relay on /off. Please return it and buy the correct one. Also please do not use it again as the dimmer will not provide full voltage / power to the device and can cause damage to the unit. This is the correct Insteon device: http://www.smarthome.com/2443-222/INSTEON-Micro-On-Off-Module/p.aspx

Yes I can sense when any of the devices turn on and what power value is present. The problem I am seeing is that when the voltage in the local area fluctuates this affects my programs from initiating. I have used all forms of <, >=, >=, IS, IS NOT. I believe the solution is to have a power range for the initial sense / start. Then use the known standby power signature to indicate the end of the cycle. But craft it in a way that compensates for the swing in voltage from the POCO. This also brings me to another on going problem with the existing power values. In the next 5.0 firmware release there must be a box to enter a value. Instead of picking predefined values that go linear then all of the sudden jump into blocks of power options. Ie 500, 600 watts etc. Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

Back ground: I am using the Green Eye Monitor (GEM) which monitors and tracks the energy in my home which is integrated with my ISY-994iZ Pro. I would like to fine tune my programs to be more specific in detecting the completion of the following appliances. ie. Dish Washer, Clothes Washer, Dryer. I am able to detect final power cycles of all three devices and their standby power. For this example we have the clothes washer at its peak consumes 363 watts & in standby consumes 3 watts. What is the ideal program to using the above values to alert me the wash is done?

I wanted to follow up and confirm the program works perfectly as intended. Reviewing security videos confirms the ISY is helping me solve this really annoying problem. Thank you all once again!

The web switch is powered by one AC outlet but you have full control of turning on / off / cycle any of the eight receptacles independently. There is also a iPhone app which allows you to perform the same actions when not in front of a computer system.

Hello Jerry, The ISY does not display a separate node for the sense wire.

Yes, same device as yours but geared toward a point of use area opposed to a centralized location like the DIN module.

I would simply like the program to be halted. Keeping in mind regardless of what I do the remote GDO light will come on until it is turned off by itself.. Which seems to be quite random now, it appears to work by itself 50% of the time. Its the other 50% of the time that I am trying to take care of. I am unsure what kind of un efficient power supply is in that unit but its a huge power hog!

Hello NeilP, We have been using these web enabled switches for more than 15 years: http://www.digital-loggers.com/lpc.html Some personal details about the switch can be found in this on going install thread here: http://www.brultech.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=929&start=40

NeilP, As a safeguard I have a remote web switch that pings, schedules, and stages the start up of the ISY and any other network device. This allows me the ability to remote boot any network device or let the system do so automatically. This might be something you could think about for your environment.

Hello All, I have cycled the GDO for 10 plus cycles and all seems fine. I will monitor this program and the GDO for the next few weeks and play back the security recordings as time allows. Much thanks to you all for the insight and confirmation.

Let me explain my scenario and if anyone sees a problem. I am more than happy to change if so it works correctly for the intended purpose. The GDO light has a built in timer which seems to be broken. My program waits for the door to close and leaves the light on for 3 minutes which seems to be a good balance of it being interrupted by the internal GDO timer. Once the three minutes elapses the APL turns off and waits 5 seconds and than restores power to the remote GDO light. All of this hinges on the GDO door sensor being in the closed position. Which must be closed for the program to execute. Based on the above, does there still seem to be a problem? Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

This UDI PLM will be a world supported unit for our brothers across the pond? ie. 50 Hz / 240 etc

Hello Xathros, As always you're correct! I just had the chance to test the program just moment ago. I intended to test it last night but it was very late and the mosquitoes were simply insane! The program appears to be working just fine right now using the *Status* clause. I increased the time for the Appliance Linc to wait 5 seconds for a buffer.

I have a Liftmaster 3800 GDO which has a remote light. The remote light has started to stay on well past the internal timer limit. The only way to turn off the light is to turn off the breaker which resets the light. I have since installed an old Appliance Linc to turn the remote light on / off so energy is not wasted. The program below is what I crafted but wanted to confirm that it would operate as expected. I would like the remote light to stay on for whatever XX minutes ( Below I selected 3 minutes just for an example for the program ). The program will then wait 3 minutes and kill the power to the remote light. 2 seconds later the program will turn the Appliance Linc back on, and stay on. My question is should the (IF) statement use the Status or Control operator? I ask because I want to ensure the program does not run non stop, cycling forever. I only want it to run when the GDO opens, closes, then the program does its portion once the GDO is down and closed. If Status 'IO Linc Garage Door-Sensor' is Off Then Wait 3 minutes Set 'Garage Ceiling Light' Off Wait 2 seconds Set 'Garage Ceiling Light' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Teken . . .

1. The GEM can absolutely send directly to SEG with out any other device. 2. UDI will not be coming out with a dual Z wave / Zigbee device as it was stated it was too expensive to produce. 3. I understand that you can see limited information via Ethernet but you still require the energy module plug in from UDI. Michel can give you more clarity and insight on that aspect. Please let me know if there are any further questions I can answer. Teken . . .

