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Following the instructions in the manual, I tried to change settings to latching mode on the module itself with the tab switches - no joy. Then I tried the same method for a factory reset - still not joy. Interestingly, when I press the buttons, the module's "Current State" in the ISY switches status and stays either On or Off. However, the module itself no longer powers Lx after the timeout. How do I get Lx to stay powered on?

Some progress: I made the module a responder to an 8 button dimmer. The assigned button is in toggle mode. Now, by pushing the button, I get the module to switch between L1 and L2. However, the module still reverts back to off after some 10 sec., if I stop toggling. Also how can I discretely turn on either L1 or L2?

Tried - it does not make a difference in the module's response. Any other thoughts?

Looks like I need more hand holding... I wired up the module and relays, as well as registered the module with my ISY. I can power on L1 and L2 on by using the On/FastOn or Off/FastOff commands in the ISY. However, it only works by alternating L1 and L2. Also the module only powers Lx for about 10 sec, then shuts off again. I played with the module's options, but they do not seem to make any difference (see screenshot). These options seem to be for the 2 sensor wires anyway, which I am not using. I am looking for a way to: 1. turn L1 discretely on/off 2. run L1 for x minutes, then turn off (and the same set up for L2) What am I missing?

Thanks much, Stu! I greatly appreciate all the help to have provided to me.

So I tried to piece it all together and would appreciate a quick sanity check, please.

Excellent, Stu! I think I got it. Can't wait to receive the parts to put everything together.

Thanks Stu. Order for module and relays on Amazon placed! I should get them on Sunday. Thanks, Prime membership Stu, I will try to convert your instructions into a sketch and upload it here for proofreading. It may take me a day or so.

Thanks much, guys, this is very helpful. Please keep it coming and bear with me. As to mwester's question about my comfort level. I am very comfortable wiring it all together and/or putting it all in boxes. Where I would need help with is in a.) identifying the components and b.) how to connect them, e.g. "connect red wire of module with blue wire of relay" (As a data point, I have successfully replaced the caps on my PLM already twice, following very closely the instructions in a thread I found here or in the insteon forum. I have also added a sub panel and additional circuits in my home all by myself - the home still stands.) So a.) is accomplished, I believe: I need a Open/Close Module and (2) RIBU1C b.): here are the wiring diagrams for Open/Close Module and for the RIBU1C, Which wires do I need to connect for High power, respectively for Low power? (yep, I know it's embarrassing that it's that basic of a question...)

One relay for the high power line should do the trick. Low power could be run straight from the module (only needs 0.5A). I only would need to make sure it is wired up correctly.... Which still brings me back to my earlier comment regarding fabricating such contraption. Any change you could provide a link to a suitable relay and some brief description on how to wire it in?

Thanks Stu; I am a bit confused about the various module types. Micro Open/Close (L1/L2) 2444-222 for loads up to: 8A resistive, 2.5A motor => this would not be enough for my case, as I need at least around 5A in high mode. Micro On/Off (L1/L1) 2443-222 3600W/ 240VAC Resistive 700W/240VAC Inductive/Capacitive 2000W/240VAC Bulbs/Low Voltage Halogen => I believe this would be sufficient, but from what I understand it can only control 1 load; but I need 2 (one for high, one for low)

The electrical ratings of the fan (i.e., amperage at each speed) are according to the specs: "High 551 Watts / Low 64 Watts". It runs on 120V60Hz.

Stu; your argument to use a SPDT makes a lot of sense to me. From what I understand an Insteon Open/Close Micro Module would not be able to handle the load for such fan, so I believe I would need to enlist the help of relays. While I think I could assemble and wire such contraption by following a build plan, I am clearly lacking the knowledge to design something from scratch that would reliably work. Are there any build plans / threads I could follow along or are there any devices already readily available? I would appreciate any pointers. TIA!

Thank you Paul. Using 2 separate switchable insteon devices, in combination with programs/scenes seems like a good straight forward solution to me.

