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Hello Xathros, As always you're correct! I just had the chance to test the program just moment ago. I intended to test it last night but it was very late and the mosquitoes were simply insane! The program appears to be working just fine right now using the *Status* clause. I increased the time for the Appliance Linc to wait 5 seconds for a buffer.

I have a Liftmaster 3800 GDO which has a remote light. The remote light has started to stay on well past the internal timer limit. The only way to turn off the light is to turn off the breaker which resets the light. I have since installed an old Appliance Linc to turn the remote light on / off so energy is not wasted. The program below is what I crafted but wanted to confirm that it would operate as expected. I would like the remote light to stay on for whatever XX minutes ( Below I selected 3 minutes just for an example for the program ). The program will then wait 3 minutes and kill the power to the remote light. 2 seconds later the program will turn the Appliance Linc back on, and stay on. My question is should the (IF) statement use the Status or Control operator? I ask because I want to ensure the program does not run non stop, cycling forever. I only want it to run when the GDO opens, closes, then the program does its portion once the GDO is down and closed. If Status 'IO Linc Garage Door-Sensor' is Off Then Wait 3 minutes Set 'Garage Ceiling Light' Off Wait 2 seconds Set 'Garage Ceiling Light' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Teken . . .

1. The GEM can absolutely send directly to SEG with out any other device. 2. UDI will not be coming out with a dual Z wave / Zigbee device as it was stated it was too expensive to produce. 3. I understand that you can see limited information via Ethernet but you still require the energy module plug in from UDI. Michel can give you more clarity and insight on that aspect. Please let me know if there are any further questions I can answer. Teken . . .

Hello Michael, To be able to see and render the energy readings from the GEM you will need to send the data to one of three solutions. 1. On premise data server using any of the free software suites indicated in the Brultech forum. 2. Send the data to SEG (Smart Energy Groups) which is a free energy hosting site. 3. Purchase the Dash Box (DB) which is a mini Linux server which generates all the pretty graphs you see in this post. The DB will capture all of the energy, temperature, pulse, voltage, etc and render it for the end user for later historic review. The DB will also relay the same information to SEG which provides you even more charts, graphs, tools, to see the same energy, temperature, pulse, voltage readings with a different perspective. I used option three because it provided me a in house solution while also giving me a virtual cloud storage of the same data as a back up! If you intend to interact with your home as I do then you must have the Zigbee enabled ISY. If your only goal is to see the data then any of the above is more than fine. Once the ISY is able to communicate to two different ISY controllers via 2 way network module. I will be purchasing the Z-wave option to allow me more flexibility and fail over in case Insteon ever goes under. After you wade through the massive install thread you will see the information regarding the Dash Box! Please let me know if you have more questions and I would be happy to assist. Teken . . .

I would be very interested in seeing what sort of information your Z Wave plug ins can provide. Any graphs and charts you can provide would be much appreciated. Right now I can monitor whole branch circuits along with individual loads and track their long term energy use. With the ongoing development of the energy module from UDI it will be even more powerful and capable in the not too distant future. Below are some quick shots of the single device monitoring plug I use. I currently have three of the five plugs monitoring some test equipment getting ready to be deployed in the next few months. The plan is to know the start up power / current, idle, and peak energy when under high loads. This will help me to craft the proper ISY programs to be alerted and then have the Insteon network react to those needs. Below is an example of one of the test circuits using the special modified plug and CT. This plug is monitoring the sump pump in my home. I don't get a lot of rain so in the almost five years I lived in this home I have not heard the sump pump go off more than a hand full of times. This has made me a bit anxious and scared as our area is known for massive floods once in awhile. Below my fears were alleviated as you can see the sump pump came on 15 times. That week was never ending rain storms and the ISY / Dash Box, Green Eye Monitor picked it up and recorded the values. This is a zoomed in look at one particular day. Sump Pump Channel 19 (Yellow) is monitoring the actual branch circuit. While the Utility Room 30 (Purple) is the special plug / CT installed directly to the pump outlet itself. As indicated once you get into monitoring the whole house. You eventually want to know more about vampire draws, and what loads are impacting your over all electrical costs. Below is my fridge and having the ability to know how many times the fridge has kicked in, for how long, and how many defrost cycles have occurred. Has given me the knowledge to make the appropriate changes to the temperature settings to obtain the most efficiencies while balancing costs. As you can see when my fridge goes into defrost mode it consumes 472.20 watts. There were times where the kids left the door open causing the fridge to stay in a defrost mode longer. There were even times where the rear vents were blocked which caused the fridge to keep running for hours! This is the same graph but I have changed the DB to show me the current / amps. Knowing this information for other devices allows me to know the inrush current, etc. And build my back up systems to accommodate such loads for the generator & solar back up. For those wanting to know the PF (Power Factor) of a device the DB / GEM can provide this information as well as Volt Amps. A quick snap shot for the current year for various loads. This chart displays the current watts, KWH consume, and the total dollars. Some like the pretty graphs / charts like my GF! Not sure why she likes the pie charts? Right now I care more about how freaking hot its getting outside and I don't even have AC! This is the same day but rendered in a bar graph. Just a snap shot view of the entire 1 wire temperature probes in and around my home. Another snap shot view of various loads in the home. One of my favorite past times is monitoring the voltage from the POCO. My GF believes I have some sort of voltage disorder because I like to monitor the POCO!

