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I have five Hue bulbs Four originals and one Bloom. I am impressed with the interface but the colour rendering is horrific. The Bloom, OTOH is very nice with full colours. This factor alone with the Hue products not even putting out the same light colours is a PITA. As stated the interface is very well done but the power up at fill white brightness is just a step back into the 1980's following the X10 philosophy, attempting to compensate for users not having switch initiators to control them. I understand Insteon bulbs have got around this staring into 500 Watts worth of white light in the middle of a good night's sleep by offering a option to work either way. So far I have avoided any white smart bulbs except for the MiLight RBWW bulbs. I wanted the colours not the white bulbs or I would have gone and bought some cheaper white LED bulbs. ...and I don't control my bulbs and lighting with some app that I have to find my cell phone, log-in, boot the app and operate the bulb. So 1990s. Cool for the first 3 operations and then I grew up. This is about Home Automation, not operating lights by some weird remote control form of switch. When I do use a switch, it's a SwitchLinc dimmer and my ISY knows about all its types of commands and turns on the selected settings of light arrays. With a selection of about 15 variations for the room. Yes you can do a lot with 18 different bulbs under ISY control. When I double tap the SwitchLinc at the top or say "Alexa, turn on fill lights" you can feel the nuclear radiation warmth, coming from about 300 watts of white LED light. Thank Gawd for ISY, but for ISY to power up and turn off the glaring Hue bulbs, in the middle of the night, takes a good 5-10 minutes. Sure glad I don't sleep in that room! I may start to have nightmares I am in an operating room where something is being removed. WAF might be high there. Rant done!

I have learned by experience that the Internet is a powerful propaganda media. If I write a sentence in WikiPedia in an article, I find myself quoted in thousands of websites within days. I also find wikipedians attempting to quote the articles that are quoting my words, as gospel. Yeah the old cyclic reference where the originator was full of BS. I have seen whole word meaning changed and all traces of the real meaning of a word changed due to this phenomenum. Just post it on wikiPedia and the whole world changes it's thinking. scary stuff. When the medical examiners dig this poll up two years from now, it may show up as the law, who knows where?

Hubs? We don't need no stinkin' hubs! Yeah and they are so Insteon conscious there! (sarc)

Interesting that Home Assistant is winning the race as a "side controller". Could mean people weren't as happy with it as when they started, or could mean the misread the poll question. ISY counts are doing well there.

I was on that bus once and it bounced us around fairly badly, running over all those apples.

Last time I factory reset both my 2441ZTH stats, as I thought perhaps v5.0.4 may have fixed some parameters not being settable, I had to factory reset one about 8-9 times before it would link and update properly with ISY. The newer unit had to be factory reset twice before behaving. Each time different parameters wouldn't work. Of course ISY has no profile information (not listed as a device) for the 2441ZTH, only the 2441TH stat. Sure it reads the model and version from the stat and displays it but no controls work on one and only some do on the older version firmware.

Well, as you probably know, in Canada, the price is higher if you pay cash, than if you pay by credit or debit. For those that don't know, Canada has no penny coins anymore.

As silly as it sounds... I got caught a few times like that. You always have to hit the save after opening any NR for examination or editing, or the Test button doesn't work.

$179 US is the walk-in price at Best Buy stores. Best Buy is not known for cheaper prices either.

They have both listed under different questions. Probably a typo.

This sounds like you either have an inverter close to your PLM or ISY/PLM plugged into an inverter. It also sounds like you may a WiFi antenna very close to your PLM antenna. You don't need to wire your basement, (yet) just take the ISY and PLM upstairs away from that location to try it.

Did you ever figure out why the Test button wouldn't work? All my tests work with my Hue NRs. I wouldn't think programs would work if the test didn't????

I would just rip out the fluorescent ballast and mount a UL approved 12vdc power supply in it's place. Now can you do whatever you want with low voltage wiring and the high voltage wiring changes you made are all inside the metal fixture no different than wiring inside any other fixture.

True but whomever is doing it isn't really comparing anything, other than user's choices of HA system. Looks like a popularity contest. The reason I posted it here is, in that forum, things are very biased with so many participants selling and promoting their own products. The participants always get a biased view of the real world and ISY loses before the book cover can be opened.

Intermittent Insteon things are usually the comm signals have interference, not hardware.Try your ISY in a different location. Make sure you have your two phases of your electrical box bridged with a passive coupler or, Plug in a dual band Insteon device into each pahse of your distribution box. Try a dual band device between your PLM and the device giving problems.

I think one of the tricks with LED strips, and so many other gadgets, is you plug in a UL approved power supply and what you do with the 12vdc side is nobody else's business.

Glad I am not the only one!

At this point in time ISY seems to be second in popularity.

With the ISY994 you can interface almost any type of light into your HA system. I would install silicone sleeved IP68? RGBWW LED strips, with a 12v powers upply and controller and control it from Network resources or NodeLink, depending on controller and RPi availability and controller you use. Now you can light it up with white, bright, dim, Red, Green, Blue or any combination (some controllers can't mix white and RGB). LED strip 5m = $18 Controller = $16, Milight requires a Bridge/Hub = $12 Power supply $10 Connectors $1-3 Network Module = $49? YMMV

Yup. I used a dozen Network resources for 9 bulbs/strips and 2 hubs, for many months. Now io_guy has written a Nodelink Node for them that remebers what you last set them at. Either system you need a 12v 3-6A power supply, and a controller for each strip, but the MiLights also need a WiFi to priority 2.4GHz bridge/hub. The MiLight controllers are one way comms, only, so you can't interrogate them for status. They just obey what you send and with NodeLink, remembers what you set them at. There is a recent thread concerning a newer controller for the strips (around the $15-18 each) that should perform better, and you can mix white and RGB to make pastels or white temperatures. No hub is required being WiFi listening controllers. The technique to NR control these is still being discovered. Look for the recent posts in the thread. The major issues are working. Many of us have these newer controller on order to experiement with so expect more progress.

I believe the "push-in" connectors have disappeared and been replaced by the insert and tighten type connections. I had a house full of "push-ins" with aluminum wire that almost caused a few fires done by some "electrician" the builder hired. back in the 70s. My wfe burned the back of her hand on a receptacle, before we realised how the house was wired. I don't remember grounds ever having the push-in connections.

Link seems to come and disappear but here is the results so far: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdiu2EhOi4hb6gN4RQa-U6VA-SZ711Es1wseEkvcBqUI1r7eQ/viewanalytics?usp=form_confirm

My 2441ZTH displays every 0.5º C also but it doesn't send updates to ISY until about a 1.5º C change. I assume that equates to about the same as your 2.x degrees F.

If the results show many are using ISY, many more may follow. People often look for safety in numbers, when making purchases.

Ewwww. I would try to isolate your ISY from those noise makers on a different circuit, as a trial. You don't have the unit plugged into a UPS do you? They can produce the worst waveforms and burn out lots of devices. Just had another thought. Perhaps your ISY power supply is going bad and all your PLMs just look bad but really it has been the ISY PS. You should probably talk to UDI about this and let them help you get to the bottom of this. You have enough history for them to diagnose this and provide further trials to zero in on this.