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As for any totally event triggered device, a few degrees of change must be encountered before any temperature updates will be sent. OTOH, humidity updates on a timed clock cycle. These devices should have engineered into them, an override default clock time that reports regardless. In my cold cellar I can go days with a temperature reading on ISY, and even longer for my basement, where the temperatures are controlled by a higher grade of thermostat. Use your hot breath or a hair dryer gently on the stat sensor until a few degrees of change are seen on the stat face. Then look again. If you are running v5.x you can grab the latest temperature chnage and store it into a variable and "init to" of the same variable. Now make programs that only use the variable copy. Upon power boot-up, when ISY doesn't know anything yet, the "init to" value will get copied into the variable and you will never know the difference.

I can see decimal implementation as a move toward supporting Celsius temperatures on thermostats but two decimals seems like overkill, for that purpose. One decimal place would seem acceptable even for people using foreignheat as a scale. Most people would not use a stat that only offers integer temperature units with Celsius as the graduations are to coarse for home heating control. Even half degrees are barely acceptable for human comfort. Old Honeywell stats, I have used, were reporting and settable to 0.2 degree resolution accuracy. The only reason I tolerate 0.5 on newer ones is to get the smart features. As soon as better resolution smart stats are made available and workable, I will be dumping the half degree units I have now. They will become coarse usage sensors only. Of course the answer is that people advance their upgrade to metric, or two resolution reporting system be in place, based on system selected. More coding needed there, though.

Thanks Benoit! "every" found it. I deleted it. I did many scans for it but always looking for the element name, not the spoken. Variable highlighting. understand now and it makes sense not to restrict them to one set of spokens. Thanks! The menu pulldown appears to based on bottom of the screen and the problem computer is a Win 7 Netbook with an odd 1024 x 600 (not 800) resolution. Works fine on a usual resolution screen. Also the problem is not a huge problem because the close at the bottom is still accessible for recovery each time. No lockup. Thanks! The device/scene/variable denotation was minor and I did see all were treated with the same text, later. "Element" could have done for all too. Thanks!

Scott has his Honeywell thermostats connected through his CAO Tag manager into ISY variables. That may be a low cost method to connect your stat into ISY too and then you can control the ApplianceLinc from there. Also people love the CAO Tags because they get temperature, humidity, motion, and now lights from each Tag for about $30. Accurate to 0.4C and they can be received for miles, literally. A double cookie tin or freezer wall doesn't not stop them.

I am glad I have a couple of spare Insteon MSes. I would not want to receive some fresh new SH design without any firmware upgrade facilities or offerings. It may be slated for the garbage, when you receive it, with their demonstrated history. Of course it probably be labelled v0.60 or something nonsensical, out of order. Make sure the return shipping is included for DOA. The shipping cost to return the defective product probably won't cover the item credit received. hmmm....maybe I should consider a Zwave board?

Sorry Benoit. It didn't fix it, for me. I can't get access to the entry to edit it or remove it. It seems the vocalbase index is out of synch with the entries file. I have tried refreshing the webpage, refreshing the vocalbase, and it still doesn't show up. Yet, the scene name is still highlighted in the pulldown device menu but refuses to be overwritten with "Device already exists" when I try to force it as a new entry. The scene name is "All Lights Upstairs (17374)" and has two spokens, which I cannot remember or see. The search can't find it either. UPDATE: I just did a download and the file shows the vocalbase entry messed up without a name entry. ,17374,scene,every light,every other light The display routine will not display an entry with a blank name, so I can't select the entry, to edit or remove it from the file. Other Portal bugs: Variables used are not highlighted in the pulldown menu list, as other categories are. Duplication displays "Device already has a spoken" instead of "Scene already has a spoken" Displaying 100 entries, when returning to the list screen, displays off the top of the webpage and it is not accessible or scrollable to access titles or items in that section. Thanks!

Thanks Benoit! Very fast response and highly appreciated. Sent from a tiny keyboard. Response may be brief.

It would be hard to detect no air flow in front of a fan. Sent from a tiny keyboard. Response may be brief.

I just discovered another bug in this scene quirk. They are added to you devices list in the Alexa app without using discovery. I forgot them both in the alexa app but nothing changed in the ISY Portal. They are still not listed in the vocalbase.

Sorry, I meant scene. I have never used a scene before and just did this to test the bug report. Now the one I have is not accessable, as soon as I added the second vocal.

I would mount a 2441TH with a connection to your 16-24vac furnace supply. Then hook a remote sensor to the 244TH and select the remote sensor. Shove the sensor into the war air plenum and voila. You have air feed temperature into your ISY. Now you can control whatebver you want with your ISY based on air temperature inside your furnace. You should also get humidity as a freebie.

After performing the second spoken add I cannot acces the device anymore to edit or delete it.It's caught in limbo, with no access to it, until a fix comes out.

If you think you will want smart control over the fan later and via ISY I would use an OnOffLinc and an IoLinc to hook to a dry contact off your furnace control. The alternative to that would be a 2441ZTH thermostat with remote sensor or even a CAO Tag to get data into your ISY. What will warm air sensing contacts do when you run the A/C and you need to reverse the contact logic and recalibrate it twice per year?

Please note I made some errors and fixed them last minute

For a very simple program to expand as you find quirks try this. Dryer Elk - [iD 001B][Parent 0010] If .....Elk Zone 'DRYER SENSOR' is Violated Then .....Set Scene 'Alarm Dryer Status' On Else .....Set Scene 'Alarm Dryer Status' Off .....Wait 5 minutes .....Set Elk Speak Phrase 'Miscellaneous 2 ' .....Send Notification to 'Marcin' content 'LAUNDRY - DRYING CYCLE COMPLETED' BTW: When your set an "init variable", it doesn't affect the RAMvariable copy unless your ISY does a reboot or power up. Then the init value is copied to the RAM copy of the variable. BTW2: When you use var += 1 you are incrementing the current value and the value can fool testing for logic statements. Best practice is to just use .....$var = 1 .....$var = 0 Then you can depend on the values. I defined a pair of Integer variable with their init values set to 1 and 0, called $cTrue and $cFalse respectively. Then I can use program lines like this. If ....$sDryer_sensor = $cTrue Then ,,,,

First. Your initial program contained a logic line that cannot perform any task ....And Control DRYER_IO_SENSOR is not switched On can only run the Else section with no programming in it and the Then section has no Wait in it to be interrupted. In your Elk monitoring you have a line ......$Dryer_Sensor += 1 that can cause results that are not handled by your last program. eg. $Dryer_Sensor could become 2 or 3 values. These two line seem to be trying to detect the same thing = dryer not running .....$Dryer_Sensor is not 1 ...And $Dryer_Sensor is 0 You could also combine your two programs into one program and avoid the usage of any variables. Only one should be required ....$Dryer_Sensor is not 0 What happens when you open your dryer door to check if the clothes are dry or add one more item? You wil get a notification. It can get complicated! I use a Dryer Running program that allows the dryer to run for 5 minutes before enabling a second program "Dryer Stopped" that detects the dryer has stopped. In the second program, I allow up to about 20 seconds for those contignuencies. Have fun!

Wow! I don't use scenes for Echo at all but decided to try it. Absolutely right and good catch! I added a scene with one spoken. Saved. No problem. Reloaded just fine and normal. Added a second spoken to the scene and saved....gone! Reloaded the spoken sub database...MIA. Attempted to use the scene name again, highlighted to indicate already in use. I attempted to add a spoken and save it....complained entry already exists. I dumped the portal page and reloaded it again...no luck and now it hangs the android chrome browser. I loaded portal again and switched over to Desktop site, to get the full webpage...same eefct, it hangs the device list off the screen top and will not recover. Tried the same thing with Win 7 IE11x32 and device not listed, but shown highlighted but webpage functions OK. ISY Portal bug!

My alexa app and portal app work just fine. No bug there and maybe some confusion in realaying the problem. Did you mean the discovered names in the alexa app? If so, go to the bottom of the discovered devices and click "Forget all" then discover again.

You're killing me! This is too funny! but too dangerous too. The standard kid practice to ask one parent and then after the "No" go to the next one. Now he has a third party to get a yes. LOL This should never be out there. Yeah, one of my Internet freaks sons will think it it the greatest thing but nothing should be ordered without confirmation. They do it for every other possible securuty hole now so.... What's wrong with Alexa sending an email to confirm the purchase of any items. A simple click on one link or the other to accept or reject the order. I can see comedy shows putting voices out there to cause every order enabled Echo in the world, to order a roll of toilet paper. Who's liability will that be? No worse than theives yelling at your windows with a megaphone to unock the doors!

I didn't know the UDI skill could report anything. This also sounds like you are using the old UDI skill that was going to be removed.

Nothing like trusting an app to tell the world all your passwords. But we paid good money to a reputable company, in business for years, that we can totally trust.

That's not the page the link takes me to. I get the portal and NR module pricing page and section. Your link works fine on two different browsers.

Links seems misplaced???

Well after years of getting familair with 6 character passwords they introduce forcing you to use some numeric characters. Next along comes, you need to use some uppercase characters. Now the latest addition to the ridiculous security scam (all your fault, right?) is the forced usage of punctuation. So now we end up with passwords that require mixed upper and lower case characters, numbers and punctuation. What does the same person do with 60-80 different passwords? Keep them in a booklet of email folder so that only one password crack is required to infiltrate somebody's whole life, in order to completely own them. Security is really improving! (sarcasm) What is really improving is the ability to put any blame for being hacked on the user. A few years back my bank cut off my card usage, forcing me to come into the branch to change my card password. Since this was the second or third time this happenned, I enquired why. I was told that I used the card with a known card hacker that was involved in password snooping. Looking at my account statements, (remember paper?) I had only used that same card in the last three months with the bank's machine, I was standing inside changing my password. Yeah, the SSL discovery days.

2441ZTH humidity updates on a real time cycle. About every 5 minutes on batteries and about every 60 seconds on adapter.