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I have been trying to download some of the zip files from the Network Resource chapter in the wiki, but thus far all the links I tried contained only empty zip folders. In particular, I am interested in the files to control a Denon AVR4308, but also in others, like the one for Integra. I wonder if the issue is on my end, as all I have tried seem to be empty. Any thoughts? Thanks!

Hello Michel; Thanks for your help. Yes, I was talking about the back lights. I was able to figure it out. I had a typo in one of my Scene definitions. I also 'bullet-proofed' the programs by adding a line to turn the scene (i.e. back light) ON => example: C wholehousefan-low-ON - [ID 0030][Parent 002F] If Control '8x kitchen / 8x C WHF low ON-OFF' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Misc / 8x KPL C Status' On Set Scene 'Misc / 8x KPL E Status' Off Set 'Whole House Fan - low' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Not sure if it is really needed, but it does not seem to hurt

Hi Michel; The fan is controlled by an EZFlora. This unit seems to be affected by the "cannot be controlled via Scenes' issue. Therefore I am using programs as work arounds.

a follow up... Situation: I have 2 buttons on the KPL to control the same device (Whole House Fan - low). I want to have their LED only lit, if their state is on. Button C is to toggle the device (fan) between ON and OFF. Button E is to trigger a program to run the fan for a set time. I have created 3 programs: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- C wholehousefan-low-OFF - [ID 0032][Parent 002F] If Control '8x kitchen / 8x C WHF low ON-OFF' is switched Off Then Set Scene 'Misc / 8x KPL C Status' Off Set Scene 'Misc / 8x KPL E Status' Off Set 'Whole House Fan - low' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- C wholehousefan-low-ON - [ID 0030][Parent 002F] If Control '8x kitchen / 8x C WHF low ON-OFF' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Misc / 8x KPL E Status' Off Set 'Whole House Fan - low' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E wholehousefan-low-20min - [ID 002D][Parent 002F] If Control '8x kitchen / 8x E WHF low timer' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Misc / 8x KPL C Status' Off Set 'Whole House Fan - low' On Wait 20 minutes Set 'Whole House Fan - low' Off Set Scene 'Misc / 8x KPL E Status' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The programs turn the fan on and off just fine. What's not yet working is that the LED lights switch correspondingly, when I use the 'other button'. (The KLP are in toggle mode.) What am I missing?

Another update, in case someone runs into the same or similar situation: Fan and controller is now installed and everything seems to be working fine. The fan motor is an ECM. Therefore I had to modify the wiring a bit compared to the wiring diagram. This motor (for a Quietcool ES-4700) needs: green => ground white => common black => permanent line (120 AC) red => low speed (120V AC) blue => high speed (120 AC) The (2) relays / EZFlora control red and blue. Hope someone finds this helpful.

Ahhh! Thanks fitz! How ingenious! I created a Scene, added the button as the only device and as a responder. Afterwards I added that Scene in my program to be turned off after the timer is done. ....a bit cumbersome, but it seems to work. Excellent!!

Here is what I like to do with an 8 key KLP: Pressing Key B triggers a program that sets a responder ON for 10 minutes, then sets it to OFF again. I got that far... Where I need help is to get the Key LED to be on or off, depending on whether the program is still running, i.e. when the key is pressed, its LED should go on. Once the timer is done, the key LED should turn off again. Is there maybe a tutorial you could point me to? Thanks!

Another FYI, if you have the EZFlora time out running, sending the ON command again seems to reset the timer and you get the full time out period again w/o interruption. Example: timer out is set to 1 minute and running. If you send ON after 30 sec, the module will switch off after 90 sec. It does not compound timer periods, e.g. if you send ON 3 times within 15 seconds, you only get 75 seconds (with a 1 minute timer).

FYI, for giggles I tried a 9V DC power supply. It seems to be working fine.

I got it!! I found the EZFlora, as well as a 24V AC power supply...wired all up.....and it's working. I have discrete on/offs per 'zone', SPDT function is working and I can select individual timeouts long* enough for my needs. *at for least several hours. (I actually like this momentary mode better than the latching mode. This will prevent the fan from running indefinitely, in case I started it not in a timed program and forgot.) Again, thanks everybody for all your help!

Thanks much! Time for some testing (again, once I can locate my EZFlora....

I am not quite clear; would I use the I/O Linc's N/C and N/O to power relay 1 and relay 2 respectively? If so, one relay would always be powered and I would need another on/off switch to control the entire setup, correct? It sounds that a control via an EZFlora would be simpler. (I only need to find that darn thing in the basement....)

Documentation says "Controller requires a 24VAC Transformer / Power Supply (sold separately) to power the sprinkler solenoid valves." However, I do not need to drive sprinklers, only the relays. Can I break anything if I hook up a 12V DC power supply?

Thanks for checking, Stu. No worries that it does not work as thought. I really appreciate your (and everyone else's) help. I would have never gotten that far without you guys...and I am confident that we will get it eventually working. I/O Linc? Interesting.... So I have bought (2) of these Ribu relays for my project. From the label it seems that they need 10-30V coil input. Looking at the specs of the I/O linc (2450), It says: I/O Terminals:5V (10mA), ... but also Output Relay Capacity: 5A @ 30 Volts (AC or DC) I am not quite clear, if the (2) relays would work with an I/O Linc and e.g. 12V DC power supply. Follow up question is how would I need to wire this up? As an aside, I have a spare Smartenit EZFlora sprinkler controller. Would I be able to use this in lieu of an I/O Linc?

Oh, it does time out. I have tested it with a meter and with the connected relays. They have a control LED, in addition to the relay click sound they make.)

They initially suggested that. But after some testing came back they said, it's the way their set up also behaved. I am still puzzled though. That's why I asked here if anyone has such module actually working in latching mode. I am at the point, where I just might order another one to test.

When you say buttons, do you mean buttons e.g. of a dimmer keypad? If so, not yet. However, I have tried the 'build in' buttons of the module, in addition to the ISY.

The indications are that the module is in latching mode (option for momentary not checked (screenshot post #36) and triple beep), but the module behaves like it is in momentary/time out mode. That's what's so confusing to me.

Not sure I understand your comment. Can you please elaborate? The issue with the module that it does not latch at all, despite having set the option to "latching" and getting the triple confirmation beep.

Has anyone here such module and if so, is it behaving as we think it should?

I believe the module is already in latching mode, based on the # of beeps (triple beep). Tech Support put me on hold several times. When he came back he said they had just tried it on an ISY and had seen the same behavior as on mine. Not sure, where I should go from there.

So I spent the better part of an hour on the phone with Insteon Tech Support. In short, my module works as designed, i..e Lx gets turned off after set time, while the state remains. Sending the same command repeatedly does not changes that behavior. I am trying to figure out what the max. timeout is. Maybe it's some 30 minutes or so (they could not tell me); I could work with that. Seems like ISY does not accept a discrete entry of the time and I have to use the up/down arrows for that.... (edit: seems like it's 2 minutes - not long enough for my needs - rats!) A rather disappointing outcome.... BTW, they recommended using 2 on/off modules or any other 2 on/off switches, controlled by an ISY program to prevent simultaneously activation - oh well....

I performed another factory reset per manual - still no joy! I checked the operation mode per manual, directly on the module: from the # of beeps, it's in Latching Mode (triple beep). It just does not behave that way. Just wondering: the module presents itself in the ISY GUI like a (lamp) switch: on / fast on / off / fast off, i.e. only 2 discrete states: on and off. However, I would have expected 3 states and ways to invoke them: all off, L1 on, L2 on. What can I try next?

exactly those 2 or 5 or 8 seconds. So the time setting works. What does not work is the latching mode. The settings (checked/unchecked) in the options menu (momentary, dual line, etc.) stick, but they do not seem to make a difference. In addition, the comments in red font don't change when changing the settings. Something is broken..

I can set how long* Lx should stay powered on in the Momentary Mode Timeout, but not that it stays on permanently. * in 0.1 seconds