Awesome! Now what form factor does it resemble now ? Given you stated it wasn't a wall wart? Teken Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

I can tell you from first hand experience once you start to monitor the whole house. You will eventually want to know and monitor all the individual circuits in your home. There are plenty of items on the open market now that provide some insight as to what energy is being consumed. Keep in mind a lot of them have huge variance in terms of power readings supplied. Many of the products do not actually give you the *True Power* which is what the POCO charges you. I would encourage you to save up and spend your money once for a Brultech ECM-1240, or Green Eye Monitor (GEM). This is an on going development thread I have created here to track my efforts: http://www.brultech.com/community/viewt ... ?f=2&t=929 Teken . . .

Maybe this was a valid fear 10 years ago when the whole HA scene was being ushered in. Now with the Z Wave, Zigbee, UPB camp firmly entrenched with the major players. At this point Insteon should be giving it away to try to get some decent (major vendors) to produce and make some 3rd party Insteon products! That ship sailed away 7 years ago! Teken Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

I am not really surprised by the fact smarthome has not allowed the firmware to be field upgradable. It's consistent with their short vision of the future and third party support. Teken Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

Michel, Can you provide more insight to 3 / 4? 3. I can see as a benefit to those who like to power the ISY. But, a con for those who like to have the ISY on a UPS. 4. I am assuming the case will look like the new on / off plugin switch? Teken . . .

Since this is only a test I would reset the I/O Linc and try again. In case its just stuck report back. Teken . . .

Just taking a random stab at this. But is the device you're using to control the I/O Linc for example KPL set to issue a ON, vs Toggle? Teken . . .

If that meets your needs go ahead! Teken Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

Changed it to the airport and it appears to be working much better. I have to take pause with some of the other stations listed as either HAM defaults to some random value for some fields. Or, five of these sites have exactly the same errors being displayed. ie. Cloud condition is dead wrong, light, humidity, etc Teken . . .

Is this something we should expect to occur from time to time? Where stations where we subscribe just disappear? I will need to do a locate me when I get back home as I am on our Corporate network and it shows me as being in Washington! Teken . . .

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The service must be down or something weird is going on. All of my temperatures are showing up as 0 degree's? Teken . . .

Hello Richardv24, I was simply addressing your question about Zigbee. You can have either Zigbee / Insteon, or Z-Wave / Insteon. Zigbee via the ISY only supports energy management and some TSTATS. It does not support Zigbee HA (Home Automation) products due to the different protocols used by various manufactures. Teken . . .

The ISY only supports energy management and TSTATs with Zjgbee along with Insteon. You're best served going with Z-Wave / Insteon at this point in time. Teken Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

Hello John, It has been removed do to changes in its API and changes to their TOS (terms of service). UDI is currently working on an alternative solution at this time. Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

I would suggest you purchase a remote power switch. This device would allow you to remotely turn the power on, off, or cycle power. Many of them have the ability to ping an attached network device. Upon failed ping response (which the user defines) the remote power switch would cycle the power. The only problem I have seen with these devices is that some devices will indeed ping back even when the hardware is in sort locked up state. Just another alternative solution for those looking into this area. Teken . . .

I would have to assume since you're already working on their Z-Wave devices its would be one and the same?? The only difference in my view is that you're asking them for the Zigbee API documentation and have to believe you would have signed a NDA to obtain their Z-Wave API docs, no?? Teken . . .

I believe some people have used the Synchro Linc, Micro On/Off with Sense, or if budget allows the incorporation of the GEM with the energy module plug in to the ISY. I use the ISY / GEM to detect the current state, running state, and idle state of the washer, dryer, dish washer, etc. At that point the ISY sends off a e-mail confirming the above is done its cycle etc. Teken . . .

Hello Michel, It would be appreciated it you could find sometime and review the API docs for the Zigbee enabled locks the OP has posted up and report back if its even possible. One would think some of these makers would try to follow a standard. History has proven when standards are not followed, adoption rates are near zero from the consumer point of view. Any help in this regard would be very helpful and would at least put to bed whether this is something those who have the ISY-994 iZ version can either look forward to, or just abandon. Teken . . .

Specifically are you saying the ISY requires content in both fields ? Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions