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Documentation says "Controller requires a 24VAC Transformer / Power Supply (sold separately) to power the sprinkler solenoid valves." However, I do not need to drive sprinklers, only the relays. Can I break anything if I hook up a 12V DC power supply?

Thanks for checking, Stu. No worries that it does not work as thought. I really appreciate your (and everyone else's) help. I would have never gotten that far without you guys...and I am confident that we will get it eventually working. I/O Linc? Interesting.... So I have bought (2) of these Ribu relays for my project. From the label it seems that they need 10-30V coil input. Looking at the specs of the I/O linc (2450), It says: I/O Terminals:5V (10mA), ... but also Output Relay Capacity: 5A @ 30 Volts (AC or DC) I am not quite clear, if the (2) relays would work with an I/O Linc and e.g. 12V DC power supply. Follow up question is how would I need to wire this up? As an aside, I have a spare Smartenit EZFlora sprinkler controller. Would I be able to use this in lieu of an I/O Linc?

Oh, it does time out. I have tested it with a meter and with the connected relays. They have a control LED, in addition to the relay click sound they make.)

They initially suggested that. But after some testing came back they said, it's the way their set up also behaved. I am still puzzled though. That's why I asked here if anyone has such module actually working in latching mode. I am at the point, where I just might order another one to test.

When you say buttons, do you mean buttons e.g. of a dimmer keypad? If so, not yet. However, I have tried the 'build in' buttons of the module, in addition to the ISY.

The indications are that the module is in latching mode (option for momentary not checked (screenshot post #36) and triple beep), but the module behaves like it is in momentary/time out mode. That's what's so confusing to me.

Not sure I understand your comment. Can you please elaborate? The issue with the module that it does not latch at all, despite having set the option to "latching" and getting the triple confirmation beep.

Has anyone here such module and if so, is it behaving as we think it should?

I believe the module is already in latching mode, based on the # of beeps (triple beep). Tech Support put me on hold several times. When he came back he said they had just tried it on an ISY and had seen the same behavior as on mine. Not sure, where I should go from there.

So I spent the better part of an hour on the phone with Insteon Tech Support. In short, my module works as designed, i..e Lx gets turned off after set time, while the state remains. Sending the same command repeatedly does not changes that behavior. I am trying to figure out what the max. timeout is. Maybe it's some 30 minutes or so (they could not tell me); I could work with that. Seems like ISY does not accept a discrete entry of the time and I have to use the up/down arrows for that.... (edit: seems like it's 2 minutes - not long enough for my needs - rats!) A rather disappointing outcome.... BTW, they recommended using 2 on/off modules or any other 2 on/off switches, controlled by an ISY program to prevent simultaneously activation - oh well....

I performed another factory reset per manual - still no joy! I checked the operation mode per manual, directly on the module: from the # of beeps, it's in Latching Mode (triple beep). It just does not behave that way. Just wondering: the module presents itself in the ISY GUI like a (lamp) switch: on / fast on / off / fast off, i.e. only 2 discrete states: on and off. However, I would have expected 3 states and ways to invoke them: all off, L1 on, L2 on. What can I try next?

exactly those 2 or 5 or 8 seconds. So the time setting works. What does not work is the latching mode. The settings (checked/unchecked) in the options menu (momentary, dual line, etc.) stick, but they do not seem to make a difference. In addition, the comments in red font don't change when changing the settings. Something is broken..

I can set how long* Lx should stay powered on in the Momentary Mode Timeout, but not that it stays on permanently. * in 0.1 seconds

Following the instructions in the manual, I tried to change settings to latching mode on the module itself with the tab switches - no joy. Then I tried the same method for a factory reset - still not joy. Interestingly, when I press the buttons, the module's "Current State" in the ISY switches status and stays either On or Off. However, the module itself no longer powers Lx after the timeout. How do I get Lx to stay powered on?

Some progress: I made the module a responder to an 8 button dimmer. The assigned button is in toggle mode. Now, by pushing the button, I get the module to switch between L1 and L2. However, the module still reverts back to off after some 10 sec., if I stop toggling. Also how can I discretely turn on either L1 or L2?

Tried - it does not make a difference in the module's response. Any other thoughts?

Looks like I need more hand holding... I wired up the module and relays, as well as registered the module with my ISY. I can power on L1 and L2 on by using the On/FastOn or Off/FastOff commands in the ISY. However, it only works by alternating L1 and L2. Also the module only powers Lx for about 10 sec, then shuts off again. I played with the module's options, but they do not seem to make any difference (see screenshot). These options seem to be for the 2 sensor wires anyway, which I am not using. I am looking for a way to: 1. turn L1 discretely on/off 2. run L1 for x minutes, then turn off (and the same set up for L2) What am I missing?

Thanks much, Stu! I greatly appreciate all the help to have provided to me.

So I tried to piece it all together and would appreciate a quick sanity check, please.

Excellent, Stu! I think I got it. Can't wait to receive the parts to put everything together.

Thanks Stu. Order for module and relays on Amazon placed! I should get them on Sunday. Thanks, Prime membership Stu, I will try to convert your instructions into a sketch and upload it here for proofreading. It may take me a day or so.

Thanks much, guys, this is very helpful. Please keep it coming and bear with me. As to mwester's question about my comfort level. I am very comfortable wiring it all together and/or putting it all in boxes. Where I would need help with is in a.) identifying the components and b.) how to connect them, e.g. "connect red wire of module with blue wire of relay" (As a data point, I have successfully replaced the caps on my PLM already twice, following very closely the instructions in a thread I found here or in the insteon forum. I have also added a sub panel and additional circuits in my home all by myself - the home still stands.) So a.) is accomplished, I believe: I need a Open/Close Module and (2) RIBU1C b.): here are the wiring diagrams for Open/Close Module and for the RIBU1C, Which wires do I need to connect for High power, respectively for Low power? (yep, I know it's embarrassing that it's that basic of a question...)

One relay for the high power line should do the trick. Low power could be run straight from the module (only needs 0.5A). I only would need to make sure it is wired up correctly.... Which still brings me back to my earlier comment regarding fabricating such contraption. Any change you could provide a link to a suitable relay and some brief description on how to wire it in?

Thanks Stu; I am a bit confused about the various module types. Micro Open/Close (L1/L2) 2444-222 for loads up to: 8A resistive, 2.5A motor => this would not be enough for my case, as I need at least around 5A in high mode. Micro On/Off (L1/L1) 2443-222 3600W/ 240VAC Resistive 700W/240VAC Inductive/Capacitive 2000W/240VAC Bulbs/Low Voltage Halogen => I believe this would be sufficient, but from what I understand it can only control 1 load; but I need 2 (one for high, one for low)

The electrical ratings of the fan (i.e., amperage at each speed) are according to the specs: "High 551 Watts / Low 64 Watts". It runs on 120V60Hz.