Hello Michael, To be able to see and render the energy readings from the GEM you will need to send the data to one of three solutions. 1. On premise data server using any of the free software suites indicated in the Brultech forum. 2. Send the data to SEG (Smart Energy Groups) which is a free energy hosting site. 3. Purchase the Dash Box (DB) which is a mini Linux server which generates all the pretty graphs you see in this post. The DB will capture all of the energy, temperature, pulse, voltage, etc and render it for the end user for later historic review. The DB will also relay the same information to SEG which provides you even more charts, graphs, tools, to see the same energy, temperature, pulse, voltage readings with a different perspective. I used option three because it provided me a in house solution while also giving me a virtual cloud storage of the same data as a back up! If you intend to interact with your home as I do then you must have the Zigbee enabled ISY. If your only goal is to see the data then any of the above is more than fine. Once the ISY is able to communicate to two different ISY controllers via 2 way network module. I will be purchasing the Z-wave option to allow me more flexibility and fail over in case Insteon ever goes under. After you wade through the massive install thread you will see the information regarding the Dash Box! Please let me know if you have more questions and I would be happy to assist. Teken . . .

I would be very interested in seeing what sort of information your Z Wave plug ins can provide. Any graphs and charts you can provide would be much appreciated. Right now I can monitor whole branch circuits along with individual loads and track their long term energy use. With the ongoing development of the energy module from UDI it will be even more powerful and capable in the not too distant future. Below are some quick shots of the single device monitoring plug I use. I currently have three of the five plugs monitoring some test equipment getting ready to be deployed in the next few months. The plan is to know the start up power / current, idle, and peak energy when under high loads. This will help me to craft the proper ISY programs to be alerted and then have the Insteon network react to those needs. Below is an example of one of the test circuits using the special modified plug and CT. This plug is monitoring the sump pump in my home. I don't get a lot of rain so in the almost five years I lived in this home I have not heard the sump pump go off more than a hand full of times. This has made me a bit anxious and scared as our area is known for massive floods once in awhile. Below my fears were alleviated as you can see the sump pump came on 15 times. That week was never ending rain storms and the ISY / Dash Box, Green Eye Monitor picked it up and recorded the values. This is a zoomed in look at one particular day. Sump Pump Channel 19 (Yellow) is monitoring the actual branch circuit. While the Utility Room 30 (Purple) is the special plug / CT installed directly to the pump outlet itself. As indicated once you get into monitoring the whole house. You eventually want to know more about vampire draws, and what loads are impacting your over all electrical costs. Below is my fridge and having the ability to know how many times the fridge has kicked in, for how long, and how many defrost cycles have occurred. Has given me the knowledge to make the appropriate changes to the temperature settings to obtain the most efficiencies while balancing costs. As you can see when my fridge goes into defrost mode it consumes 472.20 watts. There were times where the kids left the door open causing the fridge to stay in a defrost mode longer. There were even times where the rear vents were blocked which caused the fridge to keep running for hours! This is the same graph but I have changed the DB to show me the current / amps. Knowing this information for other devices allows me to know the inrush current, etc. And build my back up systems to accommodate such loads for the generator & solar back up. For those wanting to know the PF (Power Factor) of a device the DB / GEM can provide this information as well as Volt Amps. A quick snap shot for the current year for various loads. This chart displays the current watts, KWH consume, and the total dollars. Some like the pretty graphs / charts like my GF! Not sure why she likes the pie charts? Right now I care more about how freaking hot its getting outside and I don't even have AC! This is the same day but rendered in a bar graph. Just a snap shot view of the entire 1 wire temperature probes in and around my home. Another snap shot view of various loads in the home. One of my favorite past times is monitoring the voltage from the POCO. My GF believes I have some sort of voltage disorder because I like to monitor the POCO!

Awesome! Now what form factor does it resemble now ? Given you stated it wasn't a wall wart? Teken Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

I can tell you from first hand experience once you start to monitor the whole house. You will eventually want to know and monitor all the individual circuits in your home. There are plenty of items on the open market now that provide some insight as to what energy is being consumed. Keep in mind a lot of them have huge variance in terms of power readings supplied. Many of the products do not actually give you the *True Power* which is what the POCO charges you. I would encourage you to save up and spend your money once for a Brultech ECM-1240, or Green Eye Monitor (GEM). This is an on going development thread I have created here to track my efforts: http://www.brultech.com/community/viewt ... ?f=2&t=929 Teken . . .

Maybe this was a valid fear 10 years ago when the whole HA scene was being ushered in. Now with the Z Wave, Zigbee, UPB camp firmly entrenched with the major players. At this point Insteon should be giving it away to try to get some decent (major vendors) to produce and make some 3rd party Insteon products! That ship sailed away 7 years ago! Teken Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

I am not really surprised by the fact smarthome has not allowed the firmware to be field upgradable. It's consistent with their short vision of the future and third party support. Teken Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions