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Have you thought about smart bulbs? While the initial expense may be higher, you would be able to achieve what you want in regards to dimming and color temperature. Smartbulbs would allow you to create scenes that automatically changes the color temp for the day and time the way you would like it to be. You can even set them to turn themselves off should someone not turn them off at the switch. If you have an ISY on site, this can be controlled via that or whatever bulbs you choose app

I use the same ones too

Great- Kickin Crab it is. ?

When you're talking about 8 bulbs its going to be much brighter than you anticipate....especially with LEDs. as a test, Id unscrew 6 to see how bright they are as that will let you know if you have unrealistic expectations for what you are trying to achieve. Its the same thing in my bathroom. The recessed lights in the general bath area are the exact same as the 1 over the shower. The bathroom (shower area) is much darker dimming the shower light down vs the same level I can achieve when dimming the other lights. I can swap out every other bulb with the shower and get the same results

LEDs are not incandescent bulbs. The mechanisms they use to work is completely different which is why you have different results. Incandcents use a filament which warms up which is why you have more control over how low they go when turn on and off. Led bulbs are electronically driven. They require a certain amount of energy to power them on which is why they have a hard time turning on at extremely low settings. Electronically controlled bulbs such as lifx and hue can turn on lower than standard LEDs due to how they work but even then, the output is not nearly as good as it is with incandescent bulbs. I have found, when the isy is the one turning on the light, I can have them turn on lower than i can do when holding the switch on. With that said, that's not a problem for me since I use presets and the Isy when turning on the lights vs physically pressing and holding a switch

I've done over 100 homes with insteon and warm glow bulbs and haven't had a single experience that you've had. While electronic dimmable bulbs can go lower and turn on lower than standard LEDs, most of the light is unusable below a certain point anyway. In fact, I've attached a few photos to show how low it can go with zero flickering. The brightest photo attached is @ 12%. At 1% you can barely tell that it's on.

Works for me. I think me and @Tekenwould subconsciously take those spots anyway. ?

??? You have to take the whole statement into context not just a single line

No one can lay anything out for you which is why these debates go on forever like they do. There are so many different products and protocols that there's something for everyone. It's best for you to look at the pros and cons of all systems, and see what works best for you and what you're trying to do as everyone's situation is different. It's like asking someone what's the best car to buy. A Ford person will say ford while a Chevy person will say Chevy. For me, my next system is shaping up to be Control 4. However, not many people can pay (or want to pay) what C4 costs. The other downside is that it requires a dealer to install and maintain (there's some things a user can do themselves). If you were to ask me what's next, I'd say C4, which probably doesn't fit what you want to accomplish.

Did you look on smarthome.com where they are sold? They are showing that all of their switches are in stock and have for at least the past month

You'd buy polisy. It can be found on Universal devices webpage in the store

The speed is probably based on the device processor itself since your Isy board is still 500 series.

In life nothing is free.... especially with automation. It really comes down to how much you're willing to pay. Whether it's apps, modules, upgrades, etc. someone else is doing the work for you and that's what you're paying for. In addition to what MrBill stated there are more things to think about. Cheap to free devices will always come with trade offs. While zwave has its own issues, you are paying for the convenience of being able to easily add to the isy. With sonoff, you have to flash the proper software to them and subsequent updates in the future. What zwave and other more expensive devices do for you, you do for yourself with sonoff.

Insteon is much easier to use than zwave but at this time it's nearly impossible to get everything you need from them to get up and running. They're out of plms for the foreseeable future which is needed and they no longer make thermostats. Did you try to Google how to factory reset your thermostat. Sometimes people will post videos or on other forums little tips like that for others.

I wouldn't blame the company for not talking to you. It's the person who sold you thermostats designed for dealers. Companies do not talk to end users to protect that network. It sucks that people will sell them to end users but many companies do this so be careful with your replacement devices. All devices will delete their key with a factory reset so that's not a problem. Most controllers recommend doing the remove process prior to adding a device (even for new devices) so that wouldn't be an issue regardless should you sell your devices. If the Isy is having problems removing your thermostats, it could be that your mesh is broken. Have you removed any devices used for your network?

You don't say what your firmware and UI are so I can only make assumptions based off the latest firmware. I've never seen the Isy give a list of devices when removing since zwave support first came out so I'm not sure how you got a list of zwave devices. Typically, you choose the remove device in the Isy, then go to your device and trigger it's inclusion process. This will remove the device from the Isy network. Should your controller go down, you would do the same with the new controller. Use the new controller to Remove and then add it back to it.

That's what happened to me as well. I used to have 2- 8 button kpls per room. Now it's a single 6 button in most areas and even that's too many buttons. Better programming and voice control has minimized the need for that stuff for me. My in wall kpls are my back up but i rarely use voice anyway since most things turn on, off, and dim on their own depending on different factors

I know. I was just commenting why it's not more popular. They used to be but sales have went down as more have turned to voice assistants

I think voice control has lessened the need for wireless remotes for many people.

I couldn't agree more. I can live without music and anything else internet connected. I need my lights to work

The system is not currently designed for Isy (or any other advanced system) users so you wouldn't see a need. There are plenty of people out there who doesn't need a full system in that manner. It's like buying a car. I don't go off roading so I don't understand why a person would get a Jeep or any true off road capable vehicle. But i understand that some people do so I get why people buy them.

The devices work with Alexa and Google home. Homekit coming sometime soon as well as the motion sensor. They'll work with Alexa like any other device (don't use Alexa for automation so I can't say how deep). It's a basic app for general use. Outside of timer offsets, it allows for device configuration and schedules

No it does not at this time. It's still in alpha testing in regards to running the admin console for insteon. Zwave testing is coming (700 series) but no word on when that will be at this time. You can follow the progress on the sub-forum below this one.

I do my hue (in addition to some other stuff) the way MrBill does his as well. The lights turn on and off just like they would if connected normally Uniformity matters a great deal to me in addition to presentation. There's no way I could live with toggle switches mixed with paddles- let alone tape over a switch. The Mrs. would definitely put an end to that as well. I try to avoid double taps for the most part. When I do use them, it's usually to trigger the opposite of something at any given time or for events with the same trigger but different users. For example, during the early evening in the bedroom, the lamps come on full brightness. A double tap will trigger their preset dim level. Later at night, they'll come on at their preset dim level and a double tap will trigger all the way on. For events, my wife can turn on her relax for the patio and it'll set the lighting and music to her tastes. If i go out, I'll double tap it and it'll do the same for me.

There is no cloud version of the hue NS. I use both the hue NS and network resources for mine