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If the thing hub can take url requests and respond back with rest, you can rig up a bi-directional communications method. Your exact issue is why I am pretty much all insteon. My non insteon I am passing through a raspberry Pi, which subscribes to the ISY and watches for variable changes and can make rest calls to change variables on the ISY for it to respond. There are enhancements coming on the ISY for 2 way Ip based communications someday. Alan

what would the output in voltage be of the microphone system? e..g would it, could it be enough to trigger an iolinc?

If you have some computer running 24/7 in the house, and a lot of us are moving to a raspberry pi or other very, very low electricity cost devices, then you probably can make it serve as a middleman to your ISY and post values into variables. I ASSUME, and we all know what that does, that you could post your data from the local weather station into the same variables the modules use, but Michel would have to confirm that. Alan

Ah, I see, they call it insteon because their houselinc and hub software can control it, but in reality it has not insteon connection in the sense it is a node in the insteon device family. Might as well be called HUB Camera our Houselinc Camera. Now just as their software supports it, you can make a java app that would talk with the ISY (like the admin console does now) and support the camera if they give you enough details to control it directly. Someday will make the camera plunge, will wait for Mobilinc to support it on android, and 1080P cameras in the $200 range instead of the $400 range. I would sure like to be able to tell WHO was prowling the car, not just that they were in a black hoodie and you cannot make out their face in 40 pixels or less. Alan

What insteon IP camera have you found? To my knowledge there are no "insteon" cameras. There are a few that can be "controlled" with network resources, and a few that can issue a rest command to the ISY to tell it there was motion. If you are on Apple devices, the version of Mobilinc there has some native camera support, but it does NOT go through the ISY. you can make your own webpages that show the camera functions and allow you to interact with insteon devices should you click on them. Alan

Just an update that this has been running several weeks and works great. As long as I remember to push the correct buttons on the remote my lights dim and go up. I changed the order of a couple of the irsend scripts this morning on the pi, and I need to yet figure out when to have the isy update the movie kpl button is someone does not use it but turns on the equipment by the remote. Should buy a syncrolinc next time insteon is 20% off and use that to tell if the stereo or tv are on. Someday I will make the perl utility that I use from Jeffrey to self restart, but I also need to put something into the code that watches for the heartbeat and times out if it's missing and try to reconnect after a period of time. Alan

Michel, what's the format for the programs in the zip file? Could a little utility be written up to make them pretty?

MWareman, would you mind sharing your task/event on how you have that set up? I've struggled a bit with tasker, it's not terribly intuitive to me to set things like this up.

I do not think Houselinc will talk to the global catch at all. Very limited software in a lot of ways.

http://192.168.1.100>DON http://192.168.1.100> I forgot the check the xbox while I had it on, suppose it's trying some UPNP related stuff to discover it as a media device or something like that?

No one was up trying to access the ISY from that .50 (which I think is my xbox) what am I seeing occur here for hours and hours and hours. My error log is thousands of lines long.. 70001 [Auth] 192.168.1.50:52479->80, Num=6 Thu 2013/07/25 09:07:28 PM System -10108 Check log Thu 2013/07/25 09:22:28 PM System -170001 [Auth] 192.168.1.50:52533->80, Num=7 Thu 2013/07/25 09:22:28 PM System -10108 Check log Thu 2013/07/25 09:22:28 PM System -170001 [Auth] 192.168.1.50:52533->80, Num=8 Thu 2013/07/25 09:22:28 PM System -10108 Check log Thu 2013/07/25 09:37:28 PM System -170001 [Auth] 192.168.1.50:52536->80, Num=9 Thu 2013/07/25 09:37:28 PM System -10108 Check log Thu 2013/07/25 09:37:28 PM System -170001 [Auth] 192.168.1.50:52536->80, Num=10 Thu 2013/07/25 09:37:28 PM System -10108 Check log Thu 2013/07/25 09:52:28 PM System -170001 [Auth] 192.168.1.50:52595->80, Num=11 Thu 2013/07/25 09:52:28 PM System -10108 Check log Thu 2013/07/25 09:52:28 PM System -170001 [Auth] 192.168.1.50:52595->80, Num=12 Thu 2013/07/25 09:52:28 PM System -10108 Check log Thu 2013/07/25 10:07:27 PM System -170001 [Auth] 192.168.1.50:52616->80, Num=13 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If you had an old droid laying around, I think you could use tasker with the motion sensor in the phone itself. I saw a shake setting in there as a trigger if I recall. There are a lot of threads, depending on what router you use, or wireless access point, that talk about presence monitoring if your phones are connected to your router via the wifi too. Not totally solved this issue yet either, but leaning towards an inverter and a micro module right now, or some other dualband insteon device I could query. I like the micro module because I think I can wire it to send a signal when the car starts or stops too, which could trigger a query timer to see if the car is no longer in range. Also it's very small, and might be possible to pull the guys out of the whole mess, hard wire it, and put it in a new box. Alan

Maybe with the new variable extensions coming you might be able to simplify things, the boolean operations coming might help as well. I'm thinking in my head, and that could just be a whole mess, that you may be able to do something with the remainders and mod type math to make the programs smaller and simpler. I think there are interesting math functions you can do with and and or Assign $x = a Add $x += a Subract $x -= a Multiply $x *= a Divide $x /= a Remainder $x %= a And (binary) $x &= a Or (binary) $x |= a Xor (binary) $x ^= a

Could you go into the admin console, tools, trend (chart) and chose that leak sensor and see what it has for activity? Don't know if that will work, but might tell you if the heartbeat is being received at least.