I like to control a 2 stage whole house fan (QuietCool QC ES-4700) via my ISY-Insteon system. The fan has two load lines, 1 for low speed and 1 for high speed. In my search I came across this thread: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/13628-micro-openclose-module-for-whole-house-fan/ It sounds like jshank wanted to do exactly what I have in mind. I would have posted in the thread, but it has been closed/archived. I was wondering if anyone had found a solution to his problem and could share it with me. BTW, I called QuiteCool Tech Support for some insights. Unfortunately, they could not offer any HA solution, but advised that the fan motor could not be controlled by a dimmer (which is what I had figured). Thanks!

Yep, I had read about it and made sure I did a factory reset first. Thanks!

A big thank you to all of you! Lots of great information. With that, I think I am making some progress. It seems that setting up a MS requires extra patience, with having to wait several minutes for setting changes to fully register and the device 'settles down'. Patience grasshopper, patience..... Is my understanding correct that if Dusk.Dawn is Off, the Sensor can not be triggered?

Thanks again, LeeG!

Thanks LeeG, this was helpful! So in other words, when I am done programming, I do not want to see any 1011 icons in the menu, only "cherries"

Newbie warning - please bear with me. I am trying to set up a motion sensor (2842-222) to control an LED light (2672-222). My goal is: if the motion sensor is triggered, it should turn on the LED, which then should stay on for 30 sec. if during this period a new motion is sensed, the 30 sec "on" timer would be restarted above should only happen if the environment is dark enough Therefore I created a scene with the LED as responder to the sensor being the controller, with the understanding that no elaborate programming of the ISY is needed, as I can use the MS's options to set the parameters. I got as far as that 1. and 2. work, but I am struggling with 3. I tried to follow the documentation, in particular the settings under Options 2 "As of ISY firmware 2.8.3+ more options are available". My ISY is on v4.2.30 and the menu for the options looks different - see attached. I am confused what "Night only mode" checked or unchecked now means. I tried both ways, in addition to adjusting the Darkness Sensitivity, but I am not getting the desired results. => What are the proper settings for my case? In addition to above, I could also use some help with: A. the "low battery sensing": the Current State in the Administrative Console stays blank => how can I retrieve the state? B. when I click the Query command in the MS's options menu, I get random "Failed Communicating with" errors with this sensor, as well as with a second SM that is in my setup. Both sensors seem to be working fine otherwise. They are within close proximity of other Insteon devices. I found some posts regarding this behavior but no clear answer on how to proceed. Thanks!

I searched through the forum and wiki, but have not been able to get a complete answer to my question. Basically, I am looking for a legend for the various icons that are used in the tree menu. I think I can figure out most of them, but it would be nice to get confirmation. What I am not clear about is what these "cherries" mean, e.g. shown for the first motion sensor.

I will check it out. Thanks, Michel!

Appreciate you prompt reply, Michel. I am still not quite clear how to understand that the ISY displays the external IP address. What happens if the external address changes? Would I need to re-enable the Internet access in the ISY settings? Maybe when the ISY About window is opened, the ISY (only) polls the current external IP address and displays it, i.e. it would then show a changed IP address? Or....?

I have a Dynamic DNS service (dyndns) set up in my router (Netgear 3700 with OpenWrt) and Internet Access enabled in my ISY994i. The ISY has created an entry in the router's UPnP screen, showing its internal IP adress and secure port. In the ISY's About I see under Internet Access my current external IP address: https://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xxxxx/, rather than the dyndns host name. That said, where in the ISY would I have to enter this info? Overall it has been working fine. On the other hand, my IP address has not changed in quite a while. I am wondering if I am missing something. Could someone please enlighten me? Thanks!

I personally prefer Control over Status since I think about these programs in an event-based way. However, I was mostly doing it because you mentioned scenes. Since the scenes may have many responders and at different levels, it's hard to say what "scene" is on. Using programs like I showed on the controllers, you can tell what scene is really on. If you just query the status of a light, is it "On" because Scene A is turned on or because Scene B is turned on? Got it - thanks much!