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Another consideration is if a person built the house around Insteon. I know a few people here actually did this and at the end of the day it was a huge mistake. IE. They literally have one or two switches in place of a bank of switches. The real wiring was hidden in a closet, attic, what ever. I believe if you truly know this is the last home then OK. But, if there is any doubt in your mind don't be stupid and have no real wiring in a place that can't be replaced with a normal switch in case of a failure or the part is no longer being made. I really do get the whole, it looks clean approach. But people have to use some common sense when doing this whole HA stuff. Also, when I see the whole clear button KPL buttons with the ghetto style custom writing / printing. At that point you deserve to lose some points on the resale value of the home, so cheap and ghetto!

OK, good to know I am not totally losing it! Now in your else clause is the last entry a mistake? I see no method to add in a third element of - i.AlertSentAt. Unless that is a separate line entry in the Else clause. A repost of the final program would be great.

Xathros, In the first program how did you bring up the = sign? All I see for options are is, is not, >, <, =<, => options.

Xanthros, I swear sometimes the people on this forum should get paid! I totally forgot there were options to the left side and was just fixated that there was only an ALERT option! Shakes head . . . I also realize I could simply type in your text but missed the first period (old eyes) now the temperature value is coming in via e-mail alerts. Now, what is the best method to receive a notification while not being bombarded by endless e-mails? So for example my threshold is going to be 22'C or in the system 220. If the Autelis Bridge sends out a temp which is at 22 or above I want only one message. But, if the system indicates the temperature is climbing XX degree's in XX minutes / hours, I want to again receive a notification but don't want endless e-mails. I have some past programs that I used but want to try something with more logic and brains at this point. Any insight to craft such a program would be most helpful kind Sir!

Hrmmm, where does one find that with in the ISY UI?

OMG! You Sir, are simply amazing in your trouble shooting and deductive reasoning! Now, how do I pump out the current temperature value that is being displayed in the State Variable to an email alert?

Hello Xanthros, You might be on to something here Sir! Below is a screen shot from the Autelis Bridge. As you can see the temperature value at this (moment in time) is 18.8 C'. I am unsure if the decimal value is being sent in to the ISY and the system is simply trying to make heads and tails of it. But, if you look at the first posting you clearly see the State Variable value that is pushed from the Autelis device is a whole number. It still doesn't explain how this same value of 2.11 is derived from or generated. Even my broken math knows at this moment in time 180 - 188 = 8

Its super basic nothing fancy.

I have a Autelis Bridge that can communicate with the ISY. It is currently sending 1 wire temperature sensor readings into a State Variable. I crafted a very simple and basic program to see how it would operate in practice. This is a test! I do realize that the state variable will send me alerts each time there is a change of state. I will change how this behaves later on but wanted to know what this value that is being pushed to me? The value is stated as 2.11? To test the workings of the system I lowered the value to 180, as the current state at the time was like 183, 184. Even my broken math knows the difference is still not 2.11? I later dropped the trip level to another two points (178) and the system sent in the same alert value of 2.11?? There must be something obvious I am missing here so any insight as to how this value is generated and derived would be greatly appreciated.

No, this device is not supported by the ISY-994. UDI has indicated this device does not act like any other Insteon device what ever that is supposed to mean. The device has lots of potential but Smarthome has not upgraded this device since launch or used the full capability / potential of the product. The device can display three iMeter Solo's and provides local temperature readings. The temperature readings can not be queried by the ISY-994 Series Controller as its a battery device and goes back to sleep. I had asked if the device could send updates to the ISY via RF as the Advert indicated if a change in temperature in a specified period time was met it would broadcast that local temperature. I was advised this could not be supported or be obtained. If all you want is a very basic energy display and local temperature readings its a nice little device. Beyond that its not worth your time in purchasing the unit as its not very flexible in terms of what you can actually do with it.

Absolutely, +1 Regardless of the type of electrical surge protection one decides to use. It does not supersede the need and confirmation of a solid (low resistance) ground in the building. As you indicated another path for a electrical surge is via cable, telephone, and SAT, entry points. One of the things I did to mitigate such a threat was to switch my telephone / cable to fiber. This completely negates any electrical surges coming over the telco / video line as it comes via fiber optical cable. Even though this measure is in place all of the A/V gear in my home which has coaxial lines still feed through a surge / spike protector. The equipment is there why not use it! As it was stated in my install thread even with all these safety measures in place. I have dedicated circuits turned off at the panel breaker, and others simply left unplugged. Ironic, isn't it?

Hello Neil, Using only one on a circuit is fine and will not impact the Insteon signal. Using more than one on the same branch circuit will absorb / suck any power line communications. I saw this first hand when I needed a temporary internet drop and used one of my Trendnet power line Ethernet adapters. The diagnostic led indicated the signal was very degraded and the actual connection was very slow. Also keep in mind these devices do not protect down stream circuits like a GFCI does. This is why I had to install so many of these surge alarm outlets instead of having one at the start of the branch circuit. I wanted to call that out if the documentation was unclear about that aspect. The install thread was created as a place holder for historic review and to share my experience about new technology and how best to integrate it all into one system. It was also intended to help foster the growth of each product mentioned while also helping out fellow enthusiasts such as yourself. It's a pretty long read and some portions are unrelated to one another. But, in the big picture of what I am trying to do which is to manage, control, and promote energy efficiency it all relates to one another. Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

As Neil indicated this is why several layers of surge protection must be used and deployed. The let through voltage / current for the whole house panel is much higher. Also, a whole house even a meter base surge ring does not protect your equipment from internally generated surge / spikes. Such as those from large motors like fridge, sump, compressors, HVAC. Using different types of *point of use* surge protectors with different technologies will provide the most electrical protection at the device level.

I have a Leviton Type 1 surge ring protector at the service entrance protecting the entire home from the POCO. The service panel is protected by a Sycom Secondary Type 2 120/240 surge protector. About 80% of all the outlets in the home are protected by Type 3 Leviton surge alarm outlets. There are many Point Of Use Type 3 Tripp Lite ISOTOL surge strips to provide more outlets and protection. Anything that requires back up power is routed to many APC UPS systems. Some critical systems in the home are wired behind SSR's, Transformers, and Opto Isolators. This is a on going Home Automation installation thread that provides more insight and the brands and models I have in use: http://www.brultech.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=929&start=40 Please let me know if you have any further questions.

I have been using an entire three layer whole house surge protection for my home for more than five years without issue. It is one of the best pieces of gear you can install into your home to provide some form of electrical protection.

As you're probably aware my solution was to deploy a web enabled power switch. That allows me to remotely turn on, off, cycle the power. It also allows me to ping any network device and react to that state. Others have coupled the above by crafting a ISY program as a watchdog timer etc. In my home, I also have a dedicated 1080P HD IP camera that alerts me if any of the network LED's are on. I use this as a failure over measure because you can actually have a device ping back but in real world its still hung up. The analytic software is geared toward force protection in high security applications. I have simply used a million dollar software package in a very dumb down fashion! Placing the ISY-994 Controller on a UPS in my mind is simply good practice and makes sense. For me its not about being able to control the home etc. More as ensuring my investment does not endure a shorter life due to dirty power or uncontrolled electrical events. Its a little hard to justify a UPS for one piece of gear but if you bundle it up to a decent sized unit and back up multiple devices it kind of softens the blow.

Hello Noel, If you have already reserved the MAC address with in the router for the ISY-994 Controller. That is all you need to do and will serve you well in the future should there be any ISP / Modem changes.

+2, and fully agree with this view and sentiment. In previous replies from UDI they indicated their primary goal was to invest their development time into the hardware / firmware. They indicated they wanted other 3rd party developers to grow and make the front end (GUI). Other forum ISY members have since released some pretty sharp UI / GUI interfaces. But at the end of the day the base ISY interface requires more polish and refinements which can be easily managed, programmed, and deployed for the end user. Some of the programming elements are not intuitive and require lots of pre-reading and trial and error. Its safe to say the ISY-994 Series Controller is not 100% geared to the novice in some aspects. But, the base system does operate out of the box well. Its when you want to initiate more powerful logic / control / programming. This is where many, such as myself, fall short in terms of using it in a point and shoot method. Sometimes the amount of invested time and trial and error is really mind numbing to say the least.

Also, you can reserve the MAC address to the ISY in the router. The benefit in doing so will allow any network changes in the modem / router to propagate to the ISY controller. Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

-170000 WEB_MODULE_NO_FREE_SPACE -5012 UPNP SUBSCRIBER NOREPLY TO EVENT 1 subscriber didn't reply to the event:couldn't write header The entire listing is provided here: http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:Errors_And_Error_Messages

Once you try out the HUB, you will notice some pretty cool features and how the UI is designed. Afterwards, when the novelty wares off it will be clear the ISY-994 Series Controller will be the decisive solution to link, control, and automate your home.

I have written the programs taking into account voltage swings and hope they operate as expected. This would be so much easier with a box to enter high / low values then to use the current method. Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions

Our company has thousands of these devices installed all over the world. Even with our billion dollar operations and proven track record in buying, using, their products. Their lack luster support, after sales warranty RMA process, is pretty much sh^t. Regardless, the latest version 6-7 are top notch products so hopefully you won't ever have to deal with them personally!

I have not looked into the user manual for this product at all. So, this might be a lot of assumption on my part. As I stated early the unit you have is intended to control devices such as window blinds / motors for a brief moment in time. I do not believe it was intended to be used for continuous use. Hence why I quoted the sales advert above. If this device is timing out I have to assume that is the way its designed. For HVAC related items I used and deployed the On/Off relay indicated above with great success.

Hello Michael, Yes, that has been the on going problem here as late. The voltage in my area has been rock steady for years (always 120 VAC). Now for whatever reason it has fluctuated from 120 - 126 VAC which in terms of (monitored) watts that is an increase of 2-10 plus watts from the base line I have programed for. Which causes all kinds of headaches in crafting a ISY program to perform certain actions and e-mail alerts. What is your experience in using the (IS) operator? I want to be clear on how its supposed to work so any insight would be helpful. As I expect if I use the (IS) operator for example: Dryer IS 5 watts, the system should only fire off if its at 5 watts. But for what ever reason it appears to me anything above 5 watts trips this operator? Isn't that the whole point of the equal and greater than operator? >= I believe its either my lack of understanding of how these operators work, or they simply do not function as intended, or there is a variability in the operator that is unexpected.