The Ecobee also requires routing through the cloud service for their API. Thusfar, they have not opened direct access to it in their API. Predominately I think that is to simplify their life for their mobile device apps. Otherwise technical support has to deal with opening router port forwarding on hundreds if not thousands of different modem/router/router combinations out there. don't know if a man in the middle is possible for a lot of these devices, never learned enough about encryption and such to know. Alan

I have been watching the http://www.wirelesstag.net/ for the moisture sensors to come back into stock, and after a month I decided to call them up and ask. For the record an improved version will arrive in September with a longer range radio and some improvements in the battery mounting as they were finding it separating over time. I asked specifically and for several minutes, about the tag manager working WITHOUT talking to their servers. Apparently it will not, they have one client where they made a server for the clients own location, reprogrammed the stuff specifically for them and the client runs it totally internally. However, it's a windows blade server and quite expensive to do that service. They were concerned with people being able to steal their software that talks with the tags and went the locked down server route. I expressed our concerns, as hobbyists, that they could just go away and the devices could become worthless. E.g. someone sues them into oblivion. No real meaningful conversation ensued from that line of questioning. SO those of you that have these gateway devices, what have you found in playing with them? They have some sort of internal memory for up to 70 tag updates that are in quede for the cloud server, don't know if the rest interface is on the tag manager or the cloud, he didn't understand that question. If on the tag manager, then the question becomes does it still update when it gets full? I may still go with their tags for the moisture sensor function alone. Be nice to bury a few of them in the yard for the sprinkler zones..

Nothing by brand comes to mind, but a call the a commercial electrical distribution company, like Consolidated Electrical Distributors, might ferret up something. I suspect some manufacturing companies would need something like this for their robotics or big welders. I have worked at several places that the company would brown out when a welder was fired up!

Could you not compare a variable to the set point? When you query the set point, how do you do that?

With no access to a 3D printer, have you considered selling "the service" of printing them and mailing them out? And I might like to try some crazy combinations of buttons.. Like 4 up top and 2 wide on the bottom. Thanks Alan

So is the issue that you cannot get the value from the tstat and put that into a variable? Or that you cannot set the tstat from the variable? (which is what i think as setting devices from variables is not out yet) So, could a program compare a variable you have to a tstat temperature query? Then you could make a program that loops up from a smaller or higher value, decreasing one (variable) or the other (tstat set point) until they match, correct? Just thinking outside the box a bit. Alan

I thought maybe simplehomenet had a solution but their plm says:

I recently had issues with using the LAN dns vs going out to google 8.8.8.8. There were massive DNS failures in the logs with mobilinc and the lan DNS. After the change there have been no more dns failures. Might be something to check into a few times on the error log in the next few days. Alan

I got a single vtext message yesterday, and not getting any after that. I have put a trigger linc on the basement door, which should send a bevvy of text messages. I moved the triggerlinc last night and I think I inadvertantly factory reset it by holding down the set button too long with the sensor . Watch the program last run time which sends the notification. If you see a last completed and no text message comes, check the error log and see if anything is there. Now off to find my phone and check that myself to find out what is up, the kids leave the basement door closed which blocks a fan, which brings the COLD basement air upstairs. 58 in the basement, 72 upstairs! Alan

Sounds like you need the network module for your ISY, it can do exactly those functions if your web server is set up to execute scripts on the call of a certain page or url. Alan

That would be a rub, you might want the cloud aspect until they go away, and then because you cannot upgrade it yourself, you cannot make the cloud go away since they went away, ironic. Anyone pop one apart to see if it's a socketed eeprom and they just swap it out, or do they have special cables/software to talk to it that we would not have. Really torn on this one, like the tag idea for a few things I loose, don't like the cloud for anything besides my keys off household premise. Get rid of the cloud and you cannot ping your keys out in the wild, but I suppose without the tag manager being in range that is a completely moot point now that I think about it. I also like the idea of a micro module and an inverter since it's totally under ISY control and does not introduce more wall-warts into the house, another layer of non insteon hardware is not necessary with that plan. The cost is higher. I also have thought about a rfid tag in the bumper and a receiver on the garage track or someplace close to the car, potentially very inexpensive, and probably very high on the reliability angle. The old droid phone with tasker, wifi tracking, etc could be a viable option too and nearly without